challenge June Challenge 2021 Part I

[Tokamak 1,021]

19 minutes ago, CLASS-ACT said:

So a F2P will have enough tankoins by the end of the first half of the January 2022 challenge.

Yip got that. So you have to GRIND 267 stars a day for 7 months and 15 days, just to get the gold tier on a challenge that has rewards you want.

What if you see a challenge that looks great but it's only October?

Over 7 months getting ripped to pieces for a challenge,  like that's going to happen.

  and during this 7 months you will be at a disadvantage against buyers.

But  

Edited June 1, 2021 by Tokamak

[jsb 13]

I litterally dont understand this. The golden tier is the same as before the stupid update, litterally the same, exept for the 400 tankoins in total. But thats nothing compared to the price of that ... Bp. Why does tanki make the price 3 times more expensive, while there is no difference between this one and the last one?!? And 4000 stars, now its like before the stars in missions update, with the difference that by then we had to collect 1000 stars by our selves. Now however we have to complete all the missions to get those 3000 stars and we have to collect those 1000 stars again by ourselves. And that only for 15k more cry, 1 day more of premium and 2 more containers?!? This is so unfair and so stupid!!! Haven't they invented calculators in russia yet? Cuz otherwise u could calculate that we have to pay more tankoins and collect more stars for (hardly) nothing. Tanki online, im making plans already to quit ur game, cuz social life is more important, and this is the final step. Bye stupid p2w game. U ruined it urself

[jsb 13]

1 hour ago, thunderhunter123 said:

So, we still get 100 Tankoins from the Free Tier.

For the Gold Tier, we can get 400, but only if we buy it.

If we have all the Skins, then we can get 1000 Tankoins back from each Challenge and from buying the BP.

 

But if we don't have/do any of the above, then we only get 100 Tankoins like before. 

Now we'll need to save Tankoins and only use them for specific Challenges that we can get our favorite equipment in.

tsk, if we have all skins. ye ye ye. those buyers dont need that 1000 tankoins anymore man. and non buyers will never get all skins. and wow, still 100 FREE tankoins from the 'free' tier. well, but with no-lifing the whole day and wasting ur time on a game as well as our money instead of focussing on like school/work. very free man. you can get it very free. and about saving, by the time u see a good challenge, u dont have enough tankoins, and when u spent them, u see a better challenge the next time...

[wolverine848 13,097]

11 hours ago, Marcus said:

And 500 tankoins?

Or in case you have all the skins, 500+500 tankoins?

And if I only have 400Tks right now and don't have close to all the skins?  

[wolverine848 13,097]

14 hours ago, lssimo said:

I haven't done the math but looks like F2Ps can get a good amount of rewards for the same effort as before.

Do the math on how long it will take someone with 400TK to get Gold Tier with new system versus how long with old system.

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, thunderhunter123 said:

So, we still get 100 Tankoins from the Free Tier.

For the Gold Tier, we can get 400, but only if we buy it.

If we have all the Skins, then we can get 1000 Tankoins back from each Challenge and from buying the BP.

 

But if we don't have/do any of the above, then we only get 100 Tankoins like before. 

Now we'll need to save Tankoins and only use them for specific Challenges that we can get our favorite equipment in.

Good luck if your "favorite equipment" is in the next Challenge, or the one after that...

[LambSauce 1,884]

3 hours ago, thunderhunter123 said:

So, we still get 100 Tankoins from the Free Tier.

Not really - now you need 4000 stars instead of 3000.

Almost impossible for the average F2P player to achieve that without some serious grinding because, remember, missions will only get you to about 3000 stars.

[LambSauce 1,884]

6 hours ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Okay, but how does being "honest with myself" change the updates in Tanki? 

There's no benefit in throwing insults around or saying the same thing for months on end. If anything, people generally will pay you less attention because of the way you're saying things. At some point, if you don't enjoy the game move on. I see a lot of people on the forum who are quite dissatisfied with Tanki, will talk about how the game is unplayable and still continue to play the game or check the forum or some combination of these two. I'm not saying you be 100% happy with each update. I know I'm not. But if you're unhappy with most/every update then that's a good sign that you should find some other game to play rather than spend your time on the forum talking about how angry you are.

We're unhappy with the game for actual reasons, you know, it's not like we're just imagining that the game is going in a bad direction.

Get a reality check.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

17 hours ago, alpha_beast said:

they already removed online live count numbers so nobody can see it

https://tankirating.org/online

16 hours ago, lssimo said:

I haven't done the math but looks like F2Ps can get a good amount of rewards for the same effort as before.

Earning 3000 stars under the new challenge system will give free players no Tankoins and fewer crystals and supplies in exchange for three more containers.

 

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

6 hours ago, CLASS-ACT said:

You ask for your money back are another meal and macs would oblige, this is a fact by the way.

And really, unlike TO, macs would not continue to sell bad food (updates) they would soon go out of business, just waiting for the inevitable to happen here in good ol " tanki online"   

 Your post was a bad analogy.

And your sidestepping again, another bad trait that seems to infect mods.

@LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH No offence by the way (I actually think your one of the better mods) but if your going to defend the developers, then accept, as a mod in the front line so to speak, your going to get a lot of flak from unhappy players (customers) about the developers and their constant OTT, unfair updates.

Right, but what is the use of still going to McDonalds day after day, only to ask for a refund? I'm not defending the developers. Nowhere did I say that this update is a good thing. I am asking players who are irritated with their every update (such as you) why they play Tanki.

 

6 hours ago, Methatron said:

We obviously can quit playing the game. But it is due poor and mediocre updates, which the unique objective is increasing the gap between F2P and P2W players.

You can NOT understeand the most simply thing; If the major part of the players are MAD, is because someone is NOT doing fine their work.

We can quit the game. But we DO like the game. The thing is that updates like this are RUINING our most favorite game. That's why we are mad. That's why we are here using our time to write this; because we still have some of hope that developers realize it before it be too late.

• 3rd module protection LAST 10 YEARS FOR FREE --> 3rd module protection for 500 IS WRONG!!
• 4th module protection for 5,000 Tks is wrong!
• BP for 1,500 TKs IS WRONG!

You can NOT see that?! They are ruining the game !! NOT ONLY the costs of those stuff, but also "mechanics" like:

• Ricochet + Hopper = FLYING HALF OF MAP WITH BOOSTED SPEED
• Crisis can switch between all druggs in less that 0.5 seconds !! "yeah, (boosted damage) then, I shoot you. instantly (booster armor) and you won't never kill me"
• Critical Damage is meant to balance Railgun. /// Railgun is the only weapon that its critical damage is over 100%

They DO NOT want to balance REAL necessary things, they are making this game more P2W than ever, they are making things more difficult than ever for new players... Dude, they are killing the game. Open your eyes. Don't be blind. Is harmful for us seeing how a game that was super good in 2010-2012, a game that was part of our childhood, is ending like simply one more unfair P2W game like almost all modern mobile games... 

The people on the forum aren't the majority of the playerbase though. For example, you could also look purely at googleplay reviews and based on that conclude that lots of people think the game is great. Yes, the good old Tanki was fun, I agree. I also loved the days when the most complicated thing in the game was which paint protects you against which turret. But, with time things change and the change doesn't have to be only for the better. The only reason these things are wrong to players is because they're used to a different and older Tanki. Well, that Tanki is gone. It's not coming back. No amount of wishing for it to come back can bring it back either. My point is, if you love that Tanki and not this new one, and if you don't like any of the new updates, then move on.

  

5 hours ago, asusss123_romanul said:

If you want us to don`t be angry at the moderators because of the updates, just make a good funny game, without 500+ euro bundles every day and then promote it ( i know you need donations to had 500+ euro vacantions on Hawaii and McDonals islands because i don`t know how much 0.1% from the profit you invested to the game, but because i love your work i am free to pay only 10 euro per month for the bundels because with the rest of the money i bought food, Snikers and Anime Girls and if you make a good game, more people will buy 10 euro bundles and you will make more profit and everyone will be happy xD)

It is just so simple  

And a small tip: Just don`t try to make this game for children`s, they will prefer to play Fortnite and cancer like that, you can`t manipulated them.

 

Oh and i forgot. I can`t play a different game because the other games like cs:go, had a toxic comunity and i am bad at that game but at tanki online i am like Global Elite Face It level 10

I'd like to say, moderators have no influence over what happens in the game in regards to updates. Making a good game is something that's much easier to say than do. If you look back at it, lots of players in 2017 talked about how the game was becoming P2W and didn't enjoy it and wished they could go back to 2015. Then in 2019 with the release of EMP salvo, 2017 became the new 2015 and people didn't like 2019. Now, 2021 is the new 2017 and 2019 is the new 2015. 

5 hours ago, asusss123_romanul said:

If you take like that, we won`t go at the other restaurants because i am allergic at something that McDonalds doesn`t had it and it is inevitable to go at the same place
For example i don`t like to play cs:go because it has a toxic comunity and it is hard to be pro at it, but at Tanki, if i played this game for 8 years i am very good at it and i can play at eSports

I just can`t change the game. It`s like i losed 8 years of my life for this

Yes you spent 8 years of your life. I know that's a long time, but this is the sunk cost fallacy. You don't need to keep playing if you don't enjoy the game.

  

4 hours ago, Neebiru said:

@LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATHI'm able to have feelings. Don't act as if that was a disadvantage. Being angry is part of being human. That's why we are different from AI. We can feel satisfaction, dissatisfaction, and a bunch of other feelings. When they do something I'm happy about, I'm dissatisfied, angry, not pleased at all. That's how life works. 

I'm not. Being angry is great, but then you try to determine why it is you are angry, and decide if there's something you can do it. In this situation, your anger stems from Tanki's updates, however there's absolutely nothing you can do that will change them.

 

35 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

We're unhappy with the game for actual reasons, you know, it's not like we're just imagining that the game is going in a bad direction.

Get a reality check.

I never said you were imagining the game is going in a bad direction. I simply said, if you don't enjoy the majority of the updates of a game then just quit.

To be clear, I'm not saying "if you don't like it, move on" just to say "suck it up." I've been where some of you are. I played a game once, which I too greatly enjoyed. Then it changed to the point where all I did was go ahead and complain on the forum about how very much I don't like playing the game, and I still continued playing the game. I spent 2 years on it and though that's not very long, it was a lot of wasted time which I didn't want to go down the drain. Ultimately though, I had enough and just completely cut it off. No visiting said game's forum, facebook page, homepage. I uninstalled the game from all my devices. I was, without a doubt, MUCH happier for it because I was no longer doing something I don't enjoy. It was hard for me to actually leave it, and I can only imagine that if some of you who've been playing for 8 years decide to leave it will not be an easy task. I know it would be nice if Tanki just went back to being that simple game from 2017, but the fact is that's not happening. So, don't make the same mistake that I did and move on if you don't enjoy the game.

 

[LambSauce 1,884]

5 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Right, but what is the use of still going to McDonalds day after day, only to ask for a refund? I'm not defending the developers. Nowhere did I say that this update is a good thing. I am asking players who are irritated with their every update (such as you) why they play Tanki.

 

The people on the forum aren't the majority of the playerbase though. For example, you could also look purely at googleplay reviews and based on that conclude that lots of people think the game is great. Yes, the good old Tanki was fun, I agree. I also loved the days when the most complicated thing in the game was which paint protects you against which turret. But, with time things change and the change doesn't have to be only for the better. The only reason these things are wrong to players is because they're used to a different and older Tanki. Well, that Tanki is gone. It's not coming back. No amount of wishing for it to come back can bring it back either. My point is, if you love that Tanki and not this new one, and if you don't like any of the new updates, then move on.

  

I'd like to say, moderators have no influence over what happens in the game in regards to updates. Making a good game is something that's much easier to say than do. If you look back at it, lots of players in 2017 talked about how the game was becoming P2W and didn't enjoy it and wished they could go back to 2015. Then in 2019 with the release of EMP salvo, 2017 became the new 2015 and people didn't like 2019. Now, 2021 is the new 2017 and 2019 is the new 2015. 

Yes you spent 8 years of your life. I know that's a long time, but this is the sunk cost fallacy. You don't need to keep playing if you don't enjoy the game.

  

I never said you were imagining the game is going in a bad direction. I simply said, if you don't enjoy the majority of the updates of a game then just quit.

To be clear, I'm not saying "if you don't like it, move on" just to say "suck it up." I've been where some of you are. I played a game once, which I too greatly enjoyed. Then it changed to the point where all I did was go ahead and complain on the forum about how very much I don't like playing the game, and I still continued playing the game. I spent 2 years on it and though that's not very long, it was a lot of wasted time which I didn't want to go down the drain. Ultimately though, I had enough and just completely cut it off. No visiting said game's forum, facebook page, homepage. I uninstalled the game from all my devices. I was, without a doubt, MUCH happier for it because I was no longer doing something I don't enjoy. It was hard for me to actually leave it, and I can only imagine that if some of you who've been playing for 8 years decide to leave it will not be an easy task. I know it would be nice if Tanki just went back to being that simple game from 2017, but the fact is that's not happening. So, don't make the same mistake that I did and move on if you don't enjoy the game.

 

You keep saying "why don't you just quit" but how do you know who's quit and who hasn't?

I for one know that @wolverine848 stated that he's stopped playing on his accounts for a few weeks now. I also personally only play for missions and I know that others are doing likewise.

There's a difference between being active on the forum and playing the game - I enjoy the forum's community and enjoy chatting with the other forum users, discussing Tanki-related things and non-Tanki topics as well.

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 minute ago, LambSauce said:

You keep saying "why don't you just quit" but how do you know who's quit and who hasn't?

I for one know that @wolverine848 stated that he's stopped playing on his accounts for a few weeks now. I also personally only play for missions and I know that others are doing likewise.

There's a difference between being active on the forum and playing the game - I enjoy the forum's community and enjoy chatting with the other forum users, discussing Tanki-related things and non-Tanki topics as well.

 

Quite the salesman ... "if you don't like it, just leave."   LOL

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

2 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

You keep saying "why don't you just quit" but how do you know who's quit and who hasn't?

I for one know that @wolverine848 stated that he's stopped playing on his accounts for a few weeks now. I also personally only play for missions and I know that others are doing likewise.

There's a difference between being active on the forum and playing the game - I enjoy the forum's community and enjoy chatting with the other forum users, discussing Tanki-related things and non-Tanki topics as well.

 

Well I'm assuming that if you're still on the forum, then the game's still in your mind even at the back. Well, if you've quit the game, then it shouldn't really matter what happens to the game I would say. Otherwise, you haven't actually quit the game. I do agree on that distinction though.

Just now, wolverine848 said:

Quite the salesman ... "if you don't like it, just leave."   LOL

It's your free time. Why spend it doing something you don't enjoy doing?

[wolverine848 13,097]

14 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

The only reason these things are wrong to players is because they're used to a different and older Tanki.

This is complete hogwash.

Things can change and actually be good.

But MANY of the changes over the past year have not been good for a large portion of the playerbase.  THAT is why we complain on the Forum.

[EmeraldCat 562]

I'm someone who plays the game in hopes that things will turn around. Will this game start making actually good updates and not get shutdown? Or will it get shutdown?

I'm basically gambling my time and effort.

[wolverine848 13,097]

3 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

It's your free time. Why spend it doing something you don't enjoy doing?

I enjoy discussing how the Devs are shooting themselves in the foot.

Plus, there's always hope they will open their eyes and see how many players have left the game, and realize they have made a huge mistake.  Not high hopes - but hopes nonetheless.

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

This is complete hogwash.

Things can change and actually be good.

But MANY of the changes over the past year have not been good for a large portion of the playerbase.  THAT is why we complain on the Forum.

What I mean is, imagine you started playing in say April 2021. You wouldn't likely be aware of what Tanki was in 2015 or 2017 and so would not be particularly likely to dislike the game. Take a look at google play reviews.

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

Just now, wolverine848 said:

I enjoy discussing how the Devs are shooting themselves in the foot.

Plus, there's always hope they will open their eyes and see how many players have left the game, and realize they have made a huge mistake.  Not high hopes - but hopes nonetheless.

Wouldn't you like to spend that time doing something like playing a different game you enjoy more though? I mean, I would. If you've stopped playing the game, then the updates really don't concern you. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

Just now, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

What I mean is, imagine you started playing in say April 2021. You wouldn't likely be aware of what Tanki was in 2015 or 2017 and so would not be particularly likely to dislike the game. Take a look at google play reviews.

If I started playing in April 2021 I'd quit by end of May 2021 out of frustration.

TO has made it almost impossible for new players to succeed.

- ranking way too fast - playing veterans long before it's time

- super-wide rank-spreads mean low rankers getting destroyed by high rankers

- supplies are not effective because I don't have an upgraded drone

- need to buy module slots with TKs?

- 1500 TK to get gold Tier for Challenge?  That's 13 Challenges of grinding before being able to get rewarded with anything significant.

The list goes on

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

Just now, wolverine848 said:

If I started playing in April 2021 I'd quit by end of May 2021 out of frustration.

TO has made it almost impossible for new players to succeed.

- ranking way too fast - playing veterans long before it's time

- super-wide rank-spreads mean low rankers getting destroyed by high rankers

- supplies are not effective because I don't have an upgraded drone

- need to buy module slots with TKs?

- 1500 TK to get gold Tier for Challenge?  That's 13 Challenges of grinding before being able to get rewarded with anything significant.

The list goes on

Quite possibly, but for example most of the reviews for TO are positive on the google play store, which clearly means that newer players aren't disliking the game that much. Anytime someone dislikes something, they go out of their way to tell people. I don't believe it's the case that reviews are censored or such.

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Quite possibly, but for example most of the reviews for TO are positive on the google play store, which clearly means that newer players aren't disliking the game that much. Anytime someone dislikes something, they go out of their way to tell people. I don't believe it's the case that reviews are censored or such.

Well your decreasing player-base says a different story.  Why do you think there are constant complaints about getting stuck playing with Legends?  Because... MM needs to do that due to fewer players.

And I wonder how many of those "positive" reviews are from buyers who can bypass many of the disadvantages F2P tankers suffer.

Not a chance I would start a new account now.  Way, way too many disadvantages.

TRUSTPILOT - 69% rate it as "Bad".

Edited June 1, 2021 by wolverine848

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

Well your decreasing player-base says a different story.  Why do you think there are constant complaints about getting stuck playing with Legends?  Because... MM needs to do that due to fewer players.

And I wonder how many of those "positive" reviews are from buyers who can bypass many of the disadvantages F2P tankers suffer.

Not a chance I would start a new account now.  Way, way too many disadvantages.

I suppose that's fair, but how would you even know not to start? If you didn't play the game before, there's no way you could know about many of the things that you listed.

[EmeraldCat 562]

5 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

Quite possibly, but for example most of the reviews for TO are positive on the google play store, which clearly means that newer players aren't disliking the game that much. Anytime someone dislikes something, they go out of their way to tell people. I don't believe it's the case that reviews are censored or such.

How are we to tell if those who gave the app a 5 star aren't actually the developers themselves? I find 4 stars to be highly unlikely.

 

[LambSauce 1,884]

19 minutes ago, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

It's your free time. Why spend it doing something you don't enjoy doing?

No one can be the judge of how I spend my free/hobby time.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Just now, LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH said:

I suppose that's fair, but how would you even know not to start? If you didn't play the game before, there's no way you could know about many of the things that you listed.

I looked at Google Play reviews... many of those are from established players who mention the year they started.

Not what you are claiming...