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17 minutes ago, Emeraldcat345 said:

How are we to tell if those who gave the app a 5 star aren't actually the developers themselves? I find 4 stars to be highly unlikely.

 

The vast majority aren't one or two stars. I find it unlikely that developers would go ahead and spend lots of time rating their own app with 5 stars.

 

16 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

No one can be the judge of how I spend my free/hobby time.

Well by all means, if you want to do something you don't enjoy that's your decision to make. 

 

15 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

I looked at Google Play reviews... many of those are from established players who mention the year they started.

Not what you are claiming...

Well there's a mix of both too, as far as I can tell.

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1 minute ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

The vast majority aren't one or two stars. I find it unlikely that developers would go ahead and spend lots of time rating their own app with 5 stars.

It seems kinda silly for a developer to rate their own app, until you look at the amount of time they spend making terrible updates.

I think rating their own app to get more people to download it is something they'd do.

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4 minutes ago, Emeraldcat345 said:

It seems kinda silly for a developer to rate their own app, until you look at the amount of time they spend making terrible updates.

I think rating their own app to get more people to download it is something they'd do.

Honestly it seems highly unlikely. You'd have to spend A LOT of time to do it.

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14 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Well by all means, if you want to do something you don't enjoy that's your decision to make. 

I enjoy commenting on the forum.

 

2 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Honestly it seems highly unlikely. You'd have to spend A LOT of time to do it.

There are bots for that.

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1 minute ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Honestly it seems highly unlikely. You'd have to spend A LOT of time to do it.

It's really not that hard to write a review and give a rating.

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4 hours ago, ThirdOnion said:

Those stats are incomplete, they doesn't say how many are multing in MM, how many are playing in PRO Battles, how many are parkouring in Parkour, how many are fighting in Parkour, how many are posing in Parkour and how many are simping in Parkour.

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10 hours ago, Methatron said:
  • 3rd module protection LAST 10 YEARS FOR FREE --> 3rd module protection for 500 IS WRONG!!
  • 4th module protection for 5,000 Tks is wrong!
  • BP for 1,500 TKs IS WRONG!

Don't get me wrong I do agree with you. I think Alternativa did this to discourage using modules as a method to tackle module vs turret issue. And... it was not the right way to solve it.

10 hours ago, Methatron said:

We can quit the game. But we DO like the game. The thing is that updates like this are RUINING our most favorite game. That's why we are mad. That's why we are here using our time to write this; because we still have some of hope that developers realize it before it be too late.

Light buyer here but yes... we seriously need Alternativa to communicate with us or before things goes REALLY pear-shaped.

10 hours ago, Methatron said:

You can NOT see that?! They are ruining the game !! NOT ONLY the costs of those stuff, but also "mechanics" like:

  • Ricochet + Hopper = FLYING HALF OF MAP WITH BOOSTED SPEED
  • Crisis can switch between all drugs in less than 0.5 seconds !! "yeah, (boosted damage) then, I shoot you. instantly (booster armor) and you won't never kill me"
  • Critical Damage is meant to balance Railgun. /// Railgun is the only weapon that its critical damage is over 100%

I don't mind about Hoppers except they cap flags/score goal a bit too fast (and OD need more nerf). Most dudes back in April Fool gold event complained that Hoppers ruined it (their words, not mine), but to me, an 1k crystal box shouldn't be taken too seriously.

 

Crisis: Oh yes, the superpowered drone that can juggle between all manual supplies, and can only be obtained from Exotic UC. I heard a Crisis user said that its switching mode should be hard-locked to 2 seconds, while I suggested get rid off its juggling in exchange of only consuming one additional manual supply.

 

Critical Damage: Same reason that Alternativa did this, to tackle turret vs module issue. Having a mindset of bridging the gap is good, except again, the execution was really terrible. About Railgun, you are close. Its Crit damage deals 1.6k module-piercing damage (Armadillo can mitigate that but again, more paywalls...) with a fairly high chance of scoring crit hit.

 

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7 hours ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

which clearly means that newer players aren't disliking the game that much.

Be interesting to no how many of these new players are old enough to possess a valid credit card.

 

7 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Not a chance I would start a new account now.  Way, way too many disadvantages.

And @wolverine848 imo is being way to kind here.

 

6 hours ago, Emeraldcat345 said:

I think rating their own app to get more people to download it is something they'd do.

I would not put anything past the developers. Greed clouds your judgement unless your a developer for TO, then it's a inbuilt requirement for the job. 

 

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Yesterday and today, all 6 daily missions done; and saved 2 weekly missions (from last week) and claimed them yesterday. Now I got 670 stars (level 9 challenge). So no chance to get 4000 stars... Only if I play 4-5-6-7-8 hours daily. But not wasting time on this crap.

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first thing , expecially for their birthday , they should had at least the grace to WARN about  the biggest 1500tc coins CHANGE  WAY BEFORE  .I dont get it:you earn new players which spare /buy little stuff learning the game .. and "BANG!" you smack that  hard on them ( not mentioning mid-veterans players who got that too) giving that hard pay feeling .
I play since years so i 'm on my feet still  having high tier stuff in garage ,  but i would have dropped instantly otherwise .
They will have to fix it  somehow..
And second thing , like others stated already  , now they should SEPARATE  VERY hardly  Tiers on battles , it's not good for newcomers  ( which becomes "food" , can be fun just for legends  who cannot even turn the damn turret maybe )      , nor for people that would enjoy a nice game with /against people which are skilled enough to offer a proper freetime game .
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And ,3th thing maybe a suggestion::   offer some "FIXED  PRE-MADE PRO BAttles"  in the menu , not letting just people messing with them , MUCH LIKE A NEW MODE on the Menu , and LETTING Do  MISSION ON THOSE (not all maybe just some  pre-determined )  , in the "flavour" of old times  . "Special mission of the day  in that mode " or sort .  People would join them gladly i bet  , giving colours to game and giving some satisfaction to skill chasing players also shortening the span between high and low tiers esily in those.. just saying ..
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3 hours ago, At_Shin said:

I agree, that is why I like the forum too.

I think that a lot of forum members here complain about the game because they still have hope that the game would become better. I cannot imagine why any good player would get angry over a bad update if they simply don't care for the game. And, judging from the comments in this topic and from the old topics of previous updates we do find that players are displeased - because they care and they have hope that the game would improve.

While I understand your point of view, I do not agree with it. Why should angry players not complain about a bad change to the game they love?
Instead of quitting the game, @wolverine848, why not try playing PRO battles with other forum members? Why do we even need to play MM battles at all? (Especially now that there is little incentive to complete a challenge). Why cannot dissatisfied players reject MM battles, why not refuse to complete the updated challenge, etc. and instead play PRO battles to enjoy the game? I recently created a topic to organize such pro battles for forum members. Everyone is welcome to join; the link is here.

My point is, if you don't enjoy MM battles, why not play PRO battles with other forum members - with your preferred maps and settings.

 

All of us hope for the same - the game would release good updates, one day it should be advertised - bringing in more new players. 

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Yea, also there are many player created events and giveaways which doesn't include MM in it..also players get bored of playing the same pro battles and modes like that so the events must be changed once in a while, just a suggestion to you tho ?

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10 hours ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

I'd like to say, moderators have no influence over what happens in the game in regards to updates. Making a good game is something that's much easier to say than do. If you look back at it, lots of players in 2017 talked about how the game was becoming P2W and didn't enjoy it and wished they could go back to 2015. Then in 2019 with the release of EMP salvo, 2017 became the new 2015 and people didn't like 2019. Now, 2021 is the new 2017 and 2019 is the new 2015. 

I didn`t say i am that tipe of old nostalgic player who wants the old tanki and stuff like that
I know the game need to change in a different way, but in my opinion the overdrive update is funny and requires some skills, some alterations/augments are quite technique ( some are overpower without any disadvantages), but the battle time is very short and very competitive now and i can`t talk with strangers random funny stuff, it`s like everyone is antisocial in this game and the worst think that i am not confortable with it is that they overpriced everything in the shop

Why? Because there are not enough players. Why not just try to release something MAJOR good update ( because i didn`t see recent some majors update for a while, there was only: the grafic update from 2012, that balanced in the game from 2013 i think, where every turret/hull algorithm has changed the price with 10x cry ) 

What did i want to tell for you is that they need to do a big change for the game, not bringing back the old 2012 tanki online, to add something original, not to add tanki online 100+ euro bundle event `Tanki fund` and battle passes which are in every game right now, we don`t want the same and the same think, for real this is not Hype for me

 

And i am hoping that this game will be popular how was in the past with 100K+ players online ( again i am not talking about bringing back old updates )

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3 minutes ago, fghjkl54 said:

fun fact i entered test server shop and found that bundle (BP+3 days prem) costs 800 couldn't belive that XD

800 tankoins or 800 euros? Both would not surprise me.

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That mean that if we own all skins we could gain 200 tankoins each challenge if we buy the offer that cost 800 tankoins? -800+1000=200 tks

It would encourage player to get all skins if so.

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9 hours ago, At_Shin said:

Instead of quitting the game, @wolverine848, why not try playing PRO battles with other forum members? Why do we even need to play MM battles at all? (Especially now that there is little incentive to complete a challenge). Why cannot dissatisfied players reject MM battles, why not refuse to complete the updated challenge, etc. and instead play PRO battles to enjoy the game? I recently created a topic to organize such pro battles for forum members. Everyone is welcome to join; the link is here.

My point is, if you don't enjoy MM battles, why not play PRO battles with other forum members - with your preferred maps and settings.

I used to play Pro-battles.  But there not enough battles to make it worth-while.  Almost all players are in MM.

And how would this solve the issue of not enough players in MM to have decent rank-spreads?

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1500 Tk? You kidding me, this is surreal. I was happy that I would get another Battle pass... 1500 tankoins can't pay, unfortunately.

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17 hours ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

If you didn't play the game before, there's no way you could know about many of the things that you listed.

I left the game for a while and returned in 2020.. I had a strong turret/hull upgrades ahead of my rank, but I noticed I die a lot, and get one-shot easily by buyers. I wasn't understand alot about Drones. This is while my experience is above the average player..

New players, if the get wrecked in the battle, they will leave.. They wont care about details. I'm not complaining about nerfing the supplies by half because it seems a huge number, I'm complaining because the I noticed the effect. New players will suffer and die a lot, regardless if they know the reason or not.

When I was newbie, I realized the game is P2W not because I went in Wiki and read about statistics and how the economy (battle fund and expenses). No, I noticed the game is P2W because buyers are wrecking me always!

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10 hours ago, At_Shin said:

I agree, that is why I like the forum too.

I think that a lot of forum members here complain about the game because they still have hope that the game would become better. I cannot imagine why any good player would get angry over a bad update if they simply don't care for the game. And, judging from the comments in this topic and from the old topics of previous updates we do find that players are displeased - because they care and they have hope that the game would improve.

While I understand your point of view, I do not agree with it. Why should angry players not complain about a bad change to the game they love?
Instead of quitting the game, @wolverine848, why not try playing PRO battles with other forum members? Why do we even need to play MM battles at all? (Especially now that there is little incentive to complete a challenge). Why cannot dissatisfied players reject MM battles, why not refuse to complete the updated challenge, etc. and instead play PRO battles to enjoy the game? I recently created a topic to organize such pro battles for forum members. Everyone is welcome to join; the link is here.

My point is, if you don't enjoy MM battles, why not play PRO battles with other forum members - with your preferred maps and settings.

 

All of us hope for the same - the game would release good updates, one day it should be advertised - bringing in more new players. 

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Oh by all means, players should express their sentiments about the game I think. I would argue that a neutral tone would best convey their meaning (as opposed to "YOU SUCK, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE DOING! YOU ARE KILLING THE GAME!"). Indeed, I also suggested this idea of playing pro battles only as opposed to playing MM. 

My point is simple. You have a finite amount of time. You might say you "enjoy watching the game die" but from personal experience, all you're doing is wasting your time. Thus, if the game today is not enjoyable to you move on. You have a finite amount of time and thus should spend it doing the things you enjoy.

6 hours ago, asusss123_romanul said:

I didn`t say i am that tipe of old nostalgic player who wants the old tanki and stuff like that
I know the game need to change in a different way, but in my opinion the overdrive update is funny and requires some skills, some alterations/augments are quite technique ( some are overpower without any disadvantages), but the battle time is very short and very competitive now and i can`t talk with strangers random funny stuff, it`s like everyone is antisocial in this game and the worst think that i am not confortable with it is that they overpriced everything in the shop

Why? Because there are not enough players. Why not just try to release something MAJOR good update ( because i didn`t see recent some majors update for a while, there was only: the grafic update from 2012, that balanced in the game from 2013 i think, where every turret/hull algorithm has changed the price with 10x cry ) 

What did i want to tell for you is that they need to do a big change for the game, not bringing back the old 2012 tanki online, to add something original, not to add tanki online 100+ euro bundle event `Tanki fund` and battle passes which are in every game right now, we don`t want the same and the same think, for real this is not Hype for me

 

And i am hoping that this game will be popular how was in the past with 100K+ players online ( again i am not talking about bringing back old updates )

Well see, a "MAJOR good update" isn't really going to magically fix everything and make players love the game again. You might say "oh but you can remove hull immunities and all thse stun and EMP augments" but this is easier said than done because if they were to be removed, then the developers would have to compensate players which in itself would be a messy thing to have to do, not to mention there might be legalities involved in doing it. Also, it's easier to say "just fix the game" than actually fixing it.

  

22 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

I left the game for a while and returned in 2020.. I had a strong turret/hull upgrades ahead of my rank, but I noticed I die a lot, and get one-shot easily by buyers. I wasn't understand alot about Drones. This is while my experience is above the average player..

New players, if the get wrecked in the battle, they will leave.. They wont care about details. I'm not complaining about nerfing the supplies by half because it seems a huge number, I'm complaining because the I noticed the effect. New players will suffer and die a lot, regardless if they know the reason or not.

When I was newbie, I realized the game is P2W not because I went in Wiki and read about statistics and how the economy (battle fund and expenses). No, I noticed the game is P2W because buyers are wrecking me always!

You still were a returning player. I don't have any alt accounts, but my best guess is that at the lower ranks, overpowered equipment is not particularly common and thus new players wouldn't truly know or understand what happens at higher ranks.

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Doing all missions for 15 days with x2 all weekly missions yiled only 3000 stars.

Now the challenge require us 4000 stars, then we lack 1000 stars.

Not everyone can grind 1000 stars in 2 weeks.

Why not increase the amount of stars we get in daily missions and weekly missions?

You really want us to buy?

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I don't care about the 1500 Tankions for the gold tier because I decided sometime ago to save up to buy the four slot protection module.

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54 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

You still were a returning player. I don't have any alt accounts, but my best guess is that at the lower ranks, overpowered equipment is not particularly common and thus new players wouldn't truly know or understand what happens at higher ranks.

New players rank fast.  They will be playing veterans that DO HAVE "overpowered equipment" before you know it.  Wide rank-spreads from MM will see to that.   I've mentioned this numerous times, but you keep ignoring it for some reason - like it doesn't happen.

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