invalid Rework for the "Camper" drone

[JustBlackWolf 885]

This is one of the drones that i never see being used, a drone based on being at full HP in the current tanki online actually makes no sense at all, with weapons that can remove you half HP, or even all your HP with a single shot, burning effects that last forever, repair kits that don't remove said effects completely, this drone just doesn't fit. 

The cooldown boost may be good, but i'd like to propose an idea to make this drone a bit more generous in term of what it provides

The cooldown boost should be based on the amount of HP you have, BUT:

currently, it works only if your tank HP is at 100%

Rework idea: make it work above a certain % of HP, instaed of 100% say it would be 60%

effects activates only if the tank's HP is above 60% on a max lvl drone

while it activates only at 100% HP for a lvl 1 drone

This isn't supposed to work like "Adrenaline" the bonus will always be the same, it's just the effect will still be active after losing some HP.

Ironically, the name of this drone fits perfectly what it does, if you camp, you won't take damage, but eh, let's give it a try

[Spy 14,901]

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[alkyng 3,081]

There is a balance between turrets, and this is what the game is meant.

But drones are supposed to not have balance between them, so Brutus 20/20 is weaker than Defender 20/20.

So you don't have to ask for a balance between drones, as they meant to be like this.

And the strongest drones are (Defender - Booster - Crisis). Then in tier 2 (Lifeguard - Saboteur - Blaster). And the weakest drones are (Brutus - Trooper).

[JustBlackWolf 885]

You can't compare Brutus with Defender

Also no, there isn't a balance between turrets, Gauss is one of the most overpowered turrets, basically it's just Thunder but 1000 times better, lol, the  balance of this game was thrown out the window many many years ago, so don't come here telling me that "there is a balance between turrets"

"Drones are supposed to not have balance between them" What the heck are you talking about?

Underpermorming drones are useless, so either they get buffed, or no one will ever use them.

 

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

1 hour ago, asem.harbi said:

But drones are supposed to not have balance between them, so Brutus 20/20 is weaker than Defender 20/20.

I wished this wasn't the truth :(

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 hours ago, JustBlackWolf said:

You can't compare Brutus with Defender

Also no, there isn't a balance between turrets, Gauss is one of the most overpowered turrets, basically it's just Thunder but 1000 times better, lol, the  balance of this game was thrown out the window many many years ago, so don't come here telling me that "there is a balance between turrets"

"Drones are supposed to not have balance between them" What the heck are you talking about?

Underpermorming drones are useless, so either they get buffed, or no one will ever use them.

 

Isn't the cost of a fully upgraded Defender substantially more than cost of fully upgraded brutus?

Players with smaller bank might buy Brutus because it's affordable while Defender is not.

Nothing wrong with having choices - so long as the choices are available to all.  Unlike some augments.

9 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

I wished this wasn't the truth :(

 

[JustBlackWolf 885]

On 2/1/2021 at 7:02 PM, wolverine848 said:

Isn't the cost of a fully upgraded Defender substantially more than cost of fully upgraded brutus?

Players with smaller bank might buy Brutus because it's affordable while Defender is not.

Nothing wrong with having choices - so long as the choices are available to all.  Unlike some augments.

 

i don't really know if the cost of the drones are different for each one

But there i meant compare the two drones based on the things they do

while Brutus improves Damage and Armor by 10%

All the other drones improve it by 5%, but they have additional, even better effects, so upgrading brutus isn't really worth.

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 hours ago, JustBlackWolf said:

i don't really know if the cost of the drones are different for each one

But there i meant compare the two drones based on the things they do

while Brutus improves Damage and Armor by 10%

All the other drones improve it by 5%, but they have additional, even better effect, so upgrading brutus isn't really worth.

 

I understand that.

Brutus costs 1,000 + 500,000 to get to m20

Defender costs 90,000 + 1,000,000 to get to m20

So players with less crystals can still get a drone if they cannot afford the more expensive one.

Though I have to say, I'm surprised the Brutus drone costs 500,000 to MU.  Not sure it's worth that.

[JustBlackWolf 885]

On 2/2/2021 at 1:37 PM, wolverine848 said:

I understand that.

Brutus costs 1,000 + 500,000 to get to m20

Defender costs 90,000 + 1,000,000 to get to m20

So players with less crystals can still get a drone if they cannot afford the more expensive one.

Though I have to say, I'm surprised the Brutus drone costs 500,000 to MU.  Not sure it's worth that.

Also for some reason the additional damage provided by drones does not get increased by DD or viking overdrive, or anything else, which is something that bothers me, and i was tempted to suggest to change that

i guess it's the same with the additionat armor

[EmeraldCat 562]

On 1/31/2021 at 8:22 AM, JustBlackWolf said:

This is one of the drones that i never see being used, a drone based on being at full HP in the current tanki online actually makes no sense at all, with weapons that can remove you half HP, or even all your HP with a single shot, burning effects that last forever, repair kits that don't remove said effects completely, this drone just doesn't fit. 

The cooldown boost may be good, but i'd like to propose an idea to make this drone a bit more generous in term of what it provides

The cooldown boost should be based on the amount of HP you have, BUT:

currently, it works only if your tank HP is at 100%

Rework idea: make it work above a certain % of HP, instaed of 100% say it would be 60%

effects activates only if the tank's HP is above 60% on a max lvl drone

while it activates only at 100% HP for a lvl 1 drone

This isn't supposed to work like "Adrenaline" the bonus will always be the same, it's just the effect will still be active after losing some HP.

Ironically, the name of this drone fits perfectly what it does, if you camp, you won't take damage, but eh, let's give it a try

I agree. I think compared to Defender, Booster, Crisis, Hyperion, Saboteur, and Lifeguard, Camper is quite weak compared to them. However, I think the problem is that drones like the ones I just mentioned are way too overpowered, and Camper might just be fine. I've never seen it in use, maybe I'll go test it out on the Test Servers, but Drones themselves are just too overpowered.

[EmeraldCat 562]

On 2/2/2021 at 6:37 AM, wolverine848 said:

I understand that.

Brutus costs 1,000 + 500,000 to get to m20

Defender costs 90,000 + 1,000,000 to get to m20

So players with less crystals can still get a drone if they cannot afford the more expensive one.

Though I have to say, I'm surprised the Brutus drone costs 500,000 to MU.  Not sure it's worth that.

As a matter of fact, all the drones' upgrade steps combined equal to 1 million. The only price differences are when you buy the actual drone. Not sure why Camper is the second most expensive drone(Tied with 2 others), but it's 1 million for all of them excluding Brutus.

[wolverine848 13,097]

6 minutes ago, Emeraldcat345 said:

As a matter of fact, all the drones' upgrade steps combined equal to 1 million. The only price differences are when you buy the actual drone. Not sure why Camper is the second most expensive drone(Tied with 2 others), but it's 1 million for all of them excluding Brutus.

Brutus step cost is 500,000 not 1,000,000

 

[EmeraldCat 562]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

Brutus step cost is 500,000 not 1,000,000

 

I know, that's what I said. "But 1 million for all of them excluding Brutus."

[wolverine848 13,097]

7 minutes ago, Emeraldcat345 said:

I know, that's what I said. "But 1 million for all of them excluding Brutus."

Sorry - missed that first time and could not edit as my game started.  Your first sentence was... misleading.

[EmeraldCat 562]

Just now, wolverine848 said:

Sorry - missed that first time and could not edit as my game started.  Your first sentence was... misleading.

Ah, it's alright. My bad on my part as well. I saw my mistake with the first sentence, I just relied on the last sentence to fix what I meant.

[alkyng 3,081]

Ok now return to the topic

[Spy 14,901]

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[E_polypterus 2,374]

On 1/31/2021 at 9:52 PM, JustBlackWolf said:

This is one of the drones that i never see being used,

The lesser they’re used, THE BETTER

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

Camper could definitely do with a buff, it is very underused.

This sounds reasonable - however bear in mind how fast Camper can recharge mines and repair kits. With its current functionality available at 60% health it would be overpowered - can lay as many mines as Saboteur and have super fast repair kit recharge while staying on full supplies. I say, have it working at 60% health on 20/20 MU but reduce its mine/repair kit cooldown speed up to 200-300%, or maybe all supplies to that.

[thunderhunter123 741]

When Camper Drone users spawn, they find a place where they won't be able to be shot at.

With this, they can reload their supplies fast and do their defending and attacking while hiding.

 

But I think this idea is also good to have. It can make Camper users more into using the drone. We would be able to use the effect longer.