AP Immunity augments for non-hovering hulls

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

Hi,

According to the "available rewards" section in-game which lists the possible rewards for both Ultra Containers and normal Containers, you can currently get AP Immunity for hovering hulls only (that is Ares, Crusader and Hopper) but not for any other hull. That is for both Ultra Containers, AND normal containers. My personal rewards back this up, as I have received AP Immunity for Ares, but not for any other hull, from normal Containers within the last month - and I have seen others posting about their container rewards, and only seen AP augments for hovering hulls in the last month also.

So my questions are as follows:

1) Are AP augments currently available from Ultra Containers for non-hovering hulls, contrary to what it says in-game in the Containers section?

2) Are AP augments currently available from regular Containers for non-hovering hulls, contrary to what it says in-game in the Containers section?
3) If in either case you can only receive AP augments for hovering hulls - why are these hulls prioritised over others? Many of us prefer to use hulls other than hovering hulls, and don't want to be forced into using them.

Many thanks if you could answer,
Destrotank

Edited March 31, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[kydapoot 570]

That's weird! You're certainly right that AP augments for tracked hulls don't appear in the reward pool for any type of container. I don't have any way of reliably testing if this is actually the case right now or if it's just a graphical thing, so I'll ask some higher-ups what they think.

If it is indeed the case, I don't know why. Some possibilities:

• It's a bug
• Devs simply forgot to add the other AP immunities to the pool when they added the hovering ones
• Tanki wants to entice more users to use hovering hulls
• APs for tracked hulls are being held for battle pass rewards, such as Titan's next month (doesn't seem likely, as other augments appearing in the battle pass are still in containers/ultras)

Edited April 1, 2021 by kydapoot

[alkyng 3,080]

No one doesn't forget

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

1 hour ago, kydapoot said:

That's weird! You're certainly right that AP augments for tracked hulls don't appear in the reward pool for any type of container. I don't have any way of reliably testing if this is actually the case right now or if it's just a graphical thing, so I'll ask some higher-ups what they think.

If it is indeed the case, I don't know why. Some possibilities:

• It's a bug
• Devs simply forgot to add the other AP immunities to the pool when they added the hovering ones
• Tanki wants to entice more users to use hovering hulls
• APs for tracked hulls are being held for battle pass rewards, such as Titan's next month (doesn't seem likely, as other augments appearing in the battle pass are still in containers/ultras)

OK, thanks for the feedback and if you can get more info on that!

Yes it certainly is weird, I noticed this after one of the updates a while ago when I just happened to check the rewards after CongoSpider mentioned they had included Adrenaline augments in regular containers - probably about 4 weeks ago or more, in the update where they also put in the AP Immunities for hovering hulls to regular containers.

I thought I should mention, because if it really is not just a visual bug, it sucks if we can only get AP Immunity for the 3 hovering hulls and not the others.

Thanks anyway, would be glad to hear what they say. At least we have Titan AP Immunity in the battle pass for now anyway.

[wild001 1,424]

I got viking AP in challenge gold reward month back,

now i bought titan AP for this month gold reward.

i think AP is most super powerful one, as it save you from hornet OD and many AP effect,

hover hull are added later, so they all in, and old hull they keep old way

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

14 hours ago, wild001 said:

I got viking AP in challenge gold reward month back,

now i bought titan AP for this month gold reward.

i think AP is most super powerful one, as it save you from hornet OD and many AP effect,

hover hull are added later, so they all in, and old hull they keep old way

Oh yes we get Titan AP Immunity from the challenge this month - but what you say about Viking AP Immunity is what is interesting. Are you saying you got Viking AP Immunity from a container (not Ultra, regular?) in March or late February? If so, that proves that then it is possible to get AP Immunities for non-hovering hulls in containers, currently, despite the visual list of rewards not showing this to be possible. So do let us know :) .

And yes I agree, AP immunity is perhaps the most powerful overall immunity for now (although apparently AP augments are nerfed in today's patch - so that may change).

Edited April 2, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[wild001 1,424]

13 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

March or late February?

In challenge 2-3 month ago, check tanki wiki

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

26 minutes ago, wild001 said:

In challenge 2-3 month ago, check tanki wiki

OK so you got it from the actual guaranteed challenge rewards (Viking AP Immunity was December challenge #2 I believe), and not from a container? Thanks for confirming, I am afraid that is then not relevant to my question - what I am asking if it is currently possible to get AP immunity augments for non-hovering hulls from 1) containers or 2) from ultra containers. According to the container rewards listed in game - it is currently not possible, it only lists AP immunity augments for Hopper/Crusader/Ares - and that has been the case for at least the last month. Yes, obviously these augments can be obtained from battle passes - but from containers?

Edited April 2, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[wild001 1,424]

Yes, container has no ap for old hulls

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

13 hours ago, wild001 said:

Yes, container has no ap for old hulls

Well if that is the case, then I have to ask - why? Why do hovering hulls get them and not tracked hulls? And also, not even from Ultra Containers???

Interestingly, today I again got an AP Immunity for a hovering hull on an alt account from a regular container - AP Immunity for Ares, that is my 2nd AP Immunity between all accounts from regular containers in the last 2 months. So this is again consistent with what it seems to suggest in-game - that they are not available from containers for non-hovering hulls. It seems strange enough if they are only available for hovering hulls from containers - but stranger still if they are not even available from Ultra Containers, considering that you could get all AP Immunities from Ultras 2 months or so ago.

Edited April 2, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[Spy 14,759]

On 4/1/2021 at 4:43 AM, kydapoot said:

APs for tracked hulls are being held for battle pass rewards, such as Titan's next month (doesn't seem likely, as other augments appearing in the battle pass are still in containers/ultras)

I am quite sure this is the reason.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

Thanks so much for re-opening the topic!

@kydapoot Did you manage to get any response? If you were able to get around to asking yet :) , no worries if not.

If not, I think I may take this question to help@tankionline.com, and if so I could share the information here.
 

10 hours ago, Spy said:

I am quite sure this is the reason.

Hmm, it very possibly is - although I feel this would be an illogical step from the developers, considering the fact this means they are literally taking away previously available items from ultra containers (since AP augments for all hulls were previously available on the Legendary tier in Ultras). And we are not just talking about some cosmetic items such as Skins - these are items which are very crucial for gameplay in the present meta. This would mean that players that obtained these augments from ultra containers previously would be at a significant advantage now (since it is reasonably expensive to buy 7 AP immunity augments individually for Tankoins, even for quite a few buyers). At the very least, I think they should remain as a reward on the Legendary tier of ultra containers as previously, if they want to denote them as a more exclusive level of augment.

Also, the strange thing is that if this is true, the developers have chosen to give out AP augments for Hopper, Crusader and Ares not only still in ultra containers - but even in regular Containers as well. Many of us do not want to be forced to play with hovering hulls, so it seems unfair that these hulls get special treatment - and it is very annoying to be effectively forced to use them if very crucial augments are made very difficult to obtain for other hulls - not even available through Ultra Containers.

Because of the fact they are available not only in ultras but also in regular containers makes me think this could be an error, and indeed I am aware of at least one error in container rewards previously. The hull augments for Hornet (or skins, can't remember which) were at one time not obtainable from ultras, but were obtainable from regular containers - and I remember a heavy buyer complaining on the forums about this - that he had to buy regular containers instead of ultras to get these items.

So I think perhaps unless anyone else has any information, I will ask then and share the response I get!

Edited April 5, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[kydapoot 570]

4 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

@kydapoot Did you manage to get any response? If you were able to get around to asking yet :) , no worries if not.

I haven't yet. There was a bit of discussion in the helper discord but no official word.

Also (though I imagine this would be rather unpopular if this turned out to be the reason), there's the possibility you mentioned: they're trying to increase the amount of AP immunities bought directly for 4990 tankoins. It's a much lower value than spending the same amount on containers or ultras, but if that's the only way to obtain them, a few players might bite.

I'm not sure whether to expect an official answer on the matter or not, but I can bump the question on discord again. 

Edited April 6, 2021 by kydapoot

[yellowghetto 3,206]

On 3/31/2021 at 6:43 PM, kydapoot said:

That's weird! You're certainly right that AP augments for tracked hulls don't appear in the reward pool for any type of container. I don't have any way of reliably testing if this is actually the case right now or if it's just a graphical thing, so I'll ask some higher-ups what they think.

If it is indeed the case, I don't know why. Some possibilities:

• It's a bug
• Devs simply forgot to add the other AP immunities to the pool when they added the hovering ones
• Tanki wants to entice more users to use hovering hulls
• APs for tracked hulls are being held for battle pass rewards, such as Titan's next month (doesn't seem likely, as other augments appearing in the battle pass are still in containers/ultras)

Nope they 100% do this on purpose. Like how some XT Skins are not in the Ultra Container pool, or they switch around Exotic prizes. They do it on purpose so it is more rare and gets more people to spend when they come back. Welcome to gacha mechanics. 

[wild001 1,424]

dont count on container, count on luck, as even with one container, you can get top prize.

just the chance is low, so far even other immu you can get from container is rare as well, as they are mixing inside those purple color rewards

out from purple rewards: 100+ paints + 100 shot effect + near 50 turret augment + 70 hull immu augment.

even I already clear and own almost all turret augment, I only manage get 6 of all those container since they are included

 

[Spy 14,759]

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