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36 minutes ago, yoni292 said:

Where do I see the energy I have? I don't see it in the garage nor in the container section.

You can't. It will probably show up either after it will become available from missions too, or it might show up only in the special website.

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3 minutes ago, boboiii said:

When I'm saying that you suck at spending crystals, I mean exactly that. That you don't know how to build your garage right in the early ranks. You want EVERYTHING for cheap, without working hard for it. If that could be possible in real life, well everyone would be a millionaire, but then no one will work anything, nothing will be produced, and rather quickly the world will collapse (ever heard about inflation? You know....it's a thing...and it can be just as bad in a game, as in real life). And what would be the point if everyone could buy everything they want, at an early stage? Everyone would leave, they'd get bored, they are not gonna have anything to strive for. 

How could I possibly not find the game enjoyable when I use overpowered combinations that I worked and planned for for a long time???Why are you even asking this?? Are you trying to say that you would feel miserable if you get stuff that you yourself intentionally worked for? Are you gonna be miserable when you gonna buy a new nice car? Or when you gonna build yourself a nice house???Df you on about??? 

 "Using Tanki mess ups to my advantage", lol: survival of the fittest; if you can't adapt, you die, in the real world or in a game, it's all the same. You sound like you want everything to work in your favor, but that's not how things work.

Yes, this isn't even something to argue about, the exp gain went over the charts in the past months, but in the same time, the crystals gain increased even more, i think by 1 more increment, if i remember well (2x xp and 3x crystals was it?). BUT overall, even tho cry gain went up more than xp, there is also a lot more stuff to buy, so in that regard yes, you are somewhat right, there isn't a cry gain big enough to comfort one's desires, without spending a lot of time in the game or buying; but this brings us to the first paragraph again: you cant have everything you want without hard work.

 

I don't think you get what I'm trying to say here. I never said we should all have maxed out equipment. I never said that we should all get equipment for not working as hard. All I'm asking for is balance. Balance to the gameplay, balance to prices, because current Tanki... this, the game we are all playing right now... is NOT, and I repeat, NOT balanced. "I want EVERYTHING for cheap," no, I want everything balanced, which, in some way, yeah, making everything cheaper. I think you seriously took what I said out of context, because I know what inflation is, I know the damages it will cause, but if you even make items 20% cheaper in a game like Tanki, it is far from even causing a little bit of inflation, because that's how high prices are in this game. Though, you do bring up a really good point "gotta work hard for it," that's how life works. But at least in the real world, the effort you put into your job is quite worth it. The effort one player has to put in to compete with the players at his rank is sooooooo not worth it. I don't think you'll get this since you're a no life Tanki player, probably having a lot of free time on their hands because their mom pays the bills for the basement they're living in, but, most people in the world don't have the actual time to put the amount of effort Tanki is requesting you do in order to compete against players your rank.

"How could I possibly not find the game enjoyable when I use overpowered combinations that I worked and planned for for a long time???"

"Are you trying to say that you would feel miserable if you get stuff that you yourself intentionally worked for? Are you gonna be miserable when you gonna buy a new nice car?"

Let's say that "overpowered combination" is Gauss+EMP with Viking+EMP Immunity with Defender Drone, and we're comparing that to items in the real world)

Well, I would gladly answer that question. If that stuff makes other people suffer, then of course not, I wouldn't dream of it. Why would I want people to see me as an insufferable douchebag? Or, why would I ever plan to make other people suffer? Are you saying you wouldn't mind buying a car that's so loud and disturbs the peace and quiet of the neighborhood? Are you seriously admitting that you're that bad of a person? You're the one here comparing Tanki to reality, and every time I compare what you said to reality, it just makes you sound like an awful person. You never said you weren't selfish. From the sounds of it, you're defending why you get the right to be selfish. That's what I'm getting out of what you're trying to say. While I'm over here speaking on the behalf of all the players who have a hard time spending or gaining crystals, you're over there speaking on the behalf of yourself.

First off, the crystal gain for battles was increased by 2x, and the xp gain for battles was increased by 4x. Not sure where you got 2x xp and 3x crystals from. Second, like I said, the amount of time and effort Tanki wants you to put in the game in order to be equally matched with the others at your rank is super hard. People have to do school, go to work, help out their families, none of which I assume you do, since, you seem to have no complaints. They can't possibly work that hard. So, it would appear that only those who no life the game and those who are buyers are the ones that will be at the top, and for the rest of the other players, will be stuck at the bottom as those at the top will throw rocks at the ones at the bottom. There's also really no middle ground, there's only those players who try to climb up the mountain but end up getting exhausted and falling back down to the bottom. That's pretty much how I see it.

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42 minutes ago, Emeraldcat345 said:

I don't think you get what I'm trying to say here. I never said we should all have maxed out equipment. I never said that we should all get equipment for not working as hard. All I'm asking for is balance. Balance to the gameplay, balance to prices, because current Tanki... this, the game we are all playing right now... is NOT, and I repeat, NOT balanced. "I want EVERYTHING for cheap," no, I want everything balanced, which, in some way, yeah, making everything cheaper. I think you seriously took what I said out of context, because I know what inflation is, I know the damages it will cause, but if you even make items 20% cheaper in a game like Tanki, it is far from even causing a little bit of inflation, because that's how high prices are in this game. Though, you do bring up a really good point "gotta work hard for it," that's how life works. But at least in the real world, the effort you put into your job is quite worth it. The effort one player has to put in to compete with the players at his rank is sooooooo not worth it. I don't think you'll get this since you're a no life Tanki player, probably having a lot of free time on their hands because their mom pays the bills for the basement they're living in, but, most people in the world don't have the actual time to put the amount of effort Tanki is requesting you do in order to compete against players your rank.

"How could I possibly not find the game enjoyable when I use overpowered combinations that I worked and planned for for a long time???"

"Are you trying to say that you would feel miserable if you get stuff that you yourself intentionally worked for? Are you gonna be miserable when you gonna buy a new nice car?"

Let's say that "overpowered combination" is Gauss+EMP with Viking+EMP Immunity with Defender Drone, and we're comparing that to items in the real world)

Well, I would gladly answer that question. If that stuff makes other people suffer, then of course not, I wouldn't dream of it. Why would I want people to see me as an insufferable douchebag? Or, why would I ever plan to make other people suffer? Are you saying you wouldn't mind buying a car that's so loud and disturbs the peace and quiet of the neighborhood? Are you seriously admitting that you're that bad of a person? You're the one here comparing Tanki to reality, and every time I compare what you said to reality, it just makes you sound like an awful person. You never said you weren't selfish. From the sounds of it, you're defending why you get the right to be selfish. That's what I'm getting out of what you're trying to say. While I'm over here speaking on the behalf of all the players who have a hard time spending or gaining crystals, you're over there speaking on the behalf of yourself.

First off, the crystal gain for battles was increased by 2x, and the xp gain for battles was increased by 4x. Not sure where you got 2x xp and 3x crystals from. Second, like I said, the amount of time and effort Tanki wants you to put in the game in order to be equally matched with the others at your rank is super hard. People have to do school, go to work, help out their families, none of which I assume you do, since, you seem to have no complaints. They can't possibly work that hard. So, it would appear that only those who no life the game and those who are buyers are the ones that will be at the top, and for the rest of the other players, will be stuck at the bottom as those at the top will throw rocks at the ones at the bottom. There's also really no middle ground, there's only those players who try to climb up the mountain but end up getting exhausted and falling back down to the bottom. That's pretty much how I see it.

"People have to do school, go to work, help out their families, none of which I assume you do, since, you seem to have no complaints. "

1: I just finished college, at the top of my class (not first, but among them), and currently doing my first year of my master degree.

2: I also have (well, my family) a farm that I always work at/help around whenever needed/I'm free.

3: When I wasn't doing the first or second ones (summer time), i was working at a job, earning my own money

"So, it would appear that only those who no life the game and those who are buyers are the ones that will be at the top"

Over here, you are indeed right: Besides the points mentioned above, I don't have a social life whatsoever (for a number of reasons), therefore, I end up spending all the free time that I have left, in games/movies/anime/listen to a lot of music.

For the second part of your statement, yes, besides no-lifing I can also afford to spend a couple bucks here and there, out of the money that I earned myself (of course, without neglecting necessary stuff like food, clothes, hardware etc., and some savings too), because, after all, we are all buying stuff with TIME and ENERGY; this is the main currency. One can spend 50 hours inside the game to, lets say, earn 1m crystals, or one could spend 2 hours at his job to earn enough money for the same 1m crystals, and still have 48 hours of his time left. Now who is smarter? The one spending 50, or 2 hours for the same result? Now, by all means, in this particular case, it is absolutely NOT fair towards the ones who can't buy either because they are too young to work for their money, or simply had the bad luck to be in a country with poor currency, therefore the shop items/services being too expensive relative to what they can earn. But just like X can buy stuff that Y can't for one of these reasons, the same way Y can buy stuff, stuff that Z on the other side of the world cannot even imagine to get. This is the world in and out of the game/s. Absolutely unfair; unfairness often ruled by things that one cannot control. But while that being the cold, hard reality, you also cannot expect X to give up on things that he can have, just because Y or Z cannot have them. 

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1 hour ago, boboiii said:

Yes, this isn't even something to argue about, the exp gain went over the charts in the past months, but in the same time, the crystals gain increased even more, i think by 1 more increment, if i remember well (2x xp and 3x crystals was it?). BUT overall, even tho cry gain went up more than xp, there is also a lot more stuff to buy, so in that regard yes, you are somewhat right, there isn't a cry gain big enough to comfort one's desires, without spending a lot of time in the game or buying; but this brings us to the first paragraph again: you cant have everything you want without hard work.

Crystal boosts never exceeded the experience boosts.  And when both were doubled, or tripled, or whatever, the gap between crystals and experience grew wider.

And it's not just about crystals.  It's about in-game experience too.  Players were ranked up much faster than their playing experience warranted.  They were not ready to play against mid-rank or even high-rank players that knew the maps, the drops, some team-play and ... how to turn their turret and shoot while moving.

 

But you never did explain how you "only upgraded on 50% sales" and went from m3 to m3+ (Brigadier to General).  With only four 50% sales (on average it was likely even less than that) it would take you > 4 years, since there are about 18 MUs you need 1+ days for.  You spent 4-5 years ranking from Brigadier to General?  NO ONE (but you) DOES THAT.  Has nothing to do with crystal management.

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3 hours ago, Emeraldcat345 said:

Which leads to the problem. Why would anyone start an account just to only use 1 tank combination? It's not much of a bother towards players who make tons of accounts, because they can use separate turrets on separate accounts. But, for example, a new player joins the game, they don't want to put in the work to make multiple accounts for different turrets, so they have no choice but to use 1 turret, 1 hull, and 3 modules. The player is going to end up getting bored before they could even reach Mk5 for their equipment.

What I'm trying to say is, there's no balance here. If you want to have equipment that matches the level of your rank, then you have no choice but to only use 1 tank combination, but then you'd end up getting bored because you're using the same stuff over and over again. If you want to try and enjoy the game more by using different turrets and hulls,  then you can't really compete against the players your rank, because you have a few other turrets and hulls and you can't gain enough crystals to upgrade them all, then the game won't be enjoyable.

And I agree. If you have 1 combinations it works well.

If you want more combinations and want to upgrade all of them, then you fall behind.

And yes, this is a problem for new players because they don't know that they will fall behind...

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22 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Crystal boosts never exceeded the experience boosts.  And when both were doubled, or tripled, or whatever, the gap between crystals and experience grew wider.

And it's not just about crystals.  It's about in-game experience too.  Players were ranked up much faster than their playing experience warranted.  They were not ready to play against mid-rank or even high-rank players that knew the maps, the drops, some team-play and ... how to turn their turret and shoot while moving.

 

But you never did explain how you "only upgraded on 50% sales" and went from m3 to m3+ (Brigadier to General).  With only four 50% sales (on average it was likely even less than that) it would take you > 4 years, since there are about 18 MUs you need 1+ days for.  You spent 4-5 years ranking from Brigadier to General?  NO ONE (but you) DOES THAT.  Has nothing to do with crystal management.

The accounts are 8 years old now. I had a  LOT of sales to take advantage of. And as a matter of fact, as I only focused on one combo, they were often maxed fast, therefore i had YEARS at my disposal to rank up several times untill i could purchase the next level modification, and I also went over several 50% sales without buying anything, because I just didnt had the rank requiered to upgrade, but i still SAVED those crystals, untill the right time, I didn't just wasted them on other mid-level items that would be of no use to me later on. 

Also, regarding the MUs- about half of them, were done without a sale at all, and let me explain. Maxing something out in a 50-70% sale (as they used to be) would cost just as much as MU'ing all the way up (without SU) at full price (it is not the case for drones tho). So here's how it went: whenever there was a sale, ofcourse i MUed 1 step, if available, but untill the next sale, i still had time for one more MU step to be done, so i did it, at full price. So, overall, if you do the math, I actually ended up spending LESS crystals by doing so, rather than doing everything in a 50-70 sale. 

Now, of course, not everyone has that much time at disposal to build their garage like that, nor it is possible anymore with the current exp/cry ratio (yes, like i said, i wasn't certain about the increments when I mentioned them, and since I assume that you are right, that only makes the matters worse for new players, which I never disagreed with). I never said that it is easy, because it is not. But also, it is not impossible to emerge out with a decent equipment.

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9 minutes ago, Viking_Thunder_EN said:

And I agree. If you have 1 combinations it works well.

If you want more combinations and want to upgrade all of them, then you fall behind.

And yes, this is a problem for new players because they don't know that they will fall behind...

They also don't get to experience much of the game by sticking with just 1 combo.

They rank up way too fast and can't afford to "try out" other combos.

B-O-R-I-N-G.

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12 hours ago, boboiii said:

The accounts are 8 years old now. I had a  LOT of sales to take advantage of. And as a matter of fact, as I only focused on one combo, they were often maxed fast, therefore i had YEARS at my disposal to rank up several times untill i could purchase the next level modification, and I also went over several 50% sales without buying anything, because I just didnt had the rank requiered to upgrade, but i still SAVED those crystals, untill the right time, I didn't just wasted them on other mid-level items that would be of no use to me later on. 

Also, regarding the MUs- about half of them, were done without a sale at all, and let me explain. Maxing something out in a 50-70% sale (as they used to be) would cost just as much as MU'ing all the way up (without SU) at full price (it is not the case for drones tho). So here's how it went: whenever there was a sale, ofcourse i MUed 1 step, if available, but untill the next sale, i still had time for one more MU step to be done, so i did it, at full price. So, overall, if you do the math, I actually ended up spending LESS crystals by doing so, rather than doing everything in a 50-70 sale. 

Now, of course, not everyone has that much time at disposal to build their garage like that, nor it is possible anymore with the current exp/cry ratio (yes, like i said, i wasn't certain about the increments when I mentioned them, and since I assume that you are right, that only makes the matters worse for new players, which I never disagreed with). I never said that it is easy, because it is not. But also, it is not impossible to emerge out with a decent equipment.

Although i find your way of doing things hard to believe, giving the huge number of years you are talking about (in a game sense) i do believe if you are very good at managing your accont, then it is possible to do what you claim you have done. The fact still remains that you, regardless how you earn your money are a very big buyer. I wonder if you would have the same outlook about the game if you had no way, financially, to obtain the  stuff you currently have. I had a good account but now it is so far behind the times with all these new things added it would in my opinion only be on a par with a vastly lower rank, even then i would struggle to come top. Looks like to me at least that tanki has taken a turn for the worse and the only way to have a fighting chance is if you have bundles of cash to spend to keep up with the buyers like yourself.

I think tanki has given you buyers a big advantage over other players who cant afford there big priced stuff.

   

 

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20 hours ago, Rutgers said:

Did Tanki announce anywhere how much these new module slots are gonna cost?

It costs 1,000 tankoins in the test server, but it might change once it's officially released.

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14 minutes ago, Spy said:

It costs 1,000 tankoins in the test server, but it might change once it's officially released.

???how much is 1000 tankoins, and what are you going on about 

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Do you know what is better than "IsiDictMech" (about 1000 battle point)

"IsiDictMech" x ( DusselDorf + 2x Enenmy EMP gaus to reset your RK + Non-stop Titan Dome Protection + Team Trickster RK reset) = 1800+ battle points

also my first time reach 990 battle points.

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Hunter Prime isn't crap, I wish more than one of my accounts had it

But I'm still not going to grind for Ultra Containers, chances of good rewards are too low

I opened many groups of 15 on the test server recently and sometimes I didn't even get any Rare containers

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2 hours ago, SporkZilla said:

Hunter Prime isn't crap, I wish more than one of my accounts had it

But I'm still not going to grind for Ultra Containers, chances of good rewards are too low

I opened many groups of 15 on the test server recently and sometimes I didn't even get any Rare containers

Who said Hunter Prime was crap?

More like Hunter HD is crap.  Can't stand it.  Feel embarrassed to equip it, but sometimes I want the OD (along with my Stun immunity).

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28 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Who said Hunter Prime was crap?

More like Hunter HD is crap.  Can't stand it.  Feel embarrassed to equip it, but sometimes I want the OD (along with my Stun immunity).

I think they (wild) said it was crap because they were never going to use it, whereas I thought they were saying it looked crap

I like and dislike bits of Hunter HD, but I slightly like it overall because it retains more of the old Hunter lines / shape than Hunter Ultra, especially at the front

The bit of Hunter HD I really dislike is the curl of the metal track armor at the back

Hunter Prime is my favourite Hunter skin

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10 minutes ago, SporkZilla said:

I think they (wild) said it was crap because they were never going to use it, whereas I thought they were saying it looked crap

I like and dislike bits of Hunter HD, but I slightly like it overall because it retains more of the old Hunter lines / shape than Hunter Ultra, especially at the front

The bit of Hunter HD I really dislike is the curl of the metal track armor at the back

Hunter Prime is my favourite Hunter skin

Hunter HD is way too busy.  And too much chrome.

Looks cheap. Like those wanna-be car-customizers that take a POS honda and add all sorts of ugly after-market junk.

That's the word - Hunter HD looks junky.

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5 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Hunter HD is way too busy.  And too much chrome.

Looks cheap. Like those wanna-be car-customizers that take a POS honda and add all sorts of ugly after-market junk.

That's the word - Hunter HD looks junky.

I think most of unpainted bits on all of the HD Skins are too shiny, so on Hunter HD I would have used the texture for the unpainted bits on the side for all of the unpainted bits

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I really like those space blue parachutes. They bring diversity in parachute colors. I cannot remember if we had the same theme like this for last year's Cosmonautics Day.

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Deep blue sky parachutes is something new to me. Its good to see a blue painted tank next to it as well.

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