Do the devs care

[cosmic666 1,055]

When it comes to TO, do the devs do right by the players. 

Edited March 29, 2021 by cosmic666

[Spy 14,688]

Removed CAPS from the title.

[2shots2kills 2,366]

As a Company, they only care about the profit their product brings. Said product being TO. They care about numbers and statistics, if the game stops being profitable, it gets shut down.

(like TX)

Some companies care about the overall "satisfaction" of their playerbase, to get more profit (a satisfied player is more inclined to spend), but Alternativa has a different approach. It's clear by now that the overall state of the playerbase has no meaning. If they see an opportunity to make more cash, they will take it. (and they seem to prefer making their players unhappy and frustrated, so that they will fall and make a purchase -AKA gamble for containers... this works because most of the players are young and don't understand... they just want quick satisfaction, hoping to find what they want to dominate any battle.. only to get screwed in the next updates)

If we talk about raw profit alone, that way of thinking is not wrong, but it destroys the game quickly and it leads to its downfall, sooner or later.

[thunderhunter123 741]

1 hour ago, cosmic666 said:

When it comes to TO, do the devs do right by the players. 

They do act, and care, on what tankers want/ask for.

But not for everything. Some things are not brought back because the developers don't find it necessary to keep it the way it is.

Also, the developers want to do what's best for their economy.

 

However, if tankers continue to say something is still over-powered and annoying in the game, the developers will change it with due time.

 

Remember when Hornet's Overdrive was too over-powered? And when Defender Drone had 200% Extra Protection from everything for 20-30 seconds?!

The developers changed and made this better because we kept telling them about it.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

I think they do care, but they get confused on the fact that they think all we care is about getting more crystals and not fair/fun gameplay.

or.... maybe they don’t care, bout the old players but more towards new players coz maybe, old players like the old ways? ;—;

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, thunderhunter123 said:

Remember when Hornet's Overdrive was too over-powered?

Yeah... that only took two years to "fix".

[DarkPredator 212]

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[lssimo 1,559]

@2shots2kills 

Good points.

[cosmic666 1,055]

9 hours ago, thunderhunter123 said:

They do act, and care, on what tankers want/ask for.

But not for everything. Some things are not brought back because the developers don't find it necessary to keep it the way it is.

Also, the developers want to do what's best for their economy.

 

However, if tankers continue to say something is still over-powered and annoying in the game, the developers will change it with due time.

 

Remember when Hornet's Overdrive was too over-powered? And when Defender Drone had 200% Extra Protection from everything for 20-30 seconds?!

The developers changed and made this better because we kept telling them about it.

You ever heard of clouded judgement, you have the mother of all storm clouds permanently ingrained into your head.

Nuff sed. 

[alkyng 3,080]

11 hours ago, thunderhunter123 said:

They do act, and care, on what tankers want/ask for.

But not for everything. Some things are not brought back because the developers don't find it necessary to keep it the way it is.

Also, the developers want to do what's best for their economy.

 

However, if tankers continue to say something is still over-powered and annoying in the game, the developers will change it with due time.

 

Remember when Hornet's Overdrive was too over-powered? And when Defender Drone had 200% Extra Protection from everything for 20-30 seconds?!

The developers changed and made this better because we kept telling them about it.

Typical and general speech that everyone can say

Yes I can say this thing for the worst companies also

But come in real, Hornet completed 2 years without a nerf. Hopper is here for around/more 5 months, which is destroyed the game completely. We have never seen a game destroyed like this before, finishing the battles in 2 minutes !

[alkyng 3,080]

Oh also the huge nerf that happened for Gauss splash damage from 20m to 6 needs a real interpretation after 2 years of making this untouched.

So they suddenly today noticed that Gauss doesn't deserve the 20m nor any near number, No they noticed it deserve this huge nerf.    Yesterday I think Gauss deserve the 20m radius, Today I changed my opinion suddenly and I saw it don't deserve even the 6m radius !

But this not for day or two days, it's for a 2 years ! 

[cosmic666 1,055]

7 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

Oh also the huge nerf that happened for Gauss splash damage from 20m to 6 needs a real interpretation after 2 years of making this untouched.

So they suddenly today noticed that Gauss doesn't deserve the 20m nor any near number, No they noticed it deserve this huge nerf.    Yesterday I think Gauss deserve the 20m radius, Today I changed my opinion suddenly and I saw it don't deserve even the 6m radius !

But this not for day or two days, it's for a 2 years ! 

You taken all this in @thunderhunter123 ( chief stormcloud.)

Wake up, give your head a shake and smell the coffee.

@thunderhunter123 Try having a serious think before you post anything concerning the devs, and their ability to put players first without asking for cash.

Your that desperate to be a mod the devs can do no wrong as far as you are concerned. 

What a joke.

[alkyng 3,080]

Just now, cosmic666 said:

You taken all this in @thunderhunter123 ( chief stormcloud.)

Wake up, give your head a shake and smell the coffee.

@thunderhunter123 Try having a serious think before you post anything concerning the devs, and their ability to put players first without asking for cash.

Your that desperate to be a mod the devs can do no wrong as far as you are concerned. 

What a joke.

No no to be honest it's his opinions and I should respect them..

Honestly Thunderhunter is here for more than a year, and he have the same opinions before he become a moderator. So this is his honest opinions..

By the way what I/you should care is only about the written opinions, either if the opinion is written by a moderator or a player.. Honest opinion or just because of the position.. The same answer and the same criticize I will post, without any personal insulting/interrupting.  So what you should care is only about the written opinion, not the personal or the position he is.   And the moderators aren't the presenters of the game like CM Marcus or Developers, nope they're just a normal players. And many moderators admitting about many OPs and some of them criticize it also.. While you will never see this from Marcus or Seymon Kirov.

And again Thunderhunter have the same opinions before he become a moderator, he look for the bright side in everything and this is his opinions.. 

[cosmic666 1,055]

5 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

No no to be honest it's his opinions and I should respect them..

Honestly Thunderhunter is here for more than a year, and he have the same opinions before he become a moderator. So this is his honest opinions..

By the way what I/you should care is only about the written opinions, either if the opinion is written by a moderator or a player.. Honest opinion or just because of the position.. The same answer and the same criticize I will post, without any personal insulting/interrupting.  So what you should care is only about the written opinion, not the personal or the position he is.   And the moderators aren't the presenters of the game like CM Marcus or Developers, nope they're just a normal players. And many moderators admitting about many OPs and some of them criticize it also.. While you will never see this from Marcus or Seymon Kirov.

And again Thunderhunter have the same opinions before he become a moderator, he look for the bright side in everything and this is his opinions.. 

LOL yeah ok np.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

Those who like the game like to see its good points, those who’re bored of the game/ don’t play anymore look for all the bad points. This is not with everyone I mean, with most. 

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

9 hours ago, cosmic666 said:

When it comes to TO, do the devs do right by the players. 

Well....sometimes.


Things we liked/loved (or at least, I liked/loved) from 2020-2021:

• 2020 Buff to Vulcan (Vulcan was trash towards the end of 2019)
• Daily Missions rewarding stars for the Challenge
• Shards
• Freeze Toxic Mix Alteration
• Striker AP Missiles Alteration
• Vulcan Rubberized Rounds Alteration
• New Smoky Alterations (AP Rounds, EMP Rounds, Explosive Rounds, Paralyzing Rounds, Sorted Ammunition, Rubberized Rounds)
• HD Skins
• Easier Special Missions
• Secret Gauss nerf

 

Things we hated/didn't want or need (my opinion at least) from 2020-2021:

• Hull Augments/Heat Immunity
• Conversion of Turret Alterations into Turret Augments
• Making Alterations crazy expensive, just so we can earn them for "free" from containers
• The EMP status effect
• AP Augments for several of the turrets (Ricochet, Hammer, Magnum, Shaft, Gauss)
• Magnum turned into a normal, horizontal spinning turret
• Adrenaline Augment
• Crisis Drone
• "Early Access" Period for new equipment
• Hopper
• Crusader
• Isida damage buff
• Railgun Status Effect Alterations 
• Universal Critical Damage
• Legendary and Exotic rarities for Alterations and Augments
• Armadillo Protection Module
• Animated Paints in the Exotic Rarity (what a waste of a container. I'm already happy with my Electra Paint, I don't need my chances of a cool turret/hull skin to be lowered for a Paint that looks like 2 or 3 other paints)

 

Edited March 30, 2021 by Tanker-Arthur

[cosmic666 1,055]

@E_polypterus WRONG assumption totally.

I still enjoy TO even though it's went down the pan as far as balance is concerned.

I only enjoy it still because i play on my main, which is not affected by their crazy XP boost and also because i now only ever do missions, and then park it up for the remainder.

And i have amassed so much cry i can change daily missions at will until i get what i want. I am fortunate that way, are dailies would probs not get done if they did not suit my new strategy for playing TO. 

 

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

10 hours ago, thunderhunter123 said:

However, if tankers continue to say something is still over-powered and annoying in the game, the developers will change it with due time.

 

Yes, two+ years for Gauss to get a nerf......

And even with the nerf, Gauss is still OP.

Edited March 30, 2021 by Tanker-Arthur

[JustBlackWolf 875]

They perfectly know how broken their game is, they perfectly know it and implement extremely overpowered stuff in the game, to nerf it later on after the players have been money milked.

The cycle repeats with different turrets/items/augments/hulls, i'm afraid that they'll continue adding stuff to the point the game will be completely unplayable, and everyone will leave, that's when the game will completely die.

And i honestly can't wait, such amount of greediness should be punished immediately, i don't understand how they are still managing to keep the ship floating.

 

[Akame 4,578]

It doesn't take a brain to see what's broken in the game. It's all obvious. Now when it comes to trying to fix it. Sometimes they do take an approach they do not have to, and make it worse in the overall effect. I.e turning Hornets OD into AP, but AP status for turret augments, yeah, totally didn't create something broken.

 

[raze_avenger 221]

2 hours ago, Akame said:

It doesn't take a brain to see what's broken in the game. It's all obvious. Now when it comes to trying to fix it. Sometimes they do take an approach they do not have to, and make it worse in the overall effect. I.e turning Hornets OD into AP, but AP status for turret augments, yeah, totally didn't create something broken.

 

Absolutely, giving turrets the ability to destroy armor(ap status) is kinda the wrong move in my opinion. Though the hornet od was very powerful pre ap, i think that it should be an effect unique to the hull. 

Edited March 30, 2021 by raze_avenger

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 minutes ago, raze_avenger said:

Absolutely, giving turrets the ability to destroy armor is kinda the wrong move in my opinion. Though the hornet od was very powerful pre ap, i think that it should be an effect unique to the hull. 

You mean like ... Critical Hits?  or Burning?  or Freezing?   or Stunning?  or ... ... ... 

[raze_avenger 221]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

You mean like ... Critical Hits?  or Burning?  or Freezing?   or Stunning?  or ... ... ... 

I meant ap status lol. Shoulda made it more clear

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 minutes ago, raze_avenger said:

I meant ap status lol. Shoulda made it more clear

I was referring to the uniqueness part...   Now we don't have any of that.  Every turret can do anything.

Talk about homogenizing your game into oblivion.

[raze_avenger 221]

3 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

I was referring to the uniqueness part...   Now we don't have any of that.  Every turret can do anything.

Talk about homogenizing your game into oblivion.

Yeah, now there's stun, emp, and ap rounds which put the hunter's od and hornet's od to shame. What is the purpose of an od if almost all other turrets can copy its effect and basically all hulls have an option of being able to resist that effect?