Let's Discuss Hopper!

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

4 hours ago, Sh1T_s said:

To balance this hull mb need to make a thing that when hopper use their ability it can't take gold

Huh???? Gold Box is just a minor bonus in a battle. This game is not about who catches the most Au.

4 hours ago, Sh1T_s said:

then nerf their ability in other character, at example to remove or stun or fire damage.

Its jumping ability itself already provides massive advantage, let alone having burn 'n stun combo when jumping.

And cannot score goal/cap flag in RBG/ASL if there is a tank sitting on the goal/point. 

Edited March 18, 2021 by FrozenRailgun

[EternalGlory 62]

On 3/7/2021 at 6:29 AM, asem.harbi said:

Hopper ruined capturing modes CTF/Rugby more than it ruined the Goldboxes, Gold box is no more an important thing in the game and it drops a lot. If you care about every gold dropping you wont play ever, they drop a lot.

what means ruined if you also can use it... If you think hopper is op just use it and thats it, imo, unless you dont like controls or gameplay with hopper is little different story

[wolverine848 13,097]

58 minutes ago, EternalGlory said:

what means ruined if you also can use it... If you think hopper is op just use it and thats it, imo, unless you dont like controls or gameplay with hopper is little different story

So the counter to hopper is ... hopper?  That's just silly.

Everybody should just use hopper?  Why not change the name from Tanki Online to Hopper Online?

We had the same thing with Hornet OD for quite some time.  And others justified it by saying "just use hornet as well".  

[EternalGlory 62]

31 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

  That's just silly.

Everybody should just use hopper?  Why not change the name from Tanki Online to Hopper Online?

We had the same thing with Hornet OD for quite some time.  And others justified it by saying "just use hornet as well".  

its simple and right even if it sounds silly, imagine if hopper will not recieve nerf and it`s op-(as many of you think-i don`t, and i don`t use it, but who cares?), then will be silly to use it or not? So whats your point, better stop playing just cuz hoppers and cuz doesnt want to use it? And third point of view - just complain in forums and nothing happens... For name of the game... i really don`t care... I play what i like and name is maybe the last thing that bothers me.

Interesting what you offer if not nerf hopper anyway, and not buffing other things to counter actually... let me guess? nothing, or?

Edited March 18, 2021 by EternalGlory

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 minutes ago, EternalGlory said:

its simple and right even if it sounds silly, imagine if hopper will not recieve nerf and it`s op-(as many of you think-i don`t, and i don`t use it, but who cares?), then will be silly to use it or not? So whats your point, better stop playing just cuz hoppers and cuz doesnt want to use it? And third point of view - just complain in forums and nothing happens... For name of the game... i really don`t care... I play what i like and name is maybe the last thing that bothers me.

It's OP.  You are in denial when you state otherwise.

And it really would be a dumb game if everyone just started playing the OP-flavor-of-the-month.

One of the (many) reasons players are leaving this game in droves.

[EternalGlory 62]

5 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

It's OP.  You are in denial when you state otherwise.

And it really would be a dumb game if everyone just started playing the OP-flavor-of-the-month.

One of the (many) reasons players are leaving this game in droves.

I play and i doesnt see only hopper`s in the game. Most players use viking and hunter, wasp, heavy hulls, i even have a lot of games without seeing a hopper, and yes, in ctf mode. So why people doesnt use it if is sooo OP? Or you face only hoppers in your games? I think crisis is bigger problem combined with hopper, and not only with hopper, but almost no one is complaining about crisis?

Edited March 18, 2021 by EternalGlory

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 minutes ago, EternalGlory said:

I play and i doesnt see only hopper`s in the game. Most players use viking and hunter, wasp, heavy hulls, i even have a lot of games without seeing a hopper, and yes, in ctf mode. So why people doesnt use it if is sooo OP? Or you face only hoppers in your games? I think crisis is bigger problem combined with hopper, and not only with hopper, but almost no one is complaining about crisis?

LOL.  Players use it ALL THE TIME in CTF/Rugby/Assault.  They are doing > 50% of the caps in those modes.

You must have your eyes closed for a significant portion of your battles.   

 

Players are complaining about the hopper crisis and hopper-Defender combos.

Funny how players are not complaining about hornet-crisis and wasp-crisis.  Don't see those hulls doing even half the capping Hopper is.

Edited March 18, 2021 by wolverine848

[EternalGlory 62]

11 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

LOL.  Players use it ALL THE TIME in CTF/Rugby/Assault.  They are doing > 50% of the caps in those modes.

You must have your eyes closed for a significant portion of your battles.   

 

Players are complaining about the hopper crisis and hopper-Defender combos.

Funny how players are not complaining about hornet-crisis and wasp-crisis.  Don't see those hulls doing even half the capping Hopper is.

Because everyone who have crisis is just using it with hopper, because is much better to jump and go fast with +70% speed in the sky, you cap for seconds in small and medium maps while with hornet and wasp other`s can still shoot at you much more. If hopper lose ability to jump they will start complaing about other combos with crisis, but will probably not lose this abolity, even in tanki wiki they are saying it to you: hopper is used to capture flags. They clearly say to you is normal hopper to be the easiest and best way, if you want to capture flag for this moment, so... People will be always complaining, i`m sure very people hate hoppers, but also very people love hoppers... So what i can say...

[wolverine848 13,097]

Just now, EternalGlory said:

Because everyone who have crisis is just using it with hopper, because is much better to jump and go fast with +70% speed in the sky, you cap for seconds in small and medium maps while with hornet and wasp other`s can still shoot at you much more.

You just made my point for me.  Many thanks!     

[EternalGlory 62]

17 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

You just made my point for me.  Many thanks!     

But its just strong because of conditions, this doesnt make hopper OP, crisis+hopper is just significiant OP for capturing if hopper gets the flag. For this problem people definitely should blame crisis more , not hopper. Without crisis hopper can`t leave easy if defenders are not very close, hopper can`t stun them and etc...If defenders doing well their`s job hopper even will not survive to get close to the flag, but i saw 95% are only noobs in the game who only have equipment, but doesnt play together, they care more for 1 vs 1 kills than for flag. Everyone care only about do their daily missions and doesnt even care who will win tbh... And maybe this is the main reason people leave tanki, cuz most people doesn`t do what they must do...

Edited March 18, 2021 by EternalGlory

[Sh1T_s 1]

@FrozenRailgun But what you will say about containers, that are very rare, and you see that all taks will fight for this and come one hopper and jump at this. From containers, rare but its possible, to get nice rewards etc.

[cool12345 123]

On 3/17/2021 at 4:19 PM, wolverine848 said:

So the counter to hopper is ... hopper?  That's just silly.

Everybody should just use hopper?  Why not change the name from Tanki Online to Hopper Online?

We had the same thing with Hornet OD for quite some time.  And others justified it by saying "just use hornet as well".  

If Tanki Online had been called "Hopper" I would never have joined!  How stupid is a game where Tanks hop?

[E_polypterus 2,374]

16 minutes ago, cool12345 said:

If Tanki Online had been called "Hopper" I would never have joined!  How stupid is a game where Tanks hop?

Wait Hopper can hop? Howww

[cool12345 123]

Hoppers do ruin the game. In Rugby they steal the ball from their own tankers. They can end a game in under three minutes with "hop and score".

It really was the worst idea to introduce them to a tank game that used to be fun. 

[cool12345 123]

This is for you "Flying Monkeys".  Every time you try to steal the Rugby ball from me I'm going to block you.  It's a team effort.  Stop acting like a**holes. 

[awesome-blaster 3]

Hopper stinks.  It should not be allowed.  No tank should be able to hover over a building, shoot, and then sink down below it so you can't see or shoot it.  And no tank should be able to hop over other tanks, burn and stun them at the same time.  Tanks do not hover; tanks do not fly.  We need to let the developers know that it should be taken off the board permanently!!!

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 hours ago, cool12345 said:

This is for you "Flying Monkeys".  Every time you try to steal the Rugby ball from me I'm going to block you.  It's a team effort.  Stop acting like a**holes. 

Good luck.  There's a bug with Hoppers and they ghost right through you.

[Byber.Butthucont 8]

Hopper is fine from top to bottom but the jumping is way too much, golds and rugby balls are no fun anymore.

[Premise 24]

Hello!

I believe hoppers should be used for strategic movement in battle, for example jumping over walls to capture flag, or jumping on a house for better overview of the map and so on.

Not for ruining gold events such as this one - April fools days 2021 - it's basically impossible to catch gold box with any other hull than hopper now. It wouldn't hurt that much if there were five hoppers in battle, but now, from 16-player match there are always at least 13 hoppers, in one battle I was even the only one with "normal" hull.

I don't mind hoppers in MM, as they are easier to kill, it's balanced, but they really ruin gold events like this one. I am not a player that would pick a hull simply because it's overpowered, if the playing with hopper would be enjoyable then I would play with it. However the gameplay with hopper, at least for me, is not enjoyable and I believe most of hoppers are playing with it just because gold is a piece of cake.

I would suggest a solution, make impossible to catch gold boxes for hoppers while they're in the air.

 

 

Premise

[wild001 1,422]

Use wasp bomb, 

i caught 2 w dict hull and mine the drop zone w saboteur drone.

or use viking OD to clear all drone around once you see the mark

[alkyng 3,080]

17 minutes ago, Premise said:

I believe hoppers should be used for strategic movement in battle, for example jumping over walls to capture flag, or jumping on a house for better overview of the map and so on.

Not for ruining gold events such as this one

I believe that Hopper should be used for strategic movement in Gold Boxes, for example catching every gold from you Premise, or stealing a gold from you by jumping over a house.

Not for ruining the normal battles in capturing the flag !! 

 

Thaaat Logic   You see it's balanced in MM but in events No..   If normal MM battles and wins/loses wasn't in your cares, that doesn't mean you have to consider it as balanced there.

Hopper ruined CTF/Rugby, more than it ruined the Gold boxes..   Honestly I had a lot to say in agreement with your speech, but the word "balanced" have disgusted me.

Btw, forgetting..

I agree with you that Hopper is overwhelmed in the events with an incredible amount, the golds are literally for them..  And your suggestion about restricting them from taking the golds in the air honestly makes sense.. You know that taking the golds from the air by any tank before was a restricted? By their poor anti-cheat system of catching the hack, they considered taking the gold from the air by anyway is restricted.  But after releasing Hopper, many things changed, even the maps borders have been widened, while in the past going above any house is directly SD.. which is a really disgusting thing and I hated it honestly.

[alkyng 3,080]

29 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

Topic Merged.

The developers intended hopper to be the best hull at catching gold-boxes. 

I will say the prohibited word and add it above of what you say that the developers don't hope to say..

"The developers intended hopper to be the best hull at catching the gold boxes AND ruining and finishing the CTF/Rugby battles in less than 2 minutes in sake of killing the meaning of the gameplay"

[Premise 24]

30 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

Topic Merged.

The developers intended hopper to be the best hull at catching gold-boxes. 

Will they also develop a hull with OD that would instantly kill every opponent in the map? It would be best for TDM. And a hull that would kill juggernaut on touch? That would be ideal for juggernaut mode. 

[Premise 24]

7 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

I believe that Hopper should be used for strategic movement in Gold Boxes, for example catching every gold from you Premise, or stealing a gold from you by jumping over a house.

Not for ruining the normal battles in capturing the flag !! 

 

Thaaat Logic   You see it's balanced in MM but in events No..   If normal MM battles and wins/loses wasn't in your cares, that doesn't mean you have to consider it as balanced there.

Hopper ruined CTF/Rugby, more than it ruined the Gold boxes..   Honestly I had a lot to say in agreement with your speech, but the word "balanced" have disgusted me.

Btw, forgetting..

I agree with you that Hopper is overwhelmed in the events with an incredible amount, the golds are literally for them..  And your suggestion about restricting them from taking the golds in the air honestly makes sense.. You know that taking the golds from the air by any tank before was a restricted? By their poor anti-cheat system of catching the hack, they considered taking the gold from the air by anyway is restricted.  But after releasing Hopper, many things changed, even the maps borders have been widened, while in the past going above any house is directly SD.. which is a really disgusting thing and I hated it honestly.

If you mean hoppers with crisis then yes, I agree, otherwise hopper without crisis isn't ruining CTF/RGB.

[destroyer21873 28]

It's easier to deal with hoppers in my opinion by having magnum with an alt that can move up down and with enough practice you could potentially be able to knock them out of the air or knock them off the top of buildings