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13 minutes ago, Aegis said:

Well his idea is exactly about revert changes (he even used the phrase "revert back"). So unless you decided to shift the standard, it is forbidden to be posted in the "ideas and suggestions" section according to the rules.

But he can share his idea anywhere else, including here.

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3 minutes ago, Spy said:

But he can share his idea anywhere else, including here.

You said it. OK, then I will start talking about how ridiculous those status effects are and the way the augments work in the corresponding topics. Although I have zero hope that those stuff will be sent to the Devs. Not to mention whether they will even read it.

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1 minute ago, Aegis said:

You said it. OK, then I will start talking about how ridiculous those status effects are and the way the augments work in the corresponding topics. Although I have zero hope that those stuff will be sent to the Devs. Not to mention whether they will even read it.

Feel free to, as long as you do not violate any rule or go to random topics and post stuff about status effects just for the sake of posting.

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5 hours ago, Ethiaa said:

It would have been simple enough to just remove the MUs from anyone who had the next mk available and refund them the crystals those MUs were worth. If they had used speed ups, that's just life, those people would lose a little. At least the majority would be minimally impacted. This is the worst of all worlds.

The problem would have been that there would be tons of "individual" micro-upgradings, as some would directly MU and use Speed-Ups, others MU to e.g. 5/10 normally and from 6/10 to 10/10 during sales, some MU only during sales, ...

 

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I've just discover that micro upgrades have disapeared with the new update.

Why not, this not my game, nor gamer's game but dev's game, I think we all know that their goal is not to please their audience. So micro upgrades disapearing, I think it is not going the good way but again that's their choice.

The thing is what about all those crystals paid that are disapearing with these micro updates ? I - & many other Tanki players - have some if not a lot of micro updates going on. Loosing 1,2, even to 4/10 or 5/10 micro update why not but 7/10, 8/10 or even 9/10 erased like that is really horrendus & unfair.

Crystals have a money value, what ever the way they have been obtained (money or by hours playing) and you are taking them away from players, I'm sorry but this is like a steal.

We all know devs does not care about what players think, if they are happy or not, be it but taking crystals/money from them is something way to exagerate and I ask devs to give back at least part of the crystals to your players.

I am also asking players to wake up and ask devs to give you back YOUR crystals.

Enough is enough

Players should make their voice heard, if you do not know how there is a universal way to be heard, and they will be forced to listen to you otherwise they will continue to split at your/our faces again & again

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Just now, At_Shin said:

Hey, 

This is where the developers see player complaints. Hence, your topic has been moved here.

Is there another place where I can post it ?

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4 minutes ago, IbnouWalid said:

Is there another place where I can post it ?

You can post your feedback about this update in the V-LOG topic, since the information about the MUs update was discussed there as well. 

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22 minutes ago, T879 said:

The problem would have been that there would be tons of "individual" micro-upgradings, as some would directly MU and use Speed-Ups, others MU to e.g. 5/10 normally and from 6/10 to 10/10 during sales, some MU only during sales, ...

 

I don't see an issue. There is a standard cost to the MUs - just refund the standard cost. It would mean some might benefit slightly if they had used sales, some might be slightly worse off if they had used speed ups. However, everyone would get something back. The way they chose was to make everyone in this situation much worse off, with those who had invested the most hurt the most. That's a poor compromise position.

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Myself (as a degenerate buyer) the latest update wont affect me. But what about the other people who have upgraded their equipment to almost maxed?
This guy PMd me, with an image of almost upgraded equipment. Now his only choice is to buy next modification level, which he has almost already paid for. I think this update should be only applied to new users. 

Context: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797802473451683850/845421931691769876/unknown.png

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18 hours ago, Spy said:

You can share your feedback in the forum and it will be passed to the developers. 

I have done so but please revert back to having MUs

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15 hours ago, Aegis said:

@mastersmokey Notice he said nothing related to "suggestions"? Because it is strictly forbidden to post anything related to "revert changes" there. Good luck having the MU update revert.

oh well....can't help it then they will lose many many longtime players and this game will become OBSOLETE 

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18 hours ago, Spy said:

Suggestions are also being passed to the developers, but we do not accept ideas related to "revert changes" because we would get too many ideas for reverting this update or that update..

Dude please for the sake of your game and your developers and most importantly the players revert back to having MUs!!!!

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2 hours ago, mastersmokey said:

Dude please for the sake of your game and your developers and most importantly the players revert back to having MUs!!!!

Admins and helpers are not responsible for updates, it's up to the developers only.

P.S - Please refrain from using CAPS as it is against the Rules.

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Just realised it is actually going to cost me crystals if I play on several accounts. I'm close to going up a level and if I do, lots of modules will lose me thousands of crystals. So why would I play them? Might as well just park them an open containers on them for weeks/months till they aren't going to get screwed by this update. Who realistically is going to do that? It basically means those accounts are dead to me now so a few more reasons not to play. So silly.

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It's been six months since the developers have been 'Aware' of it. The matchmaking problem. 
I think they don't realize yet how this affects new players. Today I came to know about how newbies play in the new interface of this game, Through the updates of last two years. 
Recruits are put in battle with warrant officers - Corporals with warrant officer 4+, (GS 50 VS GS 3000+), Warrant officers with Marshals or higher (GS 3000 VS GS 8000+)
I see a lot of updates in favor of new players, making the game easy for them, but you people haven't given the slightest concern for this problem in the matchmaking system, even though many players reported it and the reply was 'Developers are aware of it'. That was six months ago. This also gives a little proof for ignorance of complaints in this section of the forum. Who knows these forum moderators be informing developers about serious bugs and imbalances in the game, it'd be sad if these moderators were here just to reply to these complaints. 
By the way, again, a corporal, with Gear score 50 faces a Gear score 3000 player. Of course, I was getting spawn killed :)

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3 hours ago, Ethiaa said:

Just realised it is actually going to cost me crystals if I play on several accounts. I'm close to going up a level and if I do, lots of modules will lose me thousands of crystals. So why would I play them? Might as well just park them an open containers on them for weeks/months till they aren't going to get screwed by this update. Who realistically is going to do that? It basically means those accounts are dead to me now so a few more reasons not to play. So silly.

I've abandoned 3 of my old accounts, Legend, Captain and Major. The new updates basically spawn kills every old player. All we did those days were collect m3s, Now normal mk7s are of no use. Oh well, others can just pump up their crisis drone  and spawn kill. Very op. Balancing it with the 'HARD TO GET' feature of crisis drone, But I was VERY disappointed when I came to know crisis drone was awarded if one bought up their way onto the third planet during an event in April. Literally just ruined it.

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25 minutes ago, OverWorld said:

It's been six months since the developers have been 'Aware' of it. The matchmaking problem.

I see a lot of updates in favor of new players, making the game easy for them, 

They are aware.

The Devs even commented that this "issue" happens when there are few players online.  Rank-spreads widen to make up for fewer players.

Having mis-matches like that is acceptable to lower waiting times.

 

As for this - you have it backward.  New players are hosed.

1) Permanent exp boost means newbies are playing veterans long before they are ready

2) Supplies - you have to have a fully upgraded drone to have full value for supplies.  How many new players have a fully upgraded drone?

3) Modules.  You now have to pay for modules - with TKs. Veteran players only have to pay for 4th module.

4) and as already discussed - the rank-spreads are super wide in MatchMaker.  Teams might be even, but the lower-ranked players in those battles will struggle to score and earn crystals.

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1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

They are aware.

The Devs even commented that this "issue" happens when there are few players online.  Rank-spreads widen to make up for fewer players.

Having mis-matches like that is acceptable to lower waiting times.

 

As for this - you have it backward.  New players are hosed.

1) Permanent exp boost means newbies are playing veterans long before they are ready

2) Supplies - you have to have a fully upgraded drone to have full value for supplies.  How many new players have a fully upgraded drone?

3) Modules.  You now have to pay for modules - with TKs. Veteran players only have to pay for 4th module.

4) and as already discussed - the rank-spreads are super wide in MatchMaker.  Teams might be even, but the lower-ranked players in those battles will struggle to score and earn crystals.

But does that fix the problem that most of my battles consist of high rank players? no.
Well it's really sad when I found out newbies have to pay to equip modules. 
And a notable fact - 'Few players online' The more the devs fix the game, the more the players, the better the matchmaking system. Periodt

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1 hour ago, OverWorld said:

But does that fix the problem that most of my battles consist of high rank players? no.

No it does not - but the Devs don't care.  They hope those low-rankers will spend $ to catch up.

Right now, with all the drones, and expensive augments (many only found in UCs) the Devs are catering to buyers.  The pendulum is no longer balanced in the middle.  I'm surprised ANY new players stick around for more than 1 month.

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On 5/22/2021 at 9:21 AM, Spy said:

Admins and helpers are not responsible for updates, it's up to the developers only.

P.S - Please refrain from using CAPS as it is against the Rules.

ok understood. But as a helper/admin, could u please refer this issue to the developers? I'm very disappointed by the developers' actions recently--making this game more p2w, changing silver tier stuff to become bad,  whereas there are so many op rewards in the golden tier etc. These recent actions by the developers show that they do not care about the players except the p2w ones. 

Plus, this recent MU update is really really ridiculous. Could you please refer this issue to the developers or anyone who is able to revert back to having MUs? For example, I recently created an acc, and upgraded my dictator to mk1-7 then i have to waste crystals buying mk2!! this really aint gonna help anyone and if this issue isnt rectified immediately, I dare say tanki will lose many of their players.

As a helper, I hope that you can actually help the players by listening to them, conveying their feedback to the developers, and working tgt to help this game become better. Honestly, I really love this game and I'm sad to see its downfall because of poor decision making on the developers' part, and their unwillingness to take the players seriously. If @Spyyou can help to convey my feedback and the many many other players who expressed the same view on wanting to have MUs back, you will have my full respect:)

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11 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

They are aware.

The Devs even commented that this "issue" happens when there are few players online.  Rank-spreads widen to make up for fewer players.

Having mis-matches like that is acceptable to lower waiting times.

Also the obvious reason why this happened is because of the developers turning away new players with their silly updates eg removing MUs

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15 hours ago, Ethiaa said:

Just realised it is actually going to cost me crystals if I play on several accounts. I'm close to going up a level and if I do, lots of modules will lose me thousands of crystals. So why would I play them? Might as well just park them an open containers on them for weeks/months till they aren't going to get screwed by this update. Who realistically is going to do that? It basically means those accounts are dead to me now so a few more reasons not to play. So silly.

I know right! I just ranked up my new acc @volcano_carnage to master sergeant really quickly about 1 hr time then i hv to waste so many crystals buying dictator mk2 when i upgraded it to mk1-7. 

Also in my other acc @protanker17 i wasted so many crystals trying to upgrade shaft to mk3-6 cos of the new update which now forces me to upgrade to mk4. Absolutely and utterly ridiculous

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