Manipulated Ultra Containers

[U_S_A_R_M_Y 3]

Could it be possible after recieving certain amounts of rare items in the first 100 containers,, when you buy more you get nothing but drugs.... why when i purchase 200 more UC i recieve only drugs and coin boxes. I swear tanki manipulated the system. Before i use to buy 400 containers literally i recieved everything that came out that day or that i was missing. Why is tanki doing this to players.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Yet another instance of someone mistaking randomness for malice.

Edited November 20, 2020 by ThirdOnion

[U_S_A_R_M_Y 3]

8 minutes ago, ThirdOnion said:

Yet another instance of someone mistaking randomness for malice.

Bro, i promise you its not random, you not understanderstanding what i said. I use to get all the rare items all at once just with the first 100 UC. On my main account when hopper released i brought between 1300 to 1800 uc. And literally recieved 2 rare items. This is not random. They nerfed the amount of rare items you can get. I dont really buy in the game anymore since that happend

[wild001 1,422]

 

worst 15 container open. old times, you get a least a blue level item

what's more, ultra container is no better and sometimes worse than normal container, just supply and crystals.

Edited November 20, 2020 by wild001
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[Potdindy 866]

Randomness is hard to understand for our minds. In basically every RNG game I have seen, people complain about things being rigged. Sometimes random is frustrating, yes, but remember: random =/= uniform

[wolverine848 13,097]

38 minutes ago, U_S_A_R_M_Y said:

Bro, i promise you its not random, you not understanderstanding what i said.

Oh we understand perfectly well what you said.

And even IF they lowered the chances of getting rare items... it's still random.

 

1300 to 1800 UCs ?  ?? ???

It costs 11,250 TK to get 100 Ultra Containers.

To get 1300 containers you'd need 11,250 x 13 = 146,250 TKs.

Are you trying to tell us you spent $1,196 for those containers?

Even if the deal was 2x as good as it is now it would cost $598.      ARE YOU FOR REAL?   

[U_S_A_R_M_Y 3]

Yes man. They for sure nerfed it alot. For consecutive players who buy alot.

[alkyng 3,080]

In my personal opinion I don't prefer to buy containers with real money, also it's forbidden I think in European countries to pay directly for containers or lucky box

Also I don't prefer to accumulate container like 15 or something after a long while.. No I just playing directly and open containers immediately after I get them

@wolverine848 there is a lot of ways to reduce the cost of paying in the Shop maybe up to 300$ (not sure if you can reduce more).. still 300$ something a lot, but less than 1200$

[Iron_Man 2,376]

2 hours ago, wild001 said:

 

worst 15 container open. old times, you get a least a blue level item

what's more, ultra container is no better and sometimes worse than normal container, just supply and crystals.

Pal, now then, let's do some math.

7, 3500 crystal packs= 24,500 crystals

1, 10000 crystal pack= 10,000 crystals

1, 125Double Armour pack= 125*50= 6,250 crystals

4, 125Speed Boost pack= 125*50= 25,000 crystals

1, 125Mines pack= 125*50= 6,250 crystals

1, 125Repair kits pack= 18,750 crystals

So in total you got 34,500 crystals and stuff worth 56,250 crystals, Well, you might something even better. But in my opinion, it is not too bad you know! You do not get 56,250 crystals for free, do you!

 

[wild001 1,422]

3 hours ago, Ironmantonystark said:

Pal, now then, let's do some math.

7, 3500 crystal packs= 24,500 crystals

1, 10000 crystal pack= 10,000 crystals

1, 125Double Armour pack= 125*50= 6,250 crystals

4, 125Speed Boost pack= 125*50= 25,000 crystals

1, 125Mines pack= 125*50= 6,250 crystals

1, 125Repair kits pack= 18,750 crystals

So in total you got 34,500 crystals and stuff worth 56,250 crystals, Well, you might something even better. But in my opinion, it is not too bad you know! You do not get 56,250 crystals for free, do you!

 

 

at legend rank and after, and with free 5000+ each supply+10000 mines and 1M spare crystals.

supplies + crystal are relative low value than the shop suggests, as with challenge and weekly mission and boost weekend funds, most people never run out of supply + crystals.

it is the shot effect / rare paints / coin based augment are the only things actually worth getting, since you can't get them with crystal, even at the end rank of the game.

you save container for the only chance of getting those shop items.

 

last month I opened is like normal case for the past.

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by wild001

[Iron_Man 2,376]

Mr @wild001 well, I did not notice that you were of Legend rank lol! Well, then yeah it indeed is the worst you can get from containers. Well, I suggest that you suggest in Ideas and suggestions to make a system so that in high ranks you get only what you do not have!

[Akame 4,578]

It's only RNG/ aka Luck, nothing more, buying a certain amount does not guarantee a drop, it is all just a chance.

Below is something I've had in the past. (With the boosted chances these were) I can assure you that it isn't manipulated.

[Potdindy 866]

The problem we have here is that ultra containers are tauted as being better than regular but yet they still contain the same bad pulls that containers have

[U_S_A_R_M_Y 3]

4 hours ago, Akame said:

It's only RNG/ aka Luck, nothing more, buying a certain amount does not guarantee a drop, it is all just a chance.

Below is something I've had in the past. (With the boosted chances these were) I can assure you that it isn't manipulated.

It is, wether or not you want to believe but it most likely is

[Akame 4,578]

59 minutes ago, U_S_A_R_M_Y said:

It is, wether or not you want to believe but it most likely is

Well considering I have all items except for paints and 2 skins from ultras, I don't know what to say.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

21 hours ago, U_S_A_R_M_Y said:

I use to get all the rare items all at once just with the first 100 UC. On my main account when hopper released i brought between 1300 to 1800 uc. And literally recieved 2 rare items.

I'm not sure what you mean by "rare items," but do note that once you received a unique item from a container, you can't get it again. So if you got every unique item that you could get from containers (every paint, every augment, every skin, etc) then you would not be able to get any more, because you would have already had them all. So if you "got all the rare items at once" as you claim, there would be no more new items for you to unbox, until some new items were added.

[Okami 3,041]

On 11/20/2020 at 6:25 PM, ThirdOnion said:

I'm not sure what you mean by "rare items," but do note that once you received a unique item from a container, you can't get it again. So if you got every unique item that you could get from containers (every paint, every augment, every skin, etc) then you would not be able to get any more, because you would have already had them all. So if you "got all the rare items at once" as you claim, there would be no more new items for you to unbox, until some new items were added.

Go to his profile. He has 37 paints. I find it very hard to believe that he would have so few paints after opening "1300 to 1800 uc"

[alkyng 3,080]

17 minutes ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

Go to his profile. He has 37 paints. I find it very hard to believe that he would have so few paints after opening "1300 to 1800 uc"

Interesting

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

4 hours ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

Go to his profile. He has 37 paints. I find it very hard to believe that he would have so few paints after opening "1300 to 1800 uc"

He said he bought those ultra containers on his "main account," which I am assuming is not this one.

[Snafu 139]

Be it as it may - we will never know if probability distributions are manipulated or not. It's only as far as you can trust the devs. I don't trust them a bit after all the lies. That's why I don't buy. YMMV.

[Picassoo 191]

I only got common items with my first (and only) 13 UC.

On 11/20/2020 at 5:16 PM, Akame said:

It's only RNG/ aka Luck, nothing more, buying a certain amount does not guarantee a drop, it is all just a chance.

Below is something I've had in the past. (With the boosted chances these were) I can assure you that it isn't manipulated.

The fact that it actually happened to you as well doesn't mean UC aren't manipulated. Yes, they surely use RNG but may at the same time be rigged in other to work on the player's mind. The aim in getting UC is mostly getting OP augments/skins, so people might keep buying them in their frustration to finally get the most sought items.

Some people say UC are worse than regular conts. In my experience it seems to be true.

[Akame 4,578]

9 hours ago, Picassoo said:

 

Some people say UC are worse than regular conts. In my experience it seems to be true.

Well, Ultras did not have any hopper augments apart from AP immunity, atleast true for the last few releases, even though tanki said hopper augments will be included, also they do not have hornet augments, I will not prove this again, proof is sent into the complaint book. So if you wanted hornet augments (apart from AP immunity), you would be better off with regular containers. Ares augments are only available from ultras and not regulars. So what is better for someone may depend on the player and what they have. Also for someone who has almost everything, getting 10 coinboxes in ultras is generally worse than getting a legendary paint or 300k crys in regular conts, Like I said, depends on what the person has obtained and wants.