Let's Discuss Hopper!

[2shots2kills 2,364]

1 hour ago, Akame said:

@2shots2kills the turret he used does matter. Also the way you described the usage of crisis is mediocre. It must be a camping team if the hopper only has to use '4' once until he reaches enemy base to tank. Sir, please adapt, crisis is not hard to fight if you are smart. @TheRealHZFJ and @Tidebreaker can both agree with me, along with others. You talk of a mediocre use with crisis, using 1-5 for supplies imagine . Meanwhile hoveing mechanic, yes at times it is glitchy, but driving still needs technique and practice unless you're in a map with a straight like Desert.

You also seem to forget that the majority of the playerbase is bad at the gake or has weak equipement, hence making this mediocre player seem good. How about seeing how he fights against a good team? Like an actual good team.

Still, you did not get my point. Sir, please read again, it's not hard to understand if you are smart.

 

You are actually saying that a mediocre player seems good thanks to the broken combo of Hopper and Crisis. And that is exactly what my point is.

 

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What is the point that you are trying to make instead? That I do not know what I am talking about? 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 18, 2020 by 2shots2kills

[Akame 4,578]

3 hours ago, 2shots2kills said:

Still, you did not get my point. Sir, please read again, it's not hard to understand if you are smart.

 

You are actually saying that a mediocre player seems good thanks to the broken combo of Hopper and Crisis. And that is exactly what my point is.

 

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What is the point that you are trying to make instead? That I do not know what I am talking about? 

 

 

 

 

No, i'm also saying that majority of the community is far worse than mediocre players.

[2shots2kills 2,364]

20 minutes ago, Akame said:

No, i'm also saying that majority of the community is far worse than mediocre players.

That was known before you pointed it out. 

[Akame 4,578]

Just now, 2shots2kills said:

That was known before you pointed it out. 

Then u cant say hopper crisis is op  if it's generally just beating the people who can't outsmart these mediocre players.

[2shots2kills 2,364]

6 minutes ago, Akame said:

Then u cant say hopper crisis is op  if it's generally just beating the people who can't outsmart these mediocre players.

I can say what I want mate. Hopper Crisis is op. Most of the playerbase agrees with me. 

If you disagree because you spent money on it, or because you feel like you are better then everybody else, ok. I don't care. 

[Akame 4,578]

Just now, 2shots2kills said:

I can say what I want mate. Hopper Crisis is op. Most of the playerbase agrees with me. 

If you disagree because you spent money on it, or because you feel like you are better then everybody else, ok. I don't care. 

I disagree because i have fought them often and they are nothing compared to other players. It's called personal experience. People say everything is OP when they die to it, and then some involve 'flying cheat' . 

It's not about money, it's about thinking ahead and timing. Get over it.

[2shots2kills 2,364]

23 minutes ago, Akame said:

I disagree because i have fought them often and they are nothing compared to other players. It's called personal experience. People say everything is OP when they die to it, and then some involve 'flying cheat' . 

I am sure your personal experience is worth more then my 10 years of being here in Tanki Online. 

 

I say that is overpowered because it breaks the game when compared to the rest of the equipment, as I already said before:

"As in speed, jumping ability and the option of ignoring the enemy team completely thanks to the hovering mechanic." 

 

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It's not about thinking ahead and timing, it's about money. Get over it.

  There, I corrected it for you. 

 

Since I already made my point and I stand by it, I have no interest in continuing this little "conversation". Have a good day and Adiòs

[Akame 4,578]

You being blind for real, I guess you haven't fought real players clearly.
HoPpEr CrIsIs is oP, meanwhile fighting EMP Gauss on a defender .
 

3mins left on that game:

Spoiler

How it ended:

Spoiler

If you want to call Hopper Crisis OP, you can maybe now, because I KNOW how to USE IT. I'm not your mediocre player. A mediocre Crisis Hopper would have lost in face of that EMP since most of them use cold immunity, hardly any hopper, maybe 1 till date i've seen use EMP immunity.

I played it smarter, went for the unprotected capture points, and yes me and my team took over, not because Crisis is OP, they way I used it, optimized. I probably used OD only twice there, don't chat about flying out, it's a CP game.

Think Smart, Play Smarter.

Crisis has many drawbacks, not that you would know . Ignorance is bliss.

[Akame 4,578]

7 hours ago, 2shots2kills said:

Press 4, approach the enemy base, press 2 and 1, then jump while pressing 4, capture. Wow that requires so much effort, truly the work of a masterful player. 

Maybe if the team is dumb then you can just run, you forget the map is large, allies and enemies can move to places and flank. You over-estimate crisis, yes it's fun, but against a good team, it's nothing special.

At the end of the day, it's a 2K HP Hull, yes it was too strong during mad tanks, 4k hp was a breeze, but 2k damage, is lightwork.

Edited November 18, 2020 by Akame

[2shots2kills 2,364]

34 minutes ago, Akame said:

If you want to call Hopper Crisis OP, you can maybe now, because I KNOW how to USE IT. 

I can call it OP whenever I feel like it, I don't need you here showing your credit card skills, do you understand? 

 

35 minutes ago, Akame said:

not that you would know . Ignorance is bliss.

Also, nice show of maturity and respect. Almost as disgusting as Gauss/Hopper + Crisis. I can see now why you play that combo.

 

Now as I said before: I have no interest in continuing this little "conversation". Have a good day and Adiòs. 

 

[Akame 4,578]

5 minutes ago, 2shots2kills said:

I can call it OP whenever I feel like it, I don't need you here showing your credit card skills, do you understand? 

 

Also, nice show of maturity and respect. Almost as disgusting as Gauss/Hopper + Crisis. I can see now why you play that combo.

 

Now as I said before: I have no interest in continuing this little "conversation". Have a good day and Adiòs. 

 

I said that because you clearly are ignorant of the crisis drawbacks and usage, all you see is positives of the drone, but nothing else, sure, your ignorance in that sense is bliss for me.
Like, have you ever actually used this drone, off the test server? I highly doubt it, hence why you wouldn't even know how it actually fairs in a real MM game.
This combo with shaft is lovely, if you see me in game, in the other side, I will be sure to give you a taste of an actual crisis to test whether you and your team are smart enough to counter a drone that has plenty of setbacks compared to a few drones.

I can assure you, Gauss Hoppers are nothing like how I am in game, you can call it disgusting, but it takes real effort in high end games against good players.

But yes of course we should stop the convo here, I mean, this thread isn't called 'Let's discuss Crisis' , if it was, i'd have also shown you Isida Mammoth Crisis :)) 

P.S. If you really think Crisis is OP, maybe just the speed bonus on maximum speed is a bit overboard, but acknowledging that it cannot have any damage or armor boost, it's a balanced stat change. We could go into detail with how Hyperion, Camper, Defender and Booster are more superior.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

6 minutes ago, Akame said:

I said that because you clearly are ignorant of the crisis drawbacks and usage, all you see is positives of the drone, but nothing else, sure, your ignorance in that sense is bliss for me.
Like, have you ever actually used this drone, off the test server? I highly doubt it, hence why you wouldn't even know how it actually fairs in a real MM game.
This combo with shaft is lovely, if you see me in game, in the other side, I will be sure to give you a taste of an actual crisis to test whether you and your team are smart enough to counter a drone that has plenty of setbacks compared to a few drones.

I can assure you, Gauss Hoppers are nothing like how I am in game, you can call it disgusting, but it takes real effort in high end games against good players.

But yes of course we should stop the convo here, I mean, this thread isn't called 'Let's discuss Crisis' , if it was, i'd have also shown you Isida Mammoth Crisis :)) 

P.S. If you really think Crisis is OP, maybe just the speed bonus on maximum speed is a bit overboard, but acknowledging that it cannot have any damage or armor boost, it's a balanced stat change. We could go into detail with how Hyperion, Camper, Defender and Booster are more superior.

Honestly, I don't find it broken. Overdrive is pretty awkward, and only becomes OP with Drones. You can argue that with all other hulls now. Those who rage over Hopper's taking your golds, boohoo. Accept it. It's just 1000 crystals. Back in the day complained Dictator, then Wasps be taking golds.

[cosmic666 1,055]

On 11/17/2020 at 3:53 PM, 2shots2kills said:

May I say that the "UFO" cheat back in the days was more balanced then this abomination?

 

 

 

 

Just watched that video.

The most OP equipment ever in TO.

For actually ending battles it has no comparison. Not even the OP overdrive of hornet could outdo that in battle.

Anyone who says different is bereft of brain cells. 

It is just a joke the devs would stoop even lower than hornet to bring rubles to the TO coffers.

No other hull, even if it was itself paired with crisis could cap that quick are with apparent ease.

The game is broken and will remain so when players like acne endorse legal hacks like this.

[cosmic666 1,055]

7 hours ago, Akame said:

@2shots2kills the turret he used does matter. Also the way you described the usage of crisis is mediocre. It must be a camping team if the hopper only has to use '4' once until he reaches enemy base to tank. Sir, please adapt, crisis is not hard to fight if you are smart. @TheRealHZFJ and @Tidebreaker can both agree with me, along with others. You talk of a mediocre use with crisis, using 1-5 for supplies imagine . Meanwhile hoveing mechanic, yes at times it is glitchy, but driving still needs technique and practice unless you're in a map with a straight like Desert.

You also seem to forget that the majority of the playerbase is bad at the gake or has weak equipement, hence making this mediocre player seem good. How about seeing how he fights against a good team? Like an actual good team.

WOW, i agree with something you said.

Your right, if he faced a team made up of players like me he deff would be toast....nice call....like it.

[Akame 4,578]

For anyone who wants to understand Crisis:

Spoiler

Note there is a typo, Hyperion Speed is 140% not 200%

Yes Crisis can keep switching modes, but you see, it'll always be at a real disadvantage.

Edited November 18, 2020 by Akame
Additional information included

[cosmic666 1,055]

2 hours ago, Akame said:

I disagree because i have fought them often and they are nothing compared to other players. It's called personal experience. People say everything is OP when they die to it, and then some involve 'flying cheat' . 

It's not about money, it's about thinking ahead and timing. Get over it.

Nope again you are wrong, your very good at being wrong actually, you learn that all by yourself. 

say a wasp rail kills me i don't say it is OP.

Your a FLYING CHEAT user. I'm gonna guess it's because you really can't do jack with a normal hull.....i have screen to prove it remember, you no the battle you were in with me when i came TOP and you came BOTTOM, you no the battle i excelled in when you were getting your a## handed to you.

Now run along kid, back to your naughty step.

Leave the intelligent posts to the adults. 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

They need to remove the MACHINE GUN CHEAT from the game. Also the NO LASER CHEAT from the game. Also, don't forget about the BIG TANK THAT OVERDRIVE PUSHES ME AWAY CHEAT from battles.

 

Edit: Im not raging, I'm being sarcastic.

Edited November 18, 2020 by yellowghetto

[Akame 4,578]

25 minutes ago, cosmic666 said:

Nope again you are wrong, your very good at being wrong actually, you learn that all by yourself. 

say a wasp rail kills me i don't say it is OP.

Your a FLYING CHEAT user. I'm gonna guess it's because you really can't do jack with a normal hull.....i have screen to prove it remember, you no the battle you were in with me when i came TOP and you came BOTTOM, you no the battle i excelled in when you were getting your a## handed to you.

Now run along kid, back to your naughty step.

Leave the intelligent posts to the adults. 

You sir, really are the circus of the forum, from what everyone else has told me.
Meanwhile, NOT playing as hopper, against 2 hoppers:

For ingame shots:

Spoiler

@cosmic666  Do say I used hopper there , oh wait will you say crisis OP

 

PS. the screenshot you have, is me playing with an under average combo, you can embarrass yourself and post it if you want, it was obvious that I didn't really play there unlike you with your IB Heat Imm Vulc Hunter, do show

Edited November 18, 2020 by Akame

[wolverine848 13,097]

3 hours ago, Akame said:

No, i'm also saying that majority of the community is far worse than mediocre players.

Not by Marshal.  At this point they have developed some skill and many of the real noobs have given up.

Either that OR ... for some reason MM decides to place me against decent competition ALL the time.

 

Or maybe your definition of "less than mediocre" is different from mine.  Majority of community is AVERAGE - which is basically the definition.

[Akame 4,578]

10 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Not by Marshal.  At this point they have developed some skill and many of the real noobs have given up.

Either that OR ... for some reason MM decides to place me against decent competition ALL the time.

 

Or maybe your definition of "less than mediocre" is different from mine.  Majority of community is AVERAGE - which is basically the definition.

Well we still have many players that don't turn turret. That's reducing overall efficiency, many play with sounds off, can't hear surroundings, OD activations, that's also reducing player experience. The radar on HTML, useful on some occasions, remains unused by majority of the playerbase. Status effects on HTML too, many players don't know AP/EMP/Stun/Spawn Immunity symbols. It's the understanding of the game, awareness of surroundings, etc. Also with players wasting overdrives, happens often, take siege for example, 2 ally titans have a dome ready, 1 places it, the other places immediately after, a whole wasted overdrive can change the flow of game a lot. Or even a Titan placing a dome knowing an enemy hunter will deactivate it, or maybe not even knowing enemy has OD, again, it happens even in legend ranks, it's the lack of knowledge mainly...or even just hasty and rash decisions.

If we go back onto the Hopper topic here.

As with Hopper, there are 2 types of motions, the keyboard, and the html mouse, one can't strafe, it's easier to fight against the keyboard ones. When it comes to facing html mouse hoppers, players need to understand how they fight, when they may strafe and try peek shots, etc. The html mouse hopper does have a weakness, which i shall not disclose for now. 

Edited November 18, 2020 by Akame

[Akame 4,578]

44 minutes ago, cosmic666 said:

 

Your a FLYING CHEAT user. I'm gonna guess it's because you really can't do jack with a normal hull.....

 

Leave the intelligent posts to the adults. 

Meanwhile posted a game where I didn't use hopper, also posted factual data about drones, what did you do, just complain? Are you really that bad at fighting hoppers? Improve maybe?

At least involve something about hopper here in this thread like I have.

56 minutes ago, cosmic666 said:

WOW, i agree with something you said.

Your right, if he faced a team made up of players like me he deff would be toast....nice call....like it.

Yes do enlighten me with pics against hopper, I mean, you clearly are a hypocrite, saying you can beat the crisis hopper, next minute calling it a flying cheat, make your mind up. Back your chat, like I have mine.

I guess the following would also be considered a flying cheat for you:

Spoiler

Disclaimer, Tanki did not get the idea of Hopper from this.

 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Why are there so many DRIVING CHEATS in the game?

[Potdindy 866]

1 minute ago, yellowghetto said:

Why are there so many DRIVING CHEATS in the game?

you are on a roll today!!!

[Akame 4,578]

2 minutes ago, yellowghetto said:

Why are there so many DRIVING CHEATS in the game?

 unfortunately on max reacts

[yellowghetto 3,206]

the FLYING CHEATS exist to help Mobile Players. All I am saying. It is like asking, "Do you want the game to grow? Or not?"

Edited November 18, 2020 by yellowghetto