[Project] Best Hopper Spot in Map

[wild001 1,424]

Hopper is best to reach critical Spot to get better map control:
  * magnum (Adrenaline): great power output when self damaged
  * magnum (Mortar): great at mine enemy base, but hard to turn at tight spot.
  * Gauss: only for long range snipe. not close downward fight, stealth sniping
  * smoky: no tracing and for long range direct fight

(Feel free to add suggestion to add new spot)

Тribute

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****5
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: *** (require 1 OD)

 

Massacre

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: *1
  * Great for hiding:  *1
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: ** (require 1 OD)

 

Highland

  * Map Control: ****4 
* Easy to Move around: *****5
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

 

Wolfenstein

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: ****4 
  * Easy to Move around: **2
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: **2
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3 or 4 (you can slide back to 2nd level for 5 star hide, then back to level 3 for mine enemy base)
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

Brest

  * Map Control: **2
  * Easy to Move around: *1
  * Great for hiding:  *1
  * Spot Safety: **2
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

 

Barda

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: **2
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

Оsа

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

Мagistral

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4 (pretty much no one will notice, great to mine enemy base or stealthly hide there with OD to get home flag back)
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)
 

 

Bobruisk

  * Map Control: *****5
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  *****5
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: ** (no need OD)

 

 

Кungur

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

 

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: *****5
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: *****5
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: ** (need 2 OD, you pro if you can get in 1 OD)

 

Yorkshire

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: **2
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: **2
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: **2
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: **2 (note the rail on top right corner highland)
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

Year 2042

  * Map Control: ****5
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: ***3 (this edge is not for you to stay, it is for jump down directly to enemy flag and OD back behind wall and fly to base, pretty OP spot since there is no hopper in mind when design this map, 10 sec from enemy flag to home, lol)
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

 

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3 or ****5 (for CTF, it is not safe, BEST with Gauss for stealth sniping, for Assult/RGB, it is safest place, BEST with Magnum)
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD jump from the nuke spot)

 

Polygon

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3 to ****4   (railgun, gauss, shaft will shoot you from far right corner if they hate you, if not, it is quite safe on top,4)
  * Easy to Access: ** (need 1 OD jump + side rock up)

 

 

Red Alert

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****5
  * Great for hiding:  *****5
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: ** (require side rock a hill near tip + 1 OD + side move a bit to the house, because, the hill edge SD zone is so close, you need to use hill side tip to do the OD jump spot, but once master, it is OP spot)

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4 (pretty OP spot as you can use edge to hide from opposite fire, use another house to hide shaft snipe)
  * Easy to Access: **** (side rock up hill + 1 OD)

Forest

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (no OD needed, free to move around but not too in the hill end)

 

  * Map Control: *****5
  * Easy to Move around: **2
  * Great for hiding:  *****5
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: *** (need 1 OD after side rock up hill, it is so on top, that base enemy will never notice)

 

Bridges

  * Map Control: *****5
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: ** (2 OD need, or 1 OD if you jump in air to catch nuke box, you can use sign board as 1st step)

 

 

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ***3 (pretty much all angle has incoming range fire)
  * Easy to Access: ** (side rock up just to touch the hill tip + 1 OD + side rock a bit to the roof)
 

 

Aleksandrovsk

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4 (move to edge to hide from opposite fire)
  * Easy to Access: ** (nitro run on the ramp + 1 OD + side rock up a bit)

 

 

Serpuhov (WIP)

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

 

Silence (WIP as I need to be on opposite flag team to better show)

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  ****4 (move to behind side)
  * Spot Safety: ****4 (move to behind side)
  * Easy to Access: *** ( 1 OD + side rock up)

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: *** ( 1 OD + side rock up)

 

 

Sandal

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: **2 (pretty useless spot,  better go attack)
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

 

 

Мolotov

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3, or 4 (as long no enemy on the far platform side, pretty safe to deal flag enemy)
  * Easy to Access: ** (nitro run on ramp + 1 OD + side rock up a bit to roof)

 

Solikamsk

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: **2 (pretty useless unsafe spot, unless you want to ninja style to get home flag back by hiding there with OD ready)
  * Easy to Access: ** (nitro run on ramp + 1 OD + side rock up a bit to roof)

 

 

Sandbox

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: **2
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: ***3 (pretty wasteful unsafe spot for small map, no point to get there unless your team is winning)
  * Easy to Access: *** (1 OD)

 

Edited February 13, 2021 by wild001
update

[wild001 1,424]

Hopper Tactics:

  * Mouse Control + Side way rocking up: enable you to climb side hills.
  * you can switch back to normal keyboard control after rocking up with mouse control
  * most place you can keep yourself from self destruction zone by keep less than 1 hull space from hill edge
  * Mouse control give Hopper moving in any direction, means you save tons of time by no need turn your hull to the direction you travel, and move backward without worry of flipping, + Hopper acceleration and jump, no enemy can catch it once in action, no mention after jumping over the wall.

Edited January 27, 2021 by wild001

[wild001 1,424]

Counter Hopper Tactics:

1. mammoth OD with stun immu, kill Hopper instantly,
  * require hard to get Stun to fight back after hopper flag PD jump
  * hopper OD charger faster, especially when they succeed a flag)
  * (Advantage: there is no way a hopper can escape)
  * (Disadvantage: need support if hopper use magnum to weak your amor first.)

2. hunter OD with stun immu, shut Hopper down.
  * require hard to get Stun to fight back after hopper flag PD jump
  * (Advantage: there is no way a hopper can escape unless they have stun immu)
  * (Disadvantage: if hopper has stun immu, fail)

3. railgun LCR + boost drone (maxed) + hornet OD
  * no need anything
  * (Advantage: one shot hopper even if hopper has Defender drone + AP immu)
  * (Disadvantage: hopper use Lifeguard Drone can still escape, if railgun has bad lucky lowest damage, hopper may survive w AP immu or hopper has 50% rail protection)

4. shaft + boost drone (maxed)
  * require high precision timing skill
  * (Disadvantage: hopper use Lifeguard Drone can still escape)

5. crusade OD + boost drone (maxed)
  * require high precision timing skill
  * (Advantage: even hopper has lifeguard drone, freeze effect will buy team more time)
  * (Disadvantage: hopper with freeze immu and use Lifeguard Drone can still escape with ease)

6. viking OD + Driver drone + dictator friend with Driver drone
  * no need anything
  * (Disadvantage: viking need 3 times more time for OD charge, hard to catchup hopper OD times)

 

Conclusion:
  * your team need both hunter and rail/shaft/crusade to shutdown fast Hopper attack
  * your team need to counter Hopper's stun/lifeguard drone/defender drone all at same time to ensure no hopper escape
  * your team need a Dictator hull to fast up your team OD charge and best with isida to heal if Hopper use magnum to weaken your team from behind wall

  * if you see 2 Hopper on Criss drone, I can only wish you good luck

Edited January 27, 2021 by wild001
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[Tokamak 1,021]

nice views :)
you are going to make new friends with the post 

Edited January 24, 2021 by Tokamak

[E_polypterus 2,374]

Like this a lot, nice work . :)

[Blutaar 1,904]

I dont like camping and I am generally against it, I prefer to face enemies instead. Recently I experimented with RGC and Hopper; I set my barrel to an angle of 0 degrees and blast my shot at tanks from small distances. As Hopper allows me to turn my tank easier it compensates for my lack of horizontal rotation. In most battles I am doing surprisingly well. I do have to admit that this combination appears to be most effective in open spaces: cramped maps do not work well because of the large presence of obstacles/buildings and thus higher chances of self-damaging. 
I hope to be getting AGLM soon enough, so that I can use that augment instead. 

[wild001 1,424]

updated with new map:

• Wolfenstein
• Кungur
• Yorkshire
• Year 2042
• Polygon

[E_polypterus 2,374]

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[sensei_tanker 3,098]

how is that not jump hacking

[wild001 1,424]

On 2/5/2021 at 1:53 AM, sensei_tanker said:

how is that not jump hacking

that is called pure skill with mouse control and overdrive.

anyway, new OP spot added for

* Red Alert
* Forest

[yellowghetto 3,206]

On 1/23/2021 at 11:17 AM, wild001 said:

Hopper is best to reach critical Spot to get better map control:
  * magnum (Adrenaline): great power output when self damaged
  * magnum (Mortar): great at mine enemy base, but hard to turn at tight spot.
  * Gauss: only for long range snipe. not close downward fight, stealth sniping
  * smoky: no tracing and for long range direct fight

(Feel free to add suggestion to add new spot)

Тribute

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****5
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: *** (require 1 OD)

 

Massacre

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: *1
  * Great for hiding:  *1
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: ** (require 1 OD)

 

Highland

  * Map Control: ****4 
* Easy to Move around: *****5
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

 

Wolfenstein

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: ****4 
  * Easy to Move around: **2
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: **2
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3 or 4 (you can slide back to 2nd level for 5 star hide, then back to level 3 for mine enemy base)
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

Brest

  * Map Control: **2
  * Easy to Move around: *1
  * Great for hiding:  *1
  * Spot Safety: **2
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

 

Barda

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: **2
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

Оsа

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

Мagistral

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

Bobruisk

  * Map Control: *****5
  * Easy to Move around: ***3
  * Great for hiding:  *****5
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: ** (no need OD)

 

 

Кungur

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

 

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: *****5
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: *****5
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: ** (need 2 OD, you pro if you can get in 1 OD)

 

Yorkshire

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: **2
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: **2
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: **2
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: **2 (note the rail on top right corner highland)
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD)

 

Year 2042

  * Map Control: ****5
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  **2
  * Spot Safety: ***3 (this edge is not for you to stay, it is for jump down directly to enemy flag and OD back behind wall and fly to base, pretty OP spot since there is no hopper in mind when design this map, 10 sec from enemy flag to home, lol)
  * Easy to Access: **** (no need OD)

 

  * Map Control: ***3
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3 or ****5 (for CTF, it is not safe, BEST with Gauss for stealth sniping, for Assult/RGB, it is safest place, BEST with Magnum)
  * Easy to Access: **** (need 1 OD jump from the nuke spot)

 

Polygon

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ***3
  * Spot Safety: ***3 to ****4   (railgun, gauss, shaft will shoot you from far right corner if they hate you, if not, it is quite safe on top,4)
  * Easy to Access: ** (need 1 OD jump + side rock up)

 

 

Red Alert

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****5
  * Great for hiding:  *****5
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: ** (require side rock a hill near tip + 1 OD + side move a bit to the house, because, the hill edge SD zone is so close, you need to use hill side tip to do the OD jump spot, but once master, it is OP spot)

Forest

  * Map Control: ****4
  * Easy to Move around: ****4
  * Great for hiding:  ****4
  * Spot Safety: ***3
  * Easy to Access: **** (no OD needed, free to move around but not too in the hill end)

 

  * Map Control: *****5
  * Easy to Move around: **2
  * Great for hiding:  *****5
  * Spot Safety: ****4
  * Easy to Access: *** (need 1 OD after side rock up hill, it is so on top, that base enemy will never notice)

 

Dang this post revealed how to climb walls without Hopper's Overdrive. 

If you know how to do it, Agree with this, but don't reveal how to do it :D

If you don't know, put Sad

[wild001 1,424]

added spots and updated spots following maps:

Мagistral
Red Alert
Bridges
Aleksandrovsk
Serpuhov (WIP)
Silence (WIP)
Sandal
Мolotov
Solikamsk
Sandbox

[Albion 16]

On 1/23/2021 at 7:21 PM, wild001 said:

Hopper Tactics:

  * Mouse Control + Side way rocking up: enable you to climb side hills.
  * you can switch back to normal keyboard control after rocking up with mouse control
 

I hate mouse control.  I never thought of switching back when I'd edged up a wall, so thanks for the tip.

[theuwufish101 18]

which is better a mouse a touchpad or a game controller?

[yellowghetto 3,206]

On 7/14/2022 at 11:07 AM, theuwufish101 said:

which is better a mouse a touchpad or a game controller?

Mouse 100%.

Touchpad is cringe, might as well use keyboard.

Game Controller?

[alkyng 3,080]

On 7/14/2022 at 9:07 PM, theuwufish101 said:

which is better a mouse a touchpad or a game controller?

For a huge time, I used to play games like Minecraft and some others with touchpad, and I was doing great with them.  The touchpad with split left-right click buttons (click to enlarge ).  I had great aim with bow, etc.. The only problem I had was I can't do click-spam like in mouse.  When I try to use a real mouse, I was very bad with it.

I was using this in my old lovely dell laptop , through the time and with newer laptop, touchpad become just a single flat piece, and with ghosty mouse while clicking other keyboard keys. For better browsing and daily usage - office and word. But impossible for games.  So I just moved to mouse, and now I can't even use touchpad for 5 minutes. thanks

Edited July 18, 2022 by firety31