50% loss of player base in 4 months

[Viking4s 10,791]

7 minutes ago, cosmic666 said:

Anyone in mind when you added to the list.  

12 is definitely me 

[Russty 368]

On 9/6/2020 at 9:20 PM, Joeguy said:

My hope is someone will buy them out and start to improve the game instead of this constant downgrading in the name of abject greed.  Offer a good product and the money will come

After everything that has happened, I think that this is the only way to save the game. The current developers won't save it and that's because they don't have the motivation to do so.

[rus0806 265]

You can get a rough idea on the decline in the playerbase by looking at the number of announcement views in the forum, it has been in decline for the past 4 or so years. In 2016 the average view per post is around 10k, but now its around 500 views. (Not counting those that were pinned for a long time) 

[Joeguy 941]

21 hours ago, kaisdf said:

To play devil's advocate - taking stats from May when we were mid quarantine, when many people were hopping into PC gaming to pass the time; hopping into TO for nostalgia in that free time; etc. is somewhat unfair, given that numbers may well have been artificially high then.

 

Now, as many countries are seeing restrictions lifted, those people have less time, and so the peak is lower.

OK, how about pre-Covid lockdowns...an even larger drop off. 

The real point is the bold faced fact that Tanki is hemorrhaging huge amounts of players due to the devs ridiculous implementations.  When you lose half or more of your player base in just a few months, you are doing something wrong.  This is a pretty obvious concept, but the devs don't seem to give a turkey-snordle (yeah, I just made up the word) and keep degrading the game further and further and further.

 

Note:  each day is at or above 20K, with Jan 4 being a peak for the week (I couldn't resist the dramatic effect )

 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Joeguy

[wolverine848 13,097]

11 minutes ago, krish123_super said:

maybe a big advertisement for this game is needed

New players won't stay if system does not improve. 

Once the novice reward ends the players will rank way too fast and not have a clue how to battle.  Like sheep vs wolves.

[cosmic666 1,055]

2 hours ago, Joeguy said:

OK, how about pre-Covid lockdowns...an even larger drop off. 

The real point is the bold faced fact that Tanki is hemorrhaging huge amounts of players due to the devs ridiculous implementations.  When you lose half or more of your player base in just a few months, you are doing something wrong.  This is a pretty obvious concept, but the devs don't seem to give a turkey-snordle (yeah, I just made up the word) and keep degrading the game further and further and further.

 

Note:  each day is at or above 20K, with Jan 4 being a peak for the week (I couldn't resist the dramatic effect )

 

And the self destruction is still ongoing when you go to garage. Mabey if they show a few you tubers doing there boring gold catches to the crappiest music ever heard, then that might fix the self destruct issue. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, krish123_super said:

no problem, as per my suggestion if tanki keep battles between players whose gear score are nearer nor thier ranks and experience but this may start a contrary about the presence of ranks and experience bar, this will become a big question, to tackle this we have to introduce a new idea a revolutionary idea to keep this game up, after all its our responsibility,wanna create a topic on this so developers will regard this revolution

Never gonna match by GS.  Defeats the purpose of buying and upgrading.

Rank-spreads need to tighten up and that will reduce the power gap - the extra mk splits are only useful if we don't battle players 7-8 ranks above us.

But my comment was with respect to the experience boost.  Ranking faster is not better for new players.  They need to learn the nuances of the game before progressing upwards to mid ranks.  And the lack of crystals is another negative.

[Dunsparce 36]

1 hour ago, cosmic666 said:

And the self destruction is still ongoing when you go to garage. Mabey if they show a few you tubers doing there boring gold catches to the crappiest music ever heard, then that might fix the self destruct issue. 

At this point, they might as well call the garage self destruct bug a "new feature" because they aren't fixing it any time soon by the looks of it. Is this a thing on flash because if not, it just proves even further that html5 is not that much better than flash despite being advertised as such lol 

18 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Never gonna match by GS.  Defeats the purpose of buying and upgrading.

Can you explain a bit more? I hate to see people with GS 3-7k going up against me, let alone people with a maxed out GS. Watching them die (over and over again) is no fun. Moreover, no amount of support is going to close that gap between them either (which is why i stopped playing with dictator). Essentially, in my opinion, not matching by GS turns the game away from team work and into a solo game. 

[cosmic666 1,055]

1 hour ago, Dunsparce said:

At this point, they might as well call the garage self destruct bug a "new feature" because they aren't fixing it any time soon by the looks of it. Is this a thing on flash because if not, it just proves even further that html5 is not that much better than flash despite being advertised as such lol 

Can you explain a bit more? I hate to see people with GS 3-7k going up against me, let alone people with a maxed out GS. Watching them die (over and over again) is no fun. Moreover, no amount of support is going to close that gap between them either (which is why i stopped playing with dictator). Essentially, in my opinion, not matching by GS turns the game away from team work and into a solo game. 

No self destruct on flash when u get killed and hit G to take you to garage to change protections...you enter battle just fine.on the respawn with no further kill against you.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, Dunsparce said:

Can you explain a bit more? I hate to see people with GS 3-7k going up against me, let alone people with a maxed out GS. Watching them die (over and over again) is no fun. Moreover, no amount of support is going to close that gap between them either (which is why i stopped playing with dictator). Essentially, in my opinion, not matching by GS turns the game away from team work and into a solo game. 

If you are a Legend the only way you are seeing GS ~ 3000 is 1) mults - Legends equipping low items on purpose or 2) extremely wide rank spreads in MM having you play against maybe a Colonel.  But even Colonels should have a higher GS than 3k.  They have mis-managed their crystals and will pay for that under those rare conditions.

Having MatchMaker use GS as a method of assigning players into battle will take away every incentive to upgrade your equipment. Why would a buyer spend $ to max out their gear for their rank only to find themselves matched up to higher-ranked players with same GS.  You are punishing players for spending $ and managing their crystals.  All the while some fool who totally squandered crystals on 8 different combos gets to play lower-ranked players who have fewer combos (and fewer modules) but have same GS.

As of NOW (after the m to mk "conversion") there are 7 splits on equipment ranks as opposed to 4, with each requiring a minimum player rank.  These splits will lower the power gap in battles IF MM actually works reasonably, and stops giving out the stupid rank-spreads of 8+.  Rank spreads of 3-4-5 will generate decent battles where one player does not have a ridiculously high GS compared to others.

[NumberSix 40]

16 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Having MatchMaker use GS as a method of assigning players into battle will take away every incentive to upgrade your equipment.

It would also be an unreliable measure. Everybody not completely mad would join MM battles on their weakest combo and then pull the maxed out Mk7 from their garage within the first few seconds.

And evven if you calculated a "fleet" GS for the overall garage, that calculation would be heavily tilted by unbalanced garages.

[alkyng 3,080]

if there's a will there's a will there's a way,

if they want to make this, they can make MM depending on your highest GS equipment, even if you not using them

though I'm not agree with the idea, because it will make the buying is useless, buyer when he payed he want to be an OP not to play with players with the same equipment

discussion about this is wrong, the correct discussion is to describe how is the buyers are OP (and that's the truth), not to discuss about to make them just play with players with the same GS.

[NumberSix 40]

The point is: you can have a great browser game, where free-to-play and pay-to-win co-exist.

But: you need to make the game attractive for both parties.

What we see here is that they want to make the game unattractive for non-buyers. That is a bad idea in the long run.

[Snafu 139]

On 9/9/2020 at 9:22 AM, kaisdf said:

To play devil's advocate - taking stats from May when we were mid quarantine, when many people were hopping into PC gaming to pass the time; hopping into TO for nostalgia in that free time; etc. is somewhat unfair, given that numbers may well have been artificially high then.

Well, how about this angle - at the time of quarantine when people had pretty much nothing to do but play tanki, the stats were about half what they used to be couple years ago at normal times.

[Snafu 139]

So Tanker's Day came and passed with online peak not exceeding 13k. Just putting it here for the record 

Edited September 13, 2020 by Snafu

[NumberSix 40]

On 9/10/2020 at 3:25 PM, Joeguy said:

the devs don't seem to give a turkey-snordle (yeah, I just made up the word) and keep degrading the game further and further and further.

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 The expression you are looking for seems to be "a gruffing turkey-snordle", I suppose  

Edited September 14, 2020 by NumberSix

[Joeguy 941]

6 hours ago, NumberSix said:

 The expression you are looking for seems to be "a gruffing turkey-snordle", I suppose  

Yes, by golly-gosh that is very close!  I heard an old Inuit bee keeper once use the expression "a gruffing turkey-snordle platz wobble" just before he dispatched a particularly feisty walrus.  I think that might apply to Tanki devs also...they just don't care about us. (Didn't Michael Jackson write a song about this?)

 

 

Edited September 14, 2020 by Joeguy

[NumberSix 40]

Well, the Inuit know their walrusses, that's for sure! 

[04C5421 0]

On 13/09/2020 at 18:23, Snafu said:

Então o Dia do Tanker chegou e passou com o pico online não ultrapassando 13k. Apenas colocando aqui para o registro 

Hey bro, how did you get this information? Do you have a specific website for this?

[Snafu 139]

12 hours ago, 04C5421 said:

Hey bro, how did you get this information? Do you have a specific website for this?

http://tankionline.com/graphic.swf

To open it you can use standalone flash:  https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/32/flashplayer_32_sa.exe

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

By the way, you can get the raw player count (at 15 minute intervals) at https://tankionline.com/s/statistics.txt

[bossman161 84]

I really hope some company buys the game out and fixes all this crap that's been done to it.