Tanki could most efficiently solve issues and give the game a good future by spending less than two hours updating the profile pages

[von_Cronberg 258]

Apparently the game developers are busy seeking paths to solve issues with the game and give it a good future. However, it is somewhat bizarre how they put tremendous programming effort into ever more disruptive changes to gameplay, but persistently ignore the one most efficient instrument to further that aim that would take less than two hours by one programmer to significantly further their aim: Updating the profile pages.

(1) On the face of it, an obviously not properly working website appalls players and customers. And to a visitor, the profile pages appear not properly working. Right on top of it, the players's tank is displayed, or rather not displayed, in Flash mode, which for these days only gives an error information to internet users. Tanki certainly knows the issue, as the end of Flash has been a main issue of company communication for more than a year. You have the html5 code for displaying current tanks, just copy it.

(2) Also on top of the page, there is (given even twice, to affirm its importance in judging an account) the information of an "efficiency ratio" score and rating for the player. Since the infamous parameter change of September, this efficiency ratio is going down for everyone (except a handful of players who cheat crystals without experience). It is psychologically incredibly dumb to use a ranking formula that makes everybody feel getting worse just by playing. Twist the formula to adapt to the parameter change.

(3) What is lacking on top of the pages is a finishing ratio for the player, which indicates the share of battle assignements that the player completed without leaving the battle prematurely. Giving this kind of information would nudge players to not desert battles they are assigned to, solving the one main issue of Matchmaking battles, namely desertion and the resulting uneven teams. As we all see now during the two weeks experiment, this issue still needs a solution and needs it more urgent than ever.

(4) Then the profile pages link to a separate "achievements" page while in fat numbers giving the overall score of the latter. However, these "achievements" pages are apparently not properly assessing information (for a long time, since the Mk update) and thus giving a faulty score. This issue could be solved in about ten minutes, but to this day, Alternativa rather annoys players and customers than investing these ten minutes in changing the values from the M-system to the Mk-system, and updating battle modes.

(5) In the game modes row, the graphic symbols for SGE mode and TJR mode are not properly displayed. This issue exists since the last game mode change, it looks horribly amateurish and would require only a few letters in the code to properly reference the source to solve. However, it looks like nobody felt that it should be done to this day.

(6) The bottom gifts row by its very existence points every player and customer to the fact that the html5 version of the game still lacks a feature which the dying Flash version of the game was cherished for. Best would be to add this feature including existing gifts into the html5 version, though if Alternativa's programming skills are inadequate to do so, then at least keep up your public image, and do not point people to your nature as a programming failure, by removing that row from profile pages.

Updating the profile pages this way would be the most efficiently spent programmer hours in the history of the enterprise.

 

Dear mods, there are a number of things I kindly ask you not to do now:

(a) Please do not bury this topic by moving it deep into whatever existing thread. I did check the existing forum topics thoroughly, and I came to the informed decision that in line with both the purpose and the rules of this forum, this new topic is warranted. Please to not override, and let us have a discussion.

(b) You will probably not all be able to withstand the urge to tell me that profile pages were irrelevant and that people who care for them were idiots, as usually at least one of you does under thus complaints. I strongly disagree with this claim in substance, and the persistent mentions of one or more of these points across the forum should give you pause to think about replying to such substantial complaints with insults, as some of you have so often done in the past.

(c) Yes, I did read the argument a thousand times, that the profile pages will eventually be integrated into the html5 version of the game, so there allegedly were no need to update them. However, the consequences of reality are based on the facts of reality and not on fantasy. It is not necessary to once more reply to a substantial complaint about the facts of reality with a fantasy.

(d) Yes, I did read the argument a thousand times, that the coders are so busy improving the game that they just cannot spare the two hours to update the profile pages. I would kindly point out that measuring the efficiency of business decisions is about comparing effort and gain. And it certainly is unimaginable to get so much gain with so few effort as spending two hours with an update of profile pages would achieve. Please spare me the "coders are too busy" story.

Edited November 6, 2020 by von_Cronberg
And there is one thing I would like to ask you to do: Please do include the topic of profile pages, including the six points brought up here, not least among them point (3), into your next weekly report.

[wolverine848 13,097]

3 hours ago, von_Cronberg said:

Giving this kind of information would nudge players to not desert battles they are assigned to,

Nope.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Welp. Time to report this topic for the mega long title, the massive wall of text, and the idiocy of thinking that tinkering with the profiles system will save this game.

 

Also a bonus report for wasting everyone's time and making them lose brain cells.

 

To everyone who read this topic thoroughly, you have my sincerest condolences.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

I agree with your point on Gifts, I think for sure it would be great if the devs could re-introduce Gifts to HTML5 as soon as possible - it surely wouldn't take much time and many people like them. One of the best ways to connect with your fellow tankers and to keep in touch.

As for saying that fixing the profiles will save Tanki, well of course I have to disagree there. The game has major issues and there is no way fixing the profile page will fix the game, surely that is obvious. Doesn't matter how good the profile page is if the game isn't fun to play or majorly imbalanced. It would be nice, but this isn't a priority - sure if the devs have time some work on profile pages would be cool.

As a side note - you are obviously intelligent from the language you use in your post, but it is wayyyy too long - winded for the points you are trying to get across. People are not going to read a post of that length, unless it is about something really serious - and even then it is unlikely. Try to be more succinct, and cut your word count down to at least 1/3 of what you have here and you will make your points more clearly - and people will probably respond more positively.

Edited November 7, 2020 by DestrotankAI9

[Person_Random 4,991]

Wow. I never knew titles could be that long.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

9 hours ago, Person_Random said:

Wow. I never knew titles could be that long.

Welcome to Game Discussion.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

16 hours ago, Person_Random said:

Wow. I never knew titles could be that long.

Welcome to a players lack of creativity to come up with a shorter title.

 

[Okami 3,041]

As someone who looks at the profiles a lot, I'd really like to see them get a makeover and bug fixes.

But, I wouldn't be surprised if they are low on the devs' list of priorities, as it's not part of the main game.

[mjmj5558 2,346]

4 hours ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

As someone who looks at the profiles a lot, I'd really like to see them get a makeover and bug fixes.

But, I wouldn't be surprised if they are low on the devs' list of priorities, as it's not part of the main game.

Why don't they make in-game ratings?

[Blutaar 1,904]

2 hours ago, mjmj5558 said:

Why don't they make in-game ratings?

If I am not mistaken, they are going to implement that in the future

[cosmic666 1,055]

Well i for one applaud von for his effort in writing such a long post on what he thinks needs to take place in order for TO to be more enjoyable.

But what actually needs to happen is..........well you all pretty much no what i'm gonna say so i'll end it right here. 

[von_Cronberg 258]

On 11/8/2020 at 6:42 AM, GrayWolf8733 said:

As someone who looks at the profiles a lot, I'd really like to see them get a makeover and bug fixes.

But, I wouldn't be surprised if they are low on the devs' list of priorities, as it's not part of the main game.

Indeed, the one reply that complaints about the partially dysfunctional state of the profile pages usually get, this is that it were low on the list of priorities, compared to ingame improvements. However, ingame improvements are a work that is always in progress, and with this argument, one would never invest the two hours to make profile pages fully functional. This "priority" argument in substance is nonsense.

Anyway, I am glad that the moderating team and other helpers of the game do refrain from insulting customers of the game in this thread, as they regrettably always used to do when complaints about the partially dysfunctional state of the profile pages come up. The only insults I read here come from the resident forum troll, and this certainly is progress.

[Potdindy 866]

I personally love the profiles. I probably wouldnt still be playing if the profiles didn't exist. Trying to manipulate numbers to build my profile is maybe the main thing I come back for

[DaringDeer 656]

The profiles are an important part of the game.  I look at them all the time and the data it provides is the source of my tooling to collect statistics on players.  I'd love for it to be enhanced as long as the underlying data is still accessible.

If anyone likes to look at profiles and is interested, below link contains the source for a bookmarklet to display more info.  It shows current turret/hull (needs updates for Ares/Hopper), shows stats per owned item and mode, counts paints, etc.  To use it:

Instructions:
1. Create a bookmark
2. Name it "Tanki Stats"
3. Paste contents of pastebin in URL/Location field.
4. Go view a profile like http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/daringdeer/ and click the bookmark you created to see some custom statistics.

https://pastebin.com/3CqgFL9U

[Potdindy 866]

14 minutes ago, DaringDeer said:

The profiles are an important part of the game.  I look at them all the time and the data it provides is the source of my tooling to collect statistics on players.  I'd love for it to be enhanced as long as the underlying data is still accessible.

If anyone likes to look at profiles and is interested, below link contains the source for a bookmarklet to display more info.  It shows current turret/hull (needs updates for Ares/Hopper), shows stats per owned item and mode, counts paints, etc.  To use it:

Instructions:
1. Create a bookmark
2. Name it "Tanki Stats"
3. Paste contents of pastebin in URL/Location field.
4. Go view a profile like http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/daringdeer/ and click the bookmark you created to see some custom statistics.

https://pastebin.com/3CqgFL9U

How exactly? I created a bookmark but how do I change the ratings page

[DaringDeer 656]

Go view a profile like http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/daringdeer/ and click the bookmark you created to see some custom statistics.

The bookmark you created runs the javascript in the URL/Location which modifies the profile page you are viewing.

[von_Cronberg 258]

5 hours ago, DaringDeer said:

The profiles are an important part of the game.  I look at them all the time and the data it provides is the source of my tooling to collect statistics on players.  I'd love for it to be enhanced as long as the underlying data is still accessible.

If anyone likes to look at profiles and is interested, below link contains the source for a bookmarklet to display more info.  It shows current turret/hull (needs updates for Ares/Hopper), shows stats per owned item and mode, counts paints, etc.  To use it:

Instructions:
1. Create a bookmark
2. Name it "Tanki Stats"
3. Paste contents of pastebin in URL/Location field.
4. Go view a profile like http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/daringdeer/ and click the bookmark you created to see some custom statistics.

https://pastebin.com/3CqgFL9U

What you are providing here is a more valuable service to human kind than the accomplishments of any dozen Nobel laureates taken together.

The sad aspects are first that it draws attention to the fact that Tanki itself does not provide this option (they should make you a good offer to buy your code), and second that looking at those data painfully reminds the players and customers to the fact how much the unwarranted parameter change of September 2020 has violated account statistics.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

On 11/12/2020 at 2:27 PM, DaringDeer said:

1. Create a bookmark
2. Name it "Tanki Stats"
3. Paste contents of pastebin in URL/Location field.
4. Go view a profile like http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/daringdeer/ and click the bookmark you created to see some custom statistics.

Still confused. May you provide a video tutorial or something like that?

[DaringDeer 656]

5 hours ago, FrozenRailgun said:

Still confused. May you provide a video tutorial or something like that?

• Create a new bookmark in your browser
• In Name (#1), give it a name
• Go to https://pastebin.com/3CqgFL9U and copy javascript to the clipboard (starting with "javascript:" and ending with "document.body.appendChild(b)})()})();")
• In URL (#2), paste the javascript copied from pastebin
• Save the bookmark
• Go to a profile like http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/daringdeer/
• While viewing the profile tab, click the newly created bookmark.  Clicking the bookmark will modify the profile page you are looking at and add the additional statistics.  

Does that make sense?

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

15 minutes ago, DaringDeer said:

•  

It works now but only in Chrome because I can't do it on Microsoft Edge.

I wish we can see what modules do we have equipped as well.

Edited March 20, 2021 by FrozenRailgun

[DaringDeer 656]

It works in desktop versions of Firefox, Edge, and Opera and should work in Safari.  Each browser's UI may be a bit different for adding bookmarks (e.g. in Firefox field is called Location rather than URL) but I just verified it worked in all I tested.  I have tested in mobile browsers.

[DaringDeer 656]

The only information in the profile about current equipment is hull, turret, and paint.  Unfortunately, there is no info about current drone, hull or turret augments, or modules.

Edge recently underwent a major change from legacy (completely developed by Microsoft) to Chromium-based (same core as Chrome and Opera and others).  I have current, Chromium-based version here (v89.0.774.57 Official build 64-bit) and it worked for me in that.  Perhaps you still have legacy version and it doesn't work there.  Not sure.

[Evert 110]

They should also simply show more stats.. 
And more info of someone garage... 
there is a world of difference of having a dorne 1/20 or 20/20

 

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/6/2020 at 12:39 PM, DieselPlatinum said:

Welp. Time to report this topic for the mega long title, the massive wall of text, and the idiocy of thinking that tinkering with the profiles system will save this game.

 

Also a bonus report for wasting everyone's time and making them lose brain cells.

 

To everyone who read this topic thoroughly, you have my sincerest condolences.

Damn. I forgot how much of a savage I was here.

[wild001 1,422]

I like profile page, only first part of profile page is useful,

like cry and xp part.

actually crystal part not counting container crystals and mission crystal and ad watch crytsal, only battle fund