v-log Episode 300 of the V-LOG!

[wolverine848 13,097]

9 hours ago, Spy said:

Information regarding the next challenge will be posted soon.

You are losing players every week now.  The ridiculous changes over the past month will accelerate that even more.

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I hope that they will make tankoins in skin container in proportion of getting a free battle pass each times to reward tankers that finished all challenge, then this would be similar to pubg, for example thru the gold tier we could get 1000 tankoins and 500 from the silver tier so it would encourage player to finish all challenge, i have only 4 skins left until this moment.

[Spy 14,687]

59 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

You are losing players every week now.  The ridiculous changes over the past month will accelerate that even more.

"You are"? - Sorry but you make it sound like I am a developer..

[Frylock 1,617]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

You are losing players every week now.  The ridiculous changes over the past month will accelerate that even more.

if you wanna know the developers users they are all Russian there is not an English developer. I mean if you wanna talk to then PM them in the Russian forum and type it in Russian or use google translate to help. XD @Spy is a helper not a developer XD

Edited May 29, 2021 by MysticBlood

[LambSauce 1,884]

37 minutes ago, Spy said:

"You are"? - Sorry but you make it sound like I am a developer..

@wolverine848 is addressing the company. Don't you work for the same company in some capacity?

[LambSauce 1,884]

1 hour ago, numericable said:

I hope that they will make tankoins in skin container in proportion of getting a free battle pass each times to reward tankers that finished all challenge, then this would be similar to pubg, for example thru the gold tier we could get 1000 tankoins and 500 from the silver tier so it would encourage player to finish all challenge, i have only 4 skins left until this moment.

They said that you could get most of the battle pass price back through the gold tier, but this is misleading because it's only if you have ALL skins from skin containers. So it's in effect just another excuse.

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22 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

@wolverine848 is addressing the company. Don't you work for the same company in some capacity?

Spy is just like you and me LambSauce. They are helpers and don't work for the company per se if you mean they are paid a monthly salary.

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24 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

They said that you could get most of the battle pass price back through the gold tier, but this is misleading because it's only if you have ALL skins from skin containers. So it's in effect just another excuse.

Well i think that there will be two ways of earning tks thru battle pass, the first one would be by completing tiers and the second one would be if you own all skins from skin containers

[LambSauce 1,884]

3 minutes ago, brainhoo said:

Spy is just like you and me LambSauce. They are helpers and don't work for the company per se if you mean they are paid a monthly salary.

Of course, but he still represents the devs in some way. Anyway the original point still stands, lexis aside.

1 minute ago, numericable said:

Well i think that there will be two ways of earning tks thru battle pass, the first one would be by completing tiers and the second one would be if you own all skins from skin containers

I'm pretty sure the first method won't give you 1000 Tankoins as the devs said in the V-log. It might even remain at 100 Tankoins but we'll have to see.

Edited May 29, 2021 by LambSauce

[antillis 138]

1 hour ago, Spy said:

"You are"? - Sorry but you make it sound like I am a developer..

You no EXACTLY what he means. Trying to be cute in response to a players post, a intelligent player to be exact, is a typical pro dev childlike response.

You want to add a bit of wit to your post, learn how to do it first. 

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

2 minutes ago, antillis said:

You no EXACTLY what he means. Trying to be cute in response to a players post, a intelligent player to be exact, is a typical pro dev childlike response.

You want to add a bit of wit to your post, learn how to do it first. 

Spy has no control over development and thus saying that "Spy is ruining the game" doesn't make sense. 

Helpers are volunteers. Some of us help on the forum (such as reporters and forum moderators) and others organize in-game events. We are not employed by alternativa, and just like players we do not decide what updates are to be made or released. 

 

[LambSauce 1,884]

6 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Spy has no control over development and thus saying that "Spy is ruining the game" doesn't make sense.

No one said that.

 

6 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Helpers are volunteers. Some of us help on the forum (such as reporters and forum moderators) and others organize in-game events. We are not employed by alternativa, and just like players we do not decide what updates are to be made or released.

@wolverine848 was addressing Alternativa. I know it's a matter of interpretation but of course he isn't putting the blame on any mods. Do you really think he/she is that stupid?

Also why did this become an argument about language used when wolverine's original point still stands?

[antillis 138]

Just now, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Spy has no control over development and thus saying that "Spy is ruining the game" doesn't make sense. 

Helpers are volunteers. Some of us help on the forum (such as reporters and forum moderators) and others organize in-game events. We are not employed by alternativa, and just like players we do not decide what updates are to be made or released. 

 

Understand everything you have said, but he did no were @wolverine848 was coming from and choose to undermine his post with his response.

And @wolverine848 did not accuse spy of ruining the game. Furthermore even though you do not actually WORK for the GAME, you do get in game perks that no doubt help out considerably, this is called payment in kind, so in a loose sense you do get paid, just not in monetary terms, ergo, you work for the game. 

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6 minutes ago, antillis said:

Understand everything you have said, but he did no were @wolverine848 was coming from and choose to undermine his post with his response.

And @wolverine848 did not accuse spy of ruining the game. Furthermore even though you do not actually WORK for the GAME, you do get in game perks that no doubt help out considerably, this is called payment in kind, so in a loose sense you do get paid, just not in monetary terms, ergo, you work for the game. 

Wolverine848, Lambsauce and Antillis.. your sentiments of anger, i can totally empathise. Honestly, after watching vlog 300, my heart sank again ref the impending update to the Challenge. Objectively, i think being upset with the devs for moving this game in the direction of a P2W is futile. After all, it is Alternativa's bottom-line and/or profits that will affect them. Objectively too i see people willing to pay huge amounts of $ to upgrade their tanks. This is a signal to the devs that they are doing something right. (The key indicator is the tank fund giveaway that is happening now)

Channeling this negative energy at the devs won't help. i'm a F2P player inspired by the likes of Riddler_8 (=) trying to see how long I can last not paying. To my paying tanki friends, its not that i can't afford, i'm just wired differently. The walls are closing in and i've accepted that this is happening and will continue to happen.

Perhaps you just need some time to cool off and calm down. Honestly, when MM first launched, i was extremely upset with the devs because MM destroyed communities of friends that i had built up with over pre-MM tanki era. And just like you, I ranted at devs because i lost a ton of online friends.

So the remaining few of us playing here for free should just go with the flow and accept that there will be a time to say that we are thankful for the great time and its time to move on (when that time comes). This I feel we must accept as a plausible possibility in the future if we stay F2P.

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

42 minutes ago, antillis said:

Understand everything you have said, but he did no were @wolverine848 was coming from and choose to undermine his post with his response.

And @wolverine848 did not accuse spy of ruining the game. Furthermore even though you do not actually WORK for the GAME, you do get in game perks that no doubt help out considerably, this is called payment in kind, so in a loose sense you do get paid, just not in monetary terms, ergo, you work for the game. 

Well working for the game means we have a hand in developing Tanki. We're sort of like how you have extracuricullar teachers at school, for example an after-school self-defense instructor. Though compensated for their time, a self-defense instructor who isn't hired by the school technically is not an employee.

43 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

No one said that.

 

@wolverine848 was addressing Alternativa. I know it's a matter of interpretation but of course he isn't putting the blame on any mods. Do you really think he/she is that stupid?

Also why did this become an argument about language used when wolverine's original point still stands?

My apologies on that one then. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, Spy said:

"You are"? - Sorry but you make it sound like I am a developer..

It's like the royal "We"... get it?

[LambSauce 1,884]

8 minutes ago, brainhoo said:

No one is forcing you to play my friend

I agree.

So you like the direction the game is going then?

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Spy has no control over development and thus saying that "Spy is ruining the game" doesn't make sense. 

Helpers are volunteers. Some of us help on the forum (such as reporters and forum moderators) and others organize in-game events. We are not employed by alternativa, and just like players we do not decide what updates are to be made or released. 

 

Stop being so literal.

You (and other "helpers") are the representative of the company to the player base.

You are being obtuse.  In this case I actually mean YOU.

[wolverine848 13,097]

31 minutes ago, brainhoo said:

Wolverine848, Lambsauce and Antillis.. your sentiments of anger, i can totally empathise. Honestly, after watching vlog 300, my heart sank again ref the impending update to the Challenge. Objectively, i think being upset with the devs for moving this game in the direction of a P2W is futile. After all, it is Alternativa's bottom-line and/or profits that will affect them. Objectively too i see people willing to pay huge amounts of $ to upgrade their tanks. This is a signal to the devs that they are doing something right. (The key indicator is the tank fund giveaway that is happening now)

It's short-term gain for long-term pain.

Without a large source of players (ie: F2P) matchMaker won't work.  The rank-spreads will keep getting wider and wider, and more new players will quit out of the frustration of not being able to compete.  Then player base shrinks even more.  it will be a never-ending loop until it's just buyers vs buyers.  How long you think buyers will spend $$ just to break even with the other buyers?

[wolverine848 13,097]

34 minutes ago, brainhoo said:

So the remaining few of us playing here for free should just go with the flow and accept that there will be a time to say that we are thankful for the great time and its time to move on (when that time comes). This I feel we must accept as a plausible possibility in the future if we stay F2P.

LOL - I've already stopped playing.  The changes over the last couple months are ... astoundingly horrible.

[LambSauce 1,884]

34 minutes ago, brainhoo said:

Channeling this negative energy at the devs won't help. i'm a F2P player inspired by the likes of Riddler_8 (=) trying to see how long I can last not paying. To my paying tanki friends, its not that i can't afford, i'm just wired differently. The walls are closing in and i've accepted that this is happening and will continue to happen.

Negative energy? How about honest feedback that the game is actually trash now.

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3 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

It's short-term gain for long-term pain.

Without a large source of players (ie: F2P) matchMaker won't work.  The rank-spreads will keep getting wider and wider, and more new players will quit out of the frustration of not being able to compete.  Then player base shrinks even more.  it will be a never-ending loop until it's just buyers vs buyers.  How long you think buyers will spend $$ just to break even with the other buyers?

yups understand. But think about it. when MM came, the devs were more than happy to sacrifice that large substantial chunk of F2P players. so they will keep tinkering the levels to see how much they can push the boundaries. Every company does that.

[LambSauce 1,884]

1 minute ago, brainhoo said:

yups understand. But think about it. when MM came, the devs were more than happy to sacrifice that large substantial chunk of F2P players. so they will keep tinkering the levels to see how much they can push the boundaries. Every company does that.

When did you first play Tanki? I see on your profile it says you joined the forum in December 2019.

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3 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

Negative energy? How about honest feedback that the game is actually trash now.

Yes honest feedback should be given. The irony about players saying the game is trash now are that they are still playing. Those that considered it to be trash wouldn't even be here.

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Just now, LambSauce said:

When did you first play Tanki? I see on your profile it says you joined the forum in December 2019.

Not sure why it says that but i started around 2016. Pretty sure i was active in the forums by 2017.