Future of players with Maxed out accounts?

[Demonic.King 73]

4 hours ago, E_polypterus said:

Take your pc for a walk

I must try that

[DaringDeer 656]

I have everything maxed and virtually all equipment/skins/augments (except 11 paints, 2 ultra container only skins, and Rail EMP), supplies for 2 years of constant Crisis usage, and 8m crystals.  I agree that it would make sense for Tanki to cater to people that are in a similar position because there is likely money in it for them.

I still have some fun playing the game on my own, but the thing I enjoy most with the game is the people I play with while on a discord call who have actually become good friends.  Have tried pro battles (crappy selection when I play), eSports (tournament times are very difficult for UTC-5), being a helper, doing some game-related development, but it's really just the friends on discord that keep me coming back.

@Sylvian I have had a ton of fun the couple times I played in Quirky Events.  I would participate more often but 4-7am my time is difficult.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

3 hours ago, DaringDeer said:

supplies for 2 years of constant Crisis usage,

I imagine somefing like over 1 million supplies or so.

[DaringDeer 656]

40 minutes ago, FrozenRailgun said:

I imagine somefing like over 1 million supplies or so.

Nooooo.  You are constantly earning them from containers or premium and given I have almost everything containers can contain, I think I receive much more supplies and crystals than other people.  I haven't bought any supplies since Black Friday sale.  I think I had DA and DD up to 75k, RK to 55k, and batteries up to 40k at that time.

I got Crisis on 12/3 (almost 4 months using it 90% of time) and since that time I have played 101 hours and used:

RK          DA          DD          SB          Mines       Battery
----------- ----------- ----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
4165        10179       12192       7545        2062        5932

Multiplying those numbers by 3 would give what is needed for me to play 300 hrs/year.  I would probably have to buy some batteries within 2 years with below supplies but it would be close.  All the rest is enough for 4+ years.  At this point there is nothing to do with crystals except buy supplies.

About 1/3 of the time that I am using Crisis I am semi-camping and almost exclusively using DD and occasional RK with the other 2/3 being active engagement.  When I first started using Crisis I was worried about the supply usage but now I have no compunction about using them like a madman.  e.g. swapping DD and DA repeatedly between rail or hammer shots when engaged.

[Akame 4,578]

9 hours ago, DaringDeer said:

Nooooo.  You are constantly earning them from containers or premium and given I have almost everything containers can contain, I think I receive much more supplies and crystals than other people.  I haven't bought any supplies since Black Friday sale.  I think I had DA and DD up to 75k, RK to 55k, and batteries up to 40k at that time.

I got Crisis on 12/3 (almost 4 months using it 90% of time) and since that time I have played 101 hours and used:

RK          DA          DD          SB          Mines       Battery
----------- ----------- ----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
4165        10179       12192       7545        2062        5932

Multiplying those numbers by 3 would give what is needed for me to play 300 hrs/year.  I would probably have to buy some batteries within 2 years with below supplies but it would be close.  All the rest is enough for 4+ years.  At this point there is nothing to do with crystals except buy supplies.

About 1/3 of the time that I am using Crisis I am semi-camping and almost exclusively using DD and occasional RK with the other 2/3 being active engagement.  When I first started using Crisis I was worried about the supply usage but now I have no compunction about using them like a madman.  e.g. swapping DD and DA repeatedly between rail or hammer shots when engaged.

Did you calculate this from the ratings or you have fully kept a count on it? Because ratings does not include bonus supplies used by drones like crisis/booster/defender/mechanic etc.

But yeah, I know that in like an average game you could potentially use like up to 100k crystals worth of supplies, assuming you are on a constant attack and encounter with enemies. The drone supply usage problem will only really hit the f2p players and maybe some who don't have supplies in the 5 digits. But some could also use it as a camping stat, i.e camping with gauss/magnum with max damage without needing to change modes which can be efficient for some people. As for supply usage ratios, usually depends on the game mode, but games like RGB/CTF, SB>DA>DD is generally how it goes in majority of scenarios due to needing speed and armor to cap, although DD may overlap if you are needing to damage players if enemies have the ball/flag, but this is less the case than the latter.

[Knaagdier 48]

On 3/11/2021 at 2:32 PM, Sylvian said:

You wrote: "... Bullying Non buyers in battle isn't much fun since they end up abusing us because i bully them too much with my Railgun EMP augment .  

The fun in games is that you have serious competition, keeping you and your opponent sharp and enjoying the game. Unfortunately, tanki is indeed dominated by paying players like you, who half-sidelined the non-paying players at the start of every game. You no longer have a challenge because you always win and the non-paying players don't because they are no match for the paying players. When money started to dominate tanki, the game started to die. It's dying ever since...

Tip: Start a new account without buying and feel the frustration. You will be looking for another game sooner than you think 

[DaringDeer 656]

10 hours ago, Akame said:

Did you calculate this from the ratings or you have fully kept a count on it? Because ratings does not include bonus supplies used by drones like crisis/booster/defender/mechanic etc.

I didn't know that.  Calculations were from ratings.  So my counts of supplies consumed for DA, DD, SB will be low.  The fact that my stock of supplies has only decreased slightly over the same period means that supplies from containers and premium still almost cover that level of supply consumption.

[Akame 4,578]

47 minutes ago, DaringDeer said:

I didn't know that.  Calculations were from ratings.  So my counts of supplies consumed for DA, DD, SB will be low.  The fact that my stock of supplies has only decreased slightly over the same period means that supplies from containers and premium still almost cover that level of supply consumption.

Yeah, containers, ultra containers, and mission rewards generally can potentially cover up the partial consumptions, if those supplies calculations were from ratings, you need to triple the DD/DA/SB, so in reality over your 4 months of usage;

RK          DA          DD          SB          Mines       Battery
----------- ---------- ----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
4165        32157      36576       22635        2062        5932

But ofcourse there is the assumption of the time used, so maybe if you do use the drone in the next few days or so, take a picture of your garage supplies before, and then after you play a ctf/rgb game, also note down the legnth of game if needed too, since some of these crisis games may end earlier.

But yeah, extended grinds could end up eating around 1k's of sb's and da's a grind, etc.

This is from a long time ago in 2020, pasted and sent to a friend, as you see, 26 batteries worth of games with crisis, and 176 da, 173 dd, 68 sb counted on profile, whilst a staggering 528 da, 519 dd and 204 sb were actually used to complete missions. From 26 mins of games I spent around 1.3k supplies, of which 800+ were not counted on ratings, as for my gain and loss, it's shown for sure.

From my understanding, these missions were most likely CP since the SB usage is very low compared to dd. A great loss no matter what way you look at it, and well, just doesnt hurt people who get a fair bit of supplies from containers and missions and play casually rather than grind. Hence you may see most crisis players not switch modes often.

[Crywolf 3]

Sylvian let me give you the thousand dollar answer,

I have covered it because it is only for your eyes only !

Spoiler

PLAY PARKOUR FIGHT IN IT ! Pretty fun once you join a side

drop millions of mines like me and get in the flex game

[E_polypterus 2,374]

51 minutes ago, RoyaIe said:

drop millions of mines like me and get in the flex gam

disgusting

[Crywolf 3]

9 hours ago, E_polypterus said:

disgusting

Idk why everyone says its disgusting. Mostly the people saying this are the ones that are below poverty rate where they live . There is no shame in fighting polypterus in parkour . It is boring to play MM . I think the disgusting fact are the MM players who play MM straight for 5+ hours . Especially if your account nickname is on the Top 100 Players of Experience Earned and Crystals earned.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

27 minutes ago, RoyaIe said:

Mostly the people saying this are the ones that are below poverty rate where they live

I don’t cuz I don’t have that many mines and don’t wanna waste the amount I got and, I don’t like it   ;—;  But you’re right, if it’s fun to you why not  

Edited March 22, 2021 by E_polypterus

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

The day I fall in love with mines will be the day we can exchange Mines for Shards.

Conversion rate: 1 Mine is converted to 1 Shard.

[Crywolf 3]

7 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

The day I fall in love with mines will be the day we can exchange Mines for Shards.

Conversion rate: 1 Mine is converted to 1 Shard.

Wish i could exchange my DD + DA + SB as i dont need that much...........

I would have over 1 million shards tho.....

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, RoyaIe said:

Wish i could exchange my DD + DA + SB as i dont need that much...........

I would have over 1 million shards tho.....

That would give you at least 6666 Containers :D

Based on my experience on the test server, opening that many containers will take several hours to complete (if you open 15 at a time). You may want to install an auto-clicker app to help out XD

[Crywolf 3]

9 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

That would give you at least 6666 Containers :D

Based on my experience on the test server, opening that many containers will take several hours to complete (if you open 15 at a time). You may want to install an auto-clicker app to help out XD

 

9 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

You may want to install an auto-clicker app to help out XD

How do you think i mine sir ? I aint dropped over 1 million mines by clicking 5 myself.

[Alklines 1,751]

On 3/21/2021 at 7:03 PM, Akame said:

Yeah, containers, ultra containers, and mission rewards generally can potentially cover up the partial consumptions, if those supplies calculations were from ratings, you need to triple the DD/DA/SB, so in reality over your 4 months of usage;

RK          DA          DD          SB          Mines       Battery
----------- ---------- ----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
4165        32157      36576       22635        2062        5932

But ofcourse there is the assumption of the time used, so maybe if you do use the drone in the next few days or so, take a picture of your garage supplies before, and then after you play a ctf/rgb game, also note down the legnth of game if needed too, since some of these crisis games may end earlier.

But yeah, extended grinds could end up eating around 1k's of sb's and da's a grind, etc.

This is from a long time ago in 2020, pasted and sent to a friend, as you see, 26 batteries worth of games with crisis, and 176 da, 173 dd, 68 sb counted on profile, whilst a staggering 528 da, 519 dd and 204 sb were actually used to complete missions. From 26 mins of games I spent around 1.3k supplies, of which 800+ were not counted on ratings, as for my gain and loss, it's shown for sure.

From my understanding, these missions were most likely CP since the SB usage is very low compared to dd. A great loss no matter what way you look at it, and well, just doesnt hurt people who get a fair bit of supplies from containers and missions and play casually rather than grind. Hence you may see most crisis players not switch modes often.

@Akame @DaringDeer

Interesting that you mentioned how much more supplies Crisis uses than you'd think.

I got Crisis 4 days ago, here are my supplies when I got it, and how much I have now (give or take 1000 supplies from weekly and some green/ultra containers)

At this rate, I'll eat through my DA, DD, and SB supplies sooner than I thought D:

Before:                                                                                  Now:

             

Edited April 15, 2021 by Alklines

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

1. Become a leader in the community (e.g. moderator).

2. Create a new account to grind for.

3. Accomplish something in real life. 

Edited April 15, 2021 by sensei_tanker

[Akame 4,578]

1 hour ago, Alklines said:

@Akame @DaringDeer

Interesting that you mentioned how much more supplies Crisis uses than you'd think.

I got Crisis 4 days ago, here are my supplies when I got it, and how much I have now (give or take 1000 supplies from weekly and some green/ultra containers)

At this rate, I'll eat through my DA, DD, and SB supplies sooner than I thought D:

Before:                                                                                  Now:

             

 

Yup, it casually eats supplies, many people do think it's OP, but its very inefficient and not easy to use in many scenarios properly. 

I went thru a similar set of supply usage a few days ago when I had time due to my week off work.

Btw, I also use Hyperion, at maxed it's simple and nice. It isn't as OP as booster/defender/crisis, but is balanced and nice to use at endgame. All supplies on at all times, perfect.

Although, it uses 3 supplies instead of 1. This means 2/3 of any supply is not counted in ratings. This also includes mines and repairs which are consumed x3 but effect of 1 supply. Maybe I will suggest a consumption reduction for those 2 because those 2 items get no cooldown change.

[Alklines 1,751]

5 minutes ago, Akame said:

 

Yup, it casually eats supplies, many people do think it's OP, but its very inefficient and not easy to use in many scenarios properly. 

I went thru a similar set of supply usage a few days ago when I had time due to my week off work.

Btw, I also use Hyperion, at maxed it's simple and nice. It isn't as OP as booster/defender/crisis, but is balanced and nice to use at endgame. All supplies on at all times, perfect.

Although, it uses 3 supplies instead of 1. This means 2/3 of any supply is not counted in ratings. This also includes mines and repairs which are consumed x3 but effect of 1 supply. Maybe I will suggest a consumption reduction for those 2 because those 2 items get no cooldown change.

I have Hyperion fully upgraded but I never use it. Only upgraded it for the heck of it. I'll have to try it out and see if I like it with certain combos, battle modes, and battle positions (offense, mid, defense) Any suggestions regarding that?

[Akame 4,578]

Just now, Alklines said:

I have Hyperion fully upgraded but I never use it. Only upgraded it for the heck of it. I'll have to try it out and see if I like it with certain combos, battle modes, and battle positions (offense, mid, defense) Any suggestions regarding that?

It's simple to use, but I often use it with a specific combo, Hammer AP, Hunter Stun Immunity, AP a player, waste 2 shots on spawn, AP a player, 2nd shot and follows will deal 2k+ damage if u hit them all provided they are AP'd. Combo works perfectly vs Hoppers if you play it well. Can generally work in any mode too, I have seen a fair bit of other players use it too. But do check your consumption, using 15 supplies every 30 or so seconds can sound like a lot since it uses x3 supplies of whatever supply u use

Spoiler

When I use this combo, I aim to annoy Defender drone players and Hoppers if they don't have AP immunity. If they have AP immunity, you also have Hunters OD in this case.

I use stun immunity because getting stunned is very annoying compared to any other status. Here's some information not many know, Using stun immunity against hunters reduces 8 seconds EMP to 5 seconds due, so Hunter OD can feel like a Gauss EMP, if you survive the EMP by using cover/killing the player, then you can resupply up once the cooldown is gone.

[DaringDeer 656]

I have been meaning to see how much I am using in an hour of playing but am a little scared to look.  I enjoy using crisis like a psycho without regard for supplies.

[Akame 4,578]

10 hours ago, DaringDeer said:

I have been meaning to see how much I am using in an hour of playing but am a little scared to look.  I enjoy using crisis like a psycho without regard for supplies.

Tbh looking at usage won't change how you play much, but it's still good to have an idea, mainly because it comes in handy to compare real efficiency of your usage vs output, to help other players understand what it can take to use the drone etc.

Like many say it's OP, I personally think that aside from it's excess speed, the rest isn't anywhere as top notch as defender and booster.

For some players, they can make up the supply loss by just container openings or just doing daily missions etc.

Even if you see the amount you use, it won't really effect your play as much, unless you subconsiously use less supply switches, but that would be more likely more efficient. But it would not stop you from switching to DA when tanking and DD for a counter attack etc, most of this happens instinctively as you would know.

I would like to see a pure CTF usage stat of an hour just to break down batteries consumed and then the rest, ensure to not use ratings to check due to the supplies not being counted correctly but using your garage as a reference.

[Benefactor 6,888]

6 hours ago, Akame said:

Tbh looking at usage won't change how you play much, but it's still good to have an idea, mainly because it comes in handy to compare real efficiency of your usage vs output, to help other players understand what it can take to use the drone etc.

Like many say it's OP, I personally think that aside from it's excess speed, the rest isn't anywhere as top notch as defender and booster.

For some players, they can make up the supply loss by just container openings or just doing daily missions etc.

Even if you see the amount you use, it won't really effect your play as much, unless you subconsiously use less supply switches, but that would be more likely more efficient. But it would not stop you from switching to DA when tanking and DD for a counter attack etc, most of this happens instinctively as you would know.

I would like to see a pure CTF usage stat of an hour just to break down batteries consumed and then the rest, ensure to not use ratings to check due to the supplies not being counted correctly but using your garage as a reference.

They should show a separate stat for supply use through drones.

[DaringDeer 656]

Start of playing                  End of playing

     

I played quite a bit more than I normally would tonight with mix of 90% RGB and CTF.  All games with Crisis except 1 with Booster.  I did open 7 ultra and 14 regular containers so usage was a bit higher.

Supplies Used:

149 batteries
96 RK
1,326 DA
1,792 DD
732 SB
~100 Mines (higher because of container openings)

That's 256,600 crystals of full price supplies and I earned 90,538 crystals.  I wish I had not checked.

 

Edited April 16, 2021 by DaringDeer