declined Give option to exclude mobile users

[DageLV 71]

Last time I seriously played tanki was before all the mobile/HTML nonsense and I had to play the game to win. Today I played a little bit, I delivered 3 flags on future by spinning my turret non-stop, getting first place on team, winning the round, next game on juggernaut I sat in enemy base, got 26 kills as juggernaut before finally getting killed, then drove as isida/viking to enemy base and quickly finished off their juggernaut 2x.
A while ago it was possible to steal enemies flag eve in legend ranks undetected, sneak away, but u had to try to play at least.
I don't know if many people want to play against players worse than the bots from tutorial, but dayum splitting them would be nice.

[Thiedes 1,106]

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[Viking4s 10,791]

You pro! You should play E-sport.
How do you know that they are mobile players? They could be Martians with 3 fingers per hand...

[DageLV 71]

7 hours ago, Viking4s said:

You pro! You should play E-sport.
How do you know that they are mobile players? They could be Martians with 3 fingers per hand...

Im not pro, i lost hard while trying to play against one of the few decent mods in this game Tareq.Jami.
Even people with no hands play better than they do while using their imaginary hands.

[mjmj5558 2,346]

So what is your suggestion?

[DageLV 71]

do as most other games which have crossplay. Option to disable it.

[Viking4s 10,791]

TO can't do that, the pool of player is too small to allow such things.

Furthermore, your reference is a decent mods!?

Don't look down on other players.

[DageLV 71]

2 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

TO can't do that, the pool of player is too small to allow such things.

Furthermore, your reference is a decent mods!?

Don't look down on other players.

So instead of separating mobile shfest from pc, it's better to throw them all together so itll make everyone happy... PC players will be bored how easy it is, mobile players will be bored that they're HORRIBLE, free players bored cause the devs are milking buyers, buyers happy cause they feel like they have power because they got their hands on dads credit card...
Whats wrong with referencing a moderator? He was ex mod, regular player, I fought him, we both had connectivity issues, actually, everyone had that day, I lost, we laughed at the BS what went down in that battle and thats it.
I'm not looking down on them, I'm describing them.

[Viking4s 10,791]

5 minutes ago, DageLV said:

So instead of separating mobile shfest from pc, it's better to throw them all together so itll make everyone happy... PC players will be bored how easy it is, mobile players will be bored that they're HORRIBLE, free players bored cause the devs are milking buyers, buyers happy cause they feel like they have power because they got their hands on dads credit card...
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I'm not looking down on them, I'm describing them.

Welp, some game separate them, some other don't. Could be due to contract publisher or other technical reason.
I don't see the point to separate them, yes you look down on them. You can watch Mobile youtube video and/or ask players on the forum, there is no problem.

[DageLV 71]

1 minute ago, Viking4s said:

Welp, some game separate them, some other don't. Could be due to contract publisher or other technical reason.
I don't see the point to separate them, yes you look down on them. You can watch Mobile youtube video and/or ask players on the forum, there is no problem.

I'm highly confident most mobile users, according to EULA aren't even allowed to play the game, they don't even know how to read yet.
Which other game forces PC users to suffer through mobile users with no choice?

[Maf 32,326]

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As said in the same livestream I mentioned in your other topic, separating players by any characteristics is not something developers plan to do. Also, there's no reason to assume that mobile players are significantly weaker than PC. Mobile TO has a number of features that help players remain competitive against those playing on PC, namely the horizontal aim assist, auto-fire and auto supply activation. Considering how simple the game is overall, it's very much feasible to play on the similar level on mobile as on PC.

I'm not a big fan of mobile games in any form, but I tried TO mobile recently and my performance was quite successful. And I personally know multiple people who prefer TO mobile and are extremely effective with it.

Anyway, if the aim of this proposed segregation is to improve team balance, then it's not going to work. There are plenty of less-than-casual players on PC too.

[Viking4s 10,791]

12 minutes ago, DageLV said:

I'm highly confident most mobile users, according to EULA aren't even allowed to play the game, they don't even know how to read yet.
Which other game forces PC users to suffer through mobile users with no choice?

suffer, you are quite dramatic now. The cross-platform play is increasing in the video game industry, TO would be one of the first to do it.
Again TO players base is too small now, it would be bad decision to separate.

[mjmj5558 2,346]

You can do awasome things on mobile too! Also, i like to play with my PC friends from mobile, so this is not a good idea. 

[DageLV 71]

2 hours ago, Viking4s said:

suffer, you are quite dramatic now. The cross-platform play is increasing in the video game industry, TO would be one of the first to do it.
Again TO players base is too small now, it would be bad decision to separate.

I think the response was removed, but if Tanki is really one of the first ones to bring cross platforming, you mind sharing your sources? From my knowledge it's nowhere near first. But ima not rewrite everything I wrote once.

1 hour ago, At_Shin said:

 

What am I looking for? For far fewer kills than average, average deaths and a bit more score, if it was CTF u capped about 2 flags?
Or am I looking at the ad which gives u more crystals?
No, I'm not talking about mobile players suffering because they're on mobile, it's their own choice. I'm referring to people on PC who have to play with mobile users on their team and it's not their choice.
People who come at me head on, unable to turn turret are most likely mobile players. The people with bad connections shoot through walls. And I picked my equipment to be Isida/Viking even before the unique overdrives, so I can't be jumping on roofs with Viking and isida doesn't have that big of a recoil. Why I picked it? Cause its meh combo. At first, I went healer only, no kills, but that was miserable. So anyway, I started blasting.

52 minutes ago, mjmj5558 said:

You can do awasome things on mobile too! Also, i like to play with my PC friends from mobile, so this is not a good idea. 

Refer to tittle, second word from left.

what i get as a teammates on pc

 

[Maf 32,326]

47 minutes ago, DageLV said:

No, I'm not talking about mobile players suffering because they're on mobile, it's their own choice. I'm referring to people on PC who have to play with mobile users on their team and it's not their choice.

Team play is long gone from Tanki, and this is intentional. I'll reference the livestream once again, where developers said that they intentionally reduced the significance of teamwork and battle rewards in favour of personal rewards from the missions page — special/daily/weekly missions and challenges. This makes battles focus a lot more on personal performance, and while a lot of people might not agree with the overall phylosophy of it, such a system does help to minimise the frustration of being let down by unskilled teammates.

Besides, I'd like to believe that Mm does take skill (i.e. effectiveness) into account to some extent, so if your team has bad teammates, the other team should have such players too. And if you are as good as you claim to be in your first post, then MM specifically puts you with weak teammates so that you carry the team. Take it as a compliment and don't let them down  

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 minutes ago, Maf said:

such a system does help to minimise the frustration of being let down by unskilled teammates.

Nope - it does not.  Can't stand being placed on teams with selfish players who are only in it for themselves. 

I've started leaving battles when I see players like that on my team.  MM can put THAT in it's pipe and smoke it.

[DageLV 71]

16 minutes ago, Maf said:

Team play is long gone from Tanki, and this is intentional. I'll reference the livestream once again, where developers said that they intentionally reduced the significance of teamwork and battle rewards in favour of personal rewards from the missions page — special/daily/weekly missions and challenges. This makes battles focus a lot more on personal performance, and while a lot of people might not agree with the overall phylosophy of it, such a system does help to minimise the frustration of being let down by unskilled teammates.

Besides, I'd like to believe that Mm does take skill (i.e. effectiveness) into account to some extent, so if your team has bad teammates, the other team should have such players too. And if you are as good as you claim to be in your first post, then MM specifically puts you with weak teammates so that you carry the team. Take it as a compliment and don't let them down  

if there are no teams in tanki, why have red/blue teams? Why have gamemodes specifically focused on team play, like CTF, CP, Juggernaut, american football etc?
no, i dont claim im good player. Im literally spinning my turret in circles and going to enemy base. No skill involved. I still manage to carry the team.
And if im placed against bad players etc, the most fun thing in entire game is to turn the turret and navigate the map from point a to point b, the balancing system aint working so well.
Tanki X had the same problem. it was so boring, the most action intense thing there was to navigate map by only turning ur barrel.

 

9 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Nope - it does not.  Can't stand being placed on teams with selfish players who are only in it for themselves. 

I've started leaving battles when I see players like that on my team.  MM can put THAT in it's pipe and smoke it.

I used to block/push off people who were playing TDM in CTF and not helping team at all. It was few years ago, just for clarification.

[Maf 32,326]

6 minutes ago, DageLV said:

if there are no teams in tanki, why have red/blue teams? Why have gamemodes specifically focused on team play, like CTF, CP, Juggernaut, american football etc?
no, i dont claim im good player. Im literally spinning my turret in circles and going to enemy base. No skill involved. I still manage to carry the team.

 

I think it's a case of "simulated" teamwork, I guess. People love the idea of playing in a team and competing against other teams, but they don't want actual teamwork. So the game is made in a way that you have the illusion of teamwork, but in reality everyone does their own thing, and the outcome mostly depends on one individual playying the objective a bit better than everyone else. At least I think that's the case.

I personally don't experience it like that, and very often I find random teammates who are interested in cooperation and helping each other out in order to win. And I try to help teammates too. But it's likely that my position in that sense is a bit uncommon since I have the equipment power to play as an individual if it's necessary, and I don't have the need to maximise my earnings.

[cosmic666 1,055]

1 minute ago, Maf said:

 

I think it's a case of "simulated" teamwork, I guess. People love the idea of playing in a team and competing against other teams, but they don't want actual teamwork. So the game is made in a way that you have the illusion of teamwork, but in reality everyone does their own thing, and the outcome mostly depends on one individual playying the objective a bit better than everyone else. At least I think that's the case.

I personally don't experience it like that, and very often I find random teammates who are interested in cooperation and helping each other out in order to win. And I try to help teammates too. But it's likely that my position in that sense is a bit uncommon since I have the equipment power to play as an individual if it's necessary, and I don't have the need to maximise my earnings.

You no you make sense quite a lot of the time. 

But it's likely that my position in that sense is a bit uncommon since I have the equipment power to play as an individual if it's necessary, and I don't have the need to maximise my earnings.

 

[cosmic666 1,055]

4 minutes ago, Maf said:

 

I think it's a case of "simulated" teamwork, I guess. People love the idea of playing in a team and competing against other teams, but they don't want actual teamwork. So the game is made in a way that you have the illusion of teamwork, but in reality everyone does their own thing, and the outcome mostly depends on one individual playying the objective a bit better than everyone else. At least I think that's the case.

I personally don't experience it like that, and very often I find random teammates who are interested in cooperation and helping each other out in order to win. And I try to help teammates too. But it's likely that my position in that sense is a bit uncommon since I have the equipment power to play as an individual if it's necessary, and I don't have the need to maximise my earnings.

You get a thanx instead of a like

[DageLV 71]

3 minutes ago, Maf said:

 

I think it's a case of "simulated" teamwork, I guess. People love the idea of playing in a team and competing against other teams, but they don't want actual teamwork. So the game is made in a way that you have the illusion of teamwork, but in reality everyone does their own thing, and the outcome mostly depends on one individual playying the objective a bit better than everyone else. At least I think that's the case.

I personally don't experience it like that, and very often I find random teammates who are interested in cooperation and helping each other out in order to win. And I try to help teammates too. But it's likely that my position in that sense is a bit uncommon since I have the equipment power to play as an individual if it's necessary, and I don't have the need to maximise my earnings.

at the video i posted, 5:21 i have 2 points more than top 1 opponent, but i have nearly 200 crystals more than he has.
My teams worst player has 55 score, same as enemy last player. Our teams player earned 155 crystals, enemy who lost got only 124 crystals.
so... because my team doesnt know what shape the flag is, i captured the only 3 flags for our team, my team got more crystals none that they deserve...

[Maf 32,326]

5 minutes ago, cosmic666 said:

You no you make sense quite a lot of the time. 

But it's likely that my position in that sense is a bit uncommon since I have the equipment power to play as an individual if it's necessary, and I don't have the need to maximise my earnings.

 

Basically, for most other players having good teammates is important because they need the support in order to win. But I don't mind having bad teammates because I can win the game on my own anyway. Especially now that Hopper is a thing

[DageLV 71]

9 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

I have a question, do most of the players in your battles have lesser gear score than you?

At WO5, they might be newbies (who ranked up too fast coz of XP boosts) who are still learning the game.

I can tell you that it is not that easy to capture flags in legend battles. Players have saboteur drones for defence, boosters and defenders... I have only seen such a scene in legend battles when most of enemy team players have not loaded into the battle yet.

I dont know, i would usually check the visual of players im with but theyre all m3.
If at WO5 its newbies and it takes mk4/mk5 gear to capture flags with ease...
Here is me stealing flag from legends while trying to play with 0 kills, only as a healer.
Its not that much harder.

 

 

[mjmj5558 2,346]

1 hour ago, DageLV said:

I think the response was removed, but if Tanki is really one of the first ones to bring cross platforming, you mind sharing your sources? From my knowledge it's nowhere near first. But ima not rewrite everything I wrote once.

What am I looking for? For far fewer kills than average, average deaths and a bit more score, if it was CTF u capped about 2 flags?
Or am I looking at the ad which gives u more crystals?
No, I'm not talking about mobile players suffering because they're on mobile, it's their own choice. I'm referring to people on PC who have to play with mobile users on their team and it's not their choice.
People who come at me head on, unable to turn turret are most likely mobile players. The people with bad connections shoot through walls. And I picked my equipment to be Isida/Viking even before the unique overdrives, so I can't be jumping on roofs with Viking and isida doesn't have that big of a recoil. Why I picked it? Cause its meh combo. At first, I went healer only, no kills, but that was miserable. So anyway, I started blasting.

Refer to tittle, second word from left.

what i get as a teammates on pc

 

Why do you think taht those were mobile players - noob is noob, good is good, whatever platform he is using.

[cosmic666 1,055]

16 minutes ago, Maf said:

Basically, for most other players having good teammates is important because they need the support in order to win. But I don't mind having bad teammates because I can win the game on my own anyway. Especially now that Hopper is a thing

You just had to mention it, shame on you, bad mod. Naughty step for 3,000,000 million years and i hope you glitch out every time you use it.