Flash restrictions

[ammazzafurbi 37]

2 hours ago, Marcus said:

O lo usi o presto non sarai più in grado di giocare. Ci risulta che Flash ti piace e non vuoi passare a HTML5. Ma Flash verrà interrotto da Adobe e la versione Flash verrà rimossa.

Caro Marcus, ma almeno ci godiamo un gioco che è un gioco no un HTML che è peggio di flash. Ho provato a giocarvi ma come ho già scritto al support varie volte ci sono problemi : stenta a caricarsi , un'istruzione su significato dei  pulsanti che si debbono cliccare non si sa dove sia, la grafica stanca ,per chi ha problemi di vista come me, molto, se su flash vi erano blocchi HTML non è esente (oggi ho voluto provare ma a metà partita il carro bello fermo e non c'è stato verso di farlo muovere,indicazioni mendaci su cosa si ha a disposizione ,esempio avevo 164 mine diceva che ne avevo 0 ), scelta di pulsanti inopportuna esempio per attivare overdrive scelta infelice d'utilizzare tasto maiuscolo a sx della tastiera ( già difficile a capirlo senza istruzioni) per chi non gioca con ambo le mani deve lasciare tutto per attivarlo rischiando di essere colpito ,perché non tornate come in flash con il pulsante overdrive abbinato al pulsante grande maiuscolo. Se volete veramente tenere vecchi giocatori ascoltateli almeno e non pensate solo a rilasciare cose a pagamento per pochi intimi, che magari essendo russi o similari lo pagano la metà ,visto che tutti non hanno possibilità di acquisto .

A diversità di voi lo traduco in automatico in inglese cosi lo capite .

Dear Marcus, but at least we enjoy a game that is not an HTML game that is worse than flash. I tried to play it but as I have already written to support several times there are problems: it is hard to load, an instruction on the meaning of the buttons to click you don't know where it is, the graphics are tired, for those with vision problems like me , a lot, if there were HTML blocks on the flash it is not exempt (today I wanted to try but halfway through the game the cart was still and there was no way to make it move, false indications on what you have available, example I had 164 mines said that I had 0), choice of buttons inappropriate example to activate overdrive unfortunate choice of using capital key on the left of the keyboard (already difficult to understand without instructions) for those who do not play with both hands must leave everything to activate it risking to be hit, why don't you come back as in flash with the overdrive button paired with the big upper case button. If you really want to keep old players at least listen to them and don't just think about releasing paid things for a few close friends, who maybe being Russian or similar pay half, since everyone has no possibility of buying.
Unlike you I automatically translate it into English so you understand.

[Devastate 108]

Was looking forward to playing some Tanki when I got home. Now I need a thousand bucks in order get hardware to run the html5 power sucking client. 

This step by step forced migration is pointless. the big ass banner showing when you open flash gets the job done. Let us enjoy flash till after it’s cold in the grave  

well I had a good run of it, folks. I’ll catch you sometime next year. 

[Marcus 17,295]

Yo, do you guys really find it as a better solution to just move all the players to HTML5 in a moment instead of moving them smoothly?

[Devastate 108]

10 minutes ago, Marcus said:

Yo, do you guys really find it as a better solution to just move all the players to HTML5 in a moment instead of moving them smoothly?

Yes, mass moving everyone in the end of November is better because it allows th one who *cant* play on HTML to fully enjoy the game. There is always going to be the Few who don’t pay attention and will wake up in a panic in December 1st wondering what the hell is going on. Ruining the fun of the many in an attempt to limit the eventual dissatisfaction of the Few is counterproductive to having an active player place. 
 

Also, there isn’t really a “moving” of players. You can’t remotely  download HTML5 clients on peoples devices. Th Rey have to make the choice to switch, and on December 1st that choice will be playing on HTML5 or not playing at all. 
 

Get out of the firing line of players and Adobe, with whom the fault for the Death of Flash lies, rather than be responsible for   Why we can’t play Tanki anymore. 
 

3rd edit. Why the HELL couldnt this Latest outrage be announced a week in advance? Is it necessary to spring this on us like we are petulant children or violent rebels?

heres something, make a straw poll on an external website asking whether people want to be able to play MM Flash battles up to the November deadline. Post it on the forum, Facebook, Twitter, and discord and leave it up for a week. Allow us to spread it all over the inter webs and to our friends, should be able to get good response. Better yet, mention it in the Blog and make the YT partners post links to it as well. 

Edited September 25, 2020 by bozo88

[mixalis98 31]

5 minutes ago, Marcus said:

Yo, do you guys really find it as a better solution to just move all the players to HTML5 in a moment instead of moving them smoothly?

You just want us to move to HTML5? or you want us to move and continue playing the game in HTML5?

Then you better fix all the lag and loading issues first.

[Momentary 396]

10 minutes ago, Marcus said:

Yo, do you guys really find it as a better solution to just move all the players to HTML5 in a moment instead of moving them smoothly?

Now there is no point to play, (except if you want to play on Pro battles). Now the only thing you can do on flash is to play on pro battle or chatting plus you can do those things to HTLM 5 too, so yeah better move all players to HTLM 5. My opinion
 

[Devoid 2,601]

1 hour ago, l-l.e.a.t_Seeker said:

 : )  , You gotta say this so you dont lose your job. Understandable.

If I had anything negative stuff to say on any of the new updates, I would have said it. I respect my administrators, but I wouldn't mind speaking my opinion on stuff, no matter the consequences attached to it.

1 hour ago, Viking4s said:

@Mr.Nibblesmostly the motion sickness issue due to the camera. You might have not read the feedback from numerous player about it? It is not because you do not feel it that other player don't.

I have read through Players' opinions on this specific issue, but I haven't experienced it personally. Whenever I make a Forum post, I typically am only sharing my personal opinion, as I am not in a Helper position that requires posting content on this Forum that represents the average Player opinion. If I was a Forum Moderator, for example, I would provide average statements from the majority of Players, but I'm not in this position.

1 hour ago, Bamboozle said:

Well, a lot of people 'grow up' on Flash, so is hard for them to switch. However, you have some good points

I was the same way, reluctant to switch to using HTML5 because it felt so much different than the Flash version. Regardless, I kept playing with that version because I knew there'd be a point in which that version would have to be my primary/only way of playing Tanki Online. Through that time, I got used to the new interface, camera, graphics, etc., and I don't mind using it, and the lack of errors makes me want to use it over the Flash version.

1 hour ago, Joeguy said:

ahaha!  OMG!  How much Kool-aid does one need to drink for this kind of prattle to spew out?

I didn't drink any sort of beverage to encourage bad behavior (you obviously know which drinks I am talking about), I am just getting fed up with people spamming my DMs on Discord with statements like "Oh my gosh, why do you still play that dead game?" or "Tanki is dead, and only noobs play it," as well as seeing similar Forum posts. There's still a heavy player-base to this game, and it has already been mentioned before (in the "Tuesday with Marcus" stream) that the Developers will take actions to advertise the game once the Flash version is killed off (as the game will be much more update-to-date with today's game standards after that version is removed). We've seen games like Rocket League surge in popularity after new advertising techniques and promotions occurred, and I definitely think this will be the same case with Tanki Online. To those people making posts about the game being "dead," simply stop playing it; there's nobody forcing you to continue playing it, and it's not encouraged to keep doing something you don't enjoy.

 

And guys, before another one of you quotes me and says something like "well, you're a Helper, you're just defending the game," just know, this is my honest opinion, and there's been times I thought about leaving my Helper positions, but never about leaving the game (even if I'm not a Helper of the game, I will continue to play this game; I enjoy it thoroughly). I also urge all of you to keep your messages clean, and find the good in everything (because there's always a "silver lining" to any bad thing).

Thank you for reading.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

16 minutes ago, Marcus said:

Yo, do you guys really find it as a better solution to just move all the players to HTML5 in a moment instead of moving them smoothly?

Either shutting down Flash outright or simply not imposing any restrictions on Flash players until the very latest are both better than gradual feature reduction.

[Viking4s 10,791]

Finally move to HTML5 client  , bye bye old Tanki, long live Neo-Tanki
Better UI.

[SporkZilla 1,775]

@Marcus moving them smoothly isn't really a thing because the people that like (or merely tolerate) the HTML5 version are already playing it, and the people who hate it are still playing the Flash version

I don't think crippling the Flash version is going to persuade anyone still using Flash to move; they will only make that move (and not all of them will) when they are forced to on the 1st of December

The restrictions have stopped players like me from using the Flash version to check / change missions and some other things, but they haven't made me move to the HTML5 version because I stopped playing battles in the Flash version months ago because of in-game errors and the HTML5 camera fix

At the moment the restrictions are just annoying people and eroding any remaining goodwill between the players and the devs

I think they should either kill the Flash version now or leave it until December with no restrictions (and hassle pop-ups)

Edited September 25, 2020 by SporkZilla

[Viking4s 10,791]

1 hour ago, Marcus said:

Yo, do you guys really find it as a better solution to just move all the players to HTML5 in a moment instead of moving them smoothly?

Yes, do it straight now. We all have a little something that prevent us to do it. New school year = new start.
I just needed to use a different laptop with no VPN that blocked the HTML5, now its all set up, will never go bak to client Flash. It is 11 years old Like tanki 

Edited September 25, 2020 by Viking4s

[Kenya 1]

2021 - rip esports in dead game

[The-Kill-Switch 96]

2 hours ago, Viking4s said:

yes, but no, the game is not about Pro battle. You will get use to it, read instead of looking at the images, maybe.
Garage interface (despite the additional clicking) is no issue either. You can't manage between 5 icons? That is going to be difficutl for you when (if) they add another icon (gifts). 

i have no problem with it, but i think its pretty obvious that the only reason people arent moving over is because they dont like the interface. so if they make an option to use either the new or old interface then there wont be a problem with people moving over. 

[The-Kill-Switch 96]

2 hours ago, johnsama said:

I'm sorry to say this but this behaviour on behalf of tanki is dictatorship. You could leave all the options intact in the flash version and when we had to transfer to html version we would do that. I'm very angry with tanki.

not really dictatorship, you could just not play it. at the end of the day the html 5 version is the only way you will be able to play anyways because the people that make flash are stopping flash. i have suggested that they make the option to use the old interface but other than that there is no reason to be on flash still. 

[Bydo 20,119]

the only issue I have with changing over is the problems which still have not been fixed from day one . when they installed it..

along with not being allowed to change account names ..

[Senski 8]

We understand that by removing the flash version you want to get rid of your old players. This is your choice, not ours. Because the HTML5 version is much weaker than the flash, I don't see the point in continuing to play. Too bad for the good game, you forcibly destroyed it !

[Kenya 1]

2 hours ago, Mr.Nibbles said:

The amount of complaining over switching from a working client to another better working client with very simple interface changes is honestly bewildering to me...

I use HTML5 whenever I play Matchmaking battles, it works 10x better than the Flash version. I don't understand why some people are so reluctant to switch to the HTML5 version. Sure, the graphics might not be the best right now, but I ensure you, they will fix this in the coming months, as they won't need to support the Flash version anymore.

You are lier. HTML5 have so many errors and work slow. I have really good pc and internet connection but this client is worst than flash. You havent respect for players and this is why this noob game will dead

Edited September 25, 2020 by Kenya

[Viking4s 10,791]

20 minutes ago, Kenya said:

You are lier. HTML5 have so many errors and work slow. I have really good pc and internet connection but this client is worst than flash. You havent respect for players and this is why this noob game will dead

If you plays with the client Html5 it works perfectly, I just moved away from the flash client today.  I use a 11 years old laptop. I just realise it is a dual core (Intel Core i3 (3rd Gen) 3217U / 1.8 GHz), so i can do other stuff on the side

Edited September 25, 2020 by Viking4s

[XLG1 29]

1 hour ago, Marcus said:

Yo, do you guys really find it as a better solution to just move all the players to HTML5 in a moment instead of moving them smoothly?

@Marcus and the team he represents just have no respect for the players, honestly. 

There is nothing smooth about this, even in the article it says you're trying to force us to move. Stop telling lies, now.

Even saying this just shows the thought process of the developers. Add a retro / flash like interface and try to integrate that into the graphics / camera movement like flash, or also add incentives like a free XT skin or something to entice players.

You hardly respond to any player posts like this one, I am seeing only 2 responses in the topic.

HTML5 is indeed the future of gameplay, but it is not feasible to use and has reduced my gameplay massively because I have lost supplies and am not doing missions there currently. 

Most of the community left after flash is gone will probably be new players and 1% old players, so I would honestly get to that advertising as you mentioned in previous VLOG(s).

Selfish noob developers.

[Senski 8]

3 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

If you plays with the client Html5 it works perfectly, I just moved away from the flash client today.  I use a 11 years old laptop.
 

You haven't played for a long time, and you say that you switched to HTML5 - it means that you are a liar.
You can't play on a laptop at all

[Viking4s 10,791]

11 minutes ago, Senski said:

You haven't played for a long time, and you say that you switched to HTML5 - it means that you are a liar.
You can't play on a laptop at all

I play on a different account to try a different combo, this one reached legend (job done). Furthermore I am not the only one playing on HTML5 so... they are like 10k liars then.
Try to find what is wrong on your pc, it could be something very simple. You can definitly play with lap top, there is a sreen a key bord and it is plugged to internet 
It is not beause you can lie, that other are like you.

Edited September 25, 2020 by Viking4s

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

1 hour ago, Marcus said:

Yo, do you guys really find it as a better solution to just move all the players to HTML5 in a moment instead of moving them smoothly?

Isn't it obvious?

 

It's better if they were all forced to move either now or on flash's expiration date.

 

If you do choose to keep flash running, then just don't implement updates into it. Give it maintenance if needed. If necessary you can even separate flash users from HTML and mobile users.

 

Anyway, like I said before, if they have time to remove features from flash, then they certainly have time to make improvements to HTML5.

[XLG1 29]

18 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

Isn't it obvious?

 

It's better if they were all forced to move either now or on flash's expiration date.

 

If you do choose to keep flash running, then just don't implement updates into it. Give it maintenance if needed. If necessary you can even separate flash users from HTML and mobile users.

 

Anyway, like I said before, if they have time to remove features from flash, then they certainly have time to make improvements to HTML5.

Honestly I think this is the best solution. Flash users should be left until the time comes. Forcing players to move is just ridiculous. 

@Mr.Nibbles doing damage control for them as moderators / helpers always do.

Edited September 25, 2020 by XLG1

[Blazing 47]

i figured out a way to play any mode i want on flash version still 

it just takes some time to set up

anyways i will do this until flash is fully gone 

and then play less because html camera is so bad in my opinion

[mrvomit 106]

it's been fun so far , now looks it's over ,maybe they have some new playerts that will not notice. Cheers

btw

THAT error with the client still there.. A D D ADD ADD and NEVER FIX::
https://help.tankionline.com/communities/10/topics/63426-type-error-cannot-read-property-getextension-of-null?lang=en

Edited September 26, 2020 by mrvomit