challenge June Challenge II

[cdiddy2000 48]

Another disappointing June Challenge... Why is Battlepass still at 3 x what it used to cost (1500 now and was 500)?

WHy 4000 stars still instead of the usual 3000? 

WHY are the gold tier prizes always repeated or low use, not intersting anymore?

And also they said there were 1000 Tankoins in today's  post about the June Challenge II where they want you to consider buying stars if you are falling behind!?

No there are only 500 you win back... not 1000.

The 1500 Tankoins NOT worth Gold Tier battle pass.

 

Always increasing prices and lowering reward value and usefulness.

I did also buy 250 Ultra Containers this weekend, and I keep a log of all the TOP rewards I win... and for some reason the increased chances for top rewards did NOT get put into place for the weekend 250 Ultras.

It was clear they did not activate that algorithm so that more top rewards would drop. My list is clear and it was less than half from the previous WINNER lot of 300 Ultra Containers with the chances increased. By comparing both and watching the drop rewards from all levels of scarcity... it is clear that the '''your chances are better'' that was advertised was not active.

If the forum is the place to voice our thoughts and feelings, then these are them. I hope that the developers and whoever makes these decisions will listen to players who are in fact customers.  

Please to the devs to put back Gold Tier to 500 Tankoins and 3000 stars as it always was. many people now will not buy because of this increase.

How else are we to communicate our feedback to you other than in here? 7 years I have been in this game and watched numerous changes that I see as unfair and more of a greedy move, yet no one listens to customers in this platform. Hope that this may change...

 

 

  

[cdiddy2000 48]

On 6/17/2021 at 12:51 PM, Spy said:

That's not a lie, you can earn 1,000 tankoins if you obtained all skins from skin containers (500 tankoins from the challenge itself and 500 from the skin container)

I have to disagree, it IS technically a lie because they did not disclose that fact in the post to support that ... So ... for it to be true, they must lawfully disclose why it is 1000 Tankoins. Just stating ''1000 Tankoins'' when it is not clearly visible how that is possible... is deception. I studied contract law :)

Edited June 24, 2021 by cdiddy2000

[numericable 2,375]

1 hour ago, cdiddy2000 said:

Another disappointing June Challenge... Why is Battlepass still at 3 x what it used to cost (1500 now and was 500)?

WHy 4000 stars still instead of the usual 3000? 

WHY are the gold tier prizes always repeated or low use, not intersting anymore?

And also they said there were 1000 Tankoins in today's  post about the June Challenge II where they want you to consider buying stars if you are falling behind!?

No there are only 500 you win back... not 1000.

The 1500 Tankoins NOT worth Gold Tier battle pass.

 

Always increasing prices and lowering reward value and usefulness.

I did also buy 250 Ultra Containers this weekend, and I keep a log of all the TOP rewards I win... and for some reason the increased chances for top rewards did NOT get put into place for the weekend 250 Ultras.

It was clear they did not activate that algorithm so that more top rewards would drop. My list is clear and it was less than half from the previous WINNER lot of 300 Ultra Containers with the chances increased. By comparing both and watching the drop rewards from all levels of scarcity... it is clear that the '''your chances are better'' that was advertised was not active.

If the forum is the place to voice our thoughts and feelings, then these are them. I hope that the developers and whoever makes these decisions will listen to players who are in fact customers.  

Please to the devs to put back Gold Tier to 500 Tankoins and 3000 stars as it always was. many people now will not buy because of this increase.

How else are we to communicate our feedback to you other than in here? 7 years I have been in this game and watched numerous changes that I see as unfair and more of a greedy move, yet no one listens to customers in this platform. Hope that this may change...

 

 

  

Bro, when they said chance are better, it is compared to normal containers, chances are better than regular ones.

[LambSauce 1,884]

4 hours ago, cdiddy2000 said:

Another disappointing June Challenge... Why is Battlepass still at 3 x what it used to cost (1500 now and was 500)?

WHy 4000 stars still instead of the usual 3000? 

WHY are the gold tier prizes always repeated or low use, not intersting anymore?

And also they said there were 1000 Tankoins in today's  post about the June Challenge II where they want you to consider buying stars if you are falling behind!?

No there are only 500 you win back... not 1000.

The 1500 Tankoins NOT worth Gold Tier battle pass.

 

Always increasing prices and lowering reward value and usefulness.

I did also buy 250 Ultra Containers this weekend, and I keep a log of all the TOP rewards I win... and for some reason the increased chances for top rewards did NOT get put into place for the weekend 250 Ultras.

It was clear they did not activate that algorithm so that more top rewards would drop. My list is clear and it was less than half from the previous WINNER lot of 300 Ultra Containers with the chances increased. By comparing both and watching the drop rewards from all levels of scarcity... it is clear that the '''your chances are better'' that was advertised was not active.

If the forum is the place to voice our thoughts and feelings, then these are them. I hope that the developers and whoever makes these decisions will listen to players who are in fact customers.  

Please to the devs to put back Gold Tier to 500 Tankoins and 3000 stars as it always was. many people now will not buy because of this increase.

How else are we to communicate our feedback to you other than in here? 7 years I have been in this game and watched numerous changes that I see as unfair and more of a greedy move, yet no one listens to customers in this platform. Hope that this may change...

If you purchased 550 Ultra Containers, why are you so distraught about the extra 1000 Stars?

[numericable 2,375]

Omg, completing challenge will  ecome even more harder with tomorrow's update, to earn stars, we will have to wait for the full match to be done, no one-sided easy stars :

 

The maximum number of points/flags in MM battles was increased:

DM: 30 → 50;

TDM: 70 → 100;

CP: 30 → 50;

CTF: 5 → 7;

ASL: 70 → 100;

RGB: 5 → 7;

TJR: 7 → 10;

SGE: 5 → 7;

JGR: 100 → 100.

 

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

On 6/17/2021 at 4:54 PM, LambSauce said:

How many players do you think have every single skin?

I’d venture a guess somewhere in the vicinity of less than one-percent.

Actually, it's probably more like 5% now....


Cause much of the players who don't have the skins/didn't like this and other recent updates have left/quit/gone on haitus XD

Therefore possibly raising the percentage of players who have all skins unlocked compared to those that don't, and thus giving developers much different statistics then we should've normally seen from a Freemium game like Tanki. And the developers will use that to advertise and exaggerate their claims on why they did such _^stupid updates.

 

It may go like:

F2P Players: "Hey devs, why'd you increase the price of the battle pass by 3 times yet only allow people with all skins to get a boosted tankcoin reward?"

Developers: "It was because we looked at our data and we saw a large* portion of the players had already acquired all the skins, and thus we'd figured the update will be a-okay as it would benefit much* of the playerbase!"

 

 

I don't know, it's just my theory hehe.

[LambSauce 1,884]

15 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Actually, it's probably more like 5% now....


Cause much of the players who don't have the skins/didn't like this and other recent updates have left/quit/gone on haitus XD

Therefore possibly raising the percentage of players who have all skins unlocked compared to those that don't, and thus giving developers much different statistics then we should've normally seen from a Freemium game like Tanki. And the developers will use that to advertise and exaggerate their claims on why they did such _^stupid updates.

 

It may go like:

F2P Players: "Hey devs, why'd you increase the price of the battle pass by 3 times yet only allow people with all skins to get a boosted tankcoin reward?"

Developers: "It was because we looked at our data and we saw a large* portion of the players had already acquired all the skins, and thus we'd figured the update will be a-okay as it would benefit much* of the playerbase!"

 

 

I don't know, it's just my theory hehe.

Interesting theory.

I always thought that the devs purposefully added the extra TKs reward from a Skin Container to force regular buyers to buy more, in order to try to complete their skin collection and get the extra 500 TKs from the Challenge.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

I was hard but I got there in the end.

Tada!

[Blutchidoo 508]

I'm about to complete the Challenges, but I've splurged my life savings on coinboxes!

Send help! 

[Iron_Man 2,376]

17 minutes ago, Blutchidoo said:

I'm about to complete the Challenges, but I've splurged my life savings on coinboxes!

Send help! 

But I can't help you cuz I don't have any. Sorry

 

[cdiddy2000 48]

On 6/24/2021 at 10:31 PM, LambSauce said:

If you purchased 550 Ultra Containers, why are you so distraught about the extra 1000 Stars?

Thats kind of a silly question... its not the 1000 stars... its that they tripled the stars cost suddenly and have not justified it as the rewards have not been tripled... (again digital goods cost zero for them to create... it's a copy and paste job).

and... the first set of 300 ultra containers dropped the promised ''your chances are better'' yes , as I received around 40 top items from that lot... and a lot of better items.

where as the 250 ultra container bundle under the same % chances are better promise did NOT actually reflect this according to my rewards recorded previously ... which were less than 20 top items and mostly mines and speed boosts and the lowest level rewards. 

It was CLEARLY noticeable that they did not apply the % chance increase to that bundle, despite advertising it. I know they mess us around all the time... because I take note of changes and differences especially in pricing. They increased the price of tankoins too in the shop recently. 

I also know that if you go into the shop and pay in rubles, it is around 50% cheaper than euros and dollars. So... I know they are greedy and there is clearly a bias due to this pricing difference and there is no reason for them to be generous (nor are they) at all even though a digital good can be created out of thin air.  Sometimes they give away freebies yes, but these are little droplets of not much if you think about what it really takes to accumulate items and crystals in the game. I have been playing for over 7 years and I still don't have everything. 

I honestly ask myself why I keep supporting this game with my money and play when they keep changing the goal post all the time to suit them and not the players who pay their salaries... over 7 years I've spent way too much on this game... and for my money I kept hoping to have some sort of good advantage or a super powerful tank... but its nothing close to that. Even nowadays with 50% protection you can still be destroyed from ONE hit. It is ridiculous. And all these augments and special ammo etc etc really putting alot of extra confusion into the game as you spend too much time trying to work out what protections and augments and hulls and turrets to set to stay alive! 

 

 

 

[cdiddy2000 48]

On 6/24/2021 at 7:15 PM, numericable said:

Bro, when they said chance are better, it is compared to normal containers, chances are better than regular ones.

No I think that is wrong. Because they say clearly how many times each containers chances of rewarding a specific rarity is increased. So it is not based on normal containers. It is based on the base % chance of the Ultra Containers... look at how they advertise it... 

[1-4-ALL 56]

1 hour ago, cdiddy2000 said:

Thats kind of a silly question

Not really. What he is saying is that if you wasted good money on all those scam boxes, why so upset over the BP increase. 

Your a buyer, so in essence the BP increase goes in your favour as less players can afford it, therefore the best items in the challenge go to fewer players, leaving less players in battle to challenge your bought garage.

I agree with most of your post by the way.

Devs are greedy beyond compare....fact.

And after that post of yours if you keep buying you need to see a shrink....big time.

Edited June 29, 2021 by 1-4-ALL

[Okami 3,041]

4 hours ago, 1-4-ALL said:

Not really. What he is saying is that if you wasted good money on all those scam boxes, why so upset over the BP increase. 

Just because someone buys doesn’t mean they don’t want a reasonable deal. The main issue that cdiddy had is that the Battle Pass rewards do not justify the increased price. I think 1500 Tankoin Battle Passes are flat out OVERPRICED unless they have really good augments (and even then the price is still very questionable). It’s also worth mentioning that your Tankoins will last longer if Battle Passes cost 500 TK versus 1500 TK (even considering the fact that you get more Tankoins back with these new Challenges). 

[numericable 2,375]

What prizes do you guys think that would be in challenge july 1?

I think there will be blunderbuss for hammer and jammer immunity for Hopper, paint might be night city or cyborg paint.

[1-4-ALL 56]

1 hour ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

Just because someone buys doesn’t mean they don’t want a reasonable deal. The main issue that cdiddy had is that the Battle Pass rewards do not justify the increased price. I think 1500 Tankoin Battle Passes are flat out OVERPRICED unless they have really good augments (and even then the price is still very questionable). It’s also worth mentioning that your Tankoins will last longer if Battle Passes cost 500 TK versus 1500 TK (even considering the fact that you get more Tankoins back with these new Challenges). 

It's the buyers that the devs cater to. The updates, especially in the last couple of years have been down right ridiculous and overpriced, who do you think keeps the devs motivated to keep on bringing in OP updates for hiked up prices, (challenge included) the buyers.

This type of player plays right into the hands of the devs, they use their buying power to dominate battles, which in turn pleases the devs as they are vindicated for such calculated greed when bringing these OP updates in. I have no sympathy whatsoever for buyers if they feel that a certain update is a rip off, easy way out, stop buying, but of course they wont which is why the devs will keep ripping players off. If you noticed I agreed with most of his post, but like the flying cheat users I could care less about them are buyers.

They deserve everything they get off their best mates the devs.

[cdiddy2000 48]

On 6/29/2021 at 12:38 PM, 1-4-ALL said:

Not really. What he is saying is that if you wasted good money on all those scam boxes, why so upset over the BP increase. 

Your a buyer, so in essence the BP increase goes in your favour as less players can afford it, therefore the best items in the challenge go to fewer players, leaving less players in battle to challenge your bought garage.

I agree with most of your post by the way.

Devs are greedy beyond compare....fact.

And after that post of yours if you keep buying you need to see a shrink....big time.

Its called addiction 

[cdiddy2000 48]

On 6/29/2021 at 7:25 PM, 1-4-ALL said:

It's the buyers that the devs cater to. The updates, especially in the last couple of years have been down right ridiculous and overpriced, who do you think keeps the devs motivated to keep on bringing in OP updates for hiked up prices, (challenge included) the buyers.

This type of player plays right into the hands of the devs, they use their buying power to dominate battles, which in turn pleases the devs as they are vindicated for such calculated greed when bringing these OP updates in. I have no sympathy whatsoever for buyers if they feel that a certain update is a rip off, easy way out, stop buying, but of course they wont which is why the devs will keep ripping players off. If you noticed I agreed with most of his post, but like the flying cheat users I could care less about them are buyers.

They deserve everything they get off their best mates the devs.

Yeah I think you are going overboard with your comments here now.... It almost sounds like you are upset because you cannot afford to buy. Let me make you aware that there are millions of games out there with even more millions of players who spend money on these games. The games bring entertainment... they want to enjoy themselves... ALL entertainment costs money. There seems to be this idiotic anti-buyer culture that sweeps Tanki Online... and no place else! And I am tired of reading about it. If you cannot afford to upgrade or buy containers etc... then get off the game if it doesn't suit you. My specific complaint was the tripling of the Battle Pass cost... so no I dont buy that anymore unless all the augments are ones I need. Then its worth it as each costs 4990 Tankoins and I get 500 back so its 1000.  What people don't seem to understand is that millions of people around the world buy digital goods in games. It's for fun. Not a life changing detriment. Yes the devs in this game are greedy little buggers but you can pick and choose your deals. And no, these devs do not cater to buyers... they create buyers via manipulation... by a situation where anyone needs to buy stuff occasionally to stay in the top ranks or easily be destroyed. All games work on this basis. Despite this, overall I'd say I am 90% happy with all I got. I've won or collected a good chunk of what I have, so the extras from containers were a sweetass bonus. There will always be buyers in every single game that exists. So stop attacking those that have the extra funds to enjoy a little bit more fun. It's just how the world is. And the devs are greedy punks. Just for closure... pick and choose... go buy some ultras.    

Edited July 1, 2021 by cdiddy2000

[1-4-ALL 56]

13 hours ago, cdiddy2000 said:

it almost sounds like you are upset because you cannot afford to buy.

LOL I could buy and buy till the earth stops spinning, I don't because the amount of OP updates the devs have brought out is just because of their absolute greed.

I refuse to be drawn into there malicious P2W system, mostly on principle and because I'm not stupid.

13 hours ago, cdiddy2000 said:

millions of players who spend money on these games.

AND.

 

13 hours ago, cdiddy2000 said:

There seems to be this idiotic anti-buyer culture that sweeps Tanki Online.

If you knew me and the posts I have done you would no that I totally agree about game economy, It's the total lack of balance with every single update they bring out that bothers me.

Also some of their updates are blatant lies, like when they say they reworked the upgrading system to help out newbies, yeah right ok, nothing to do with making more money whatsoever.

14 hours ago, cdiddy2000 said:

Then its worth it as each costs 4990 Tankoins and I get 500 back so its 1000.

And if you can't see what is wrong with that then you do not fully understand how the devs (for the want of a better word) trick you into A - believing you are somehow making a better deal of it, B- getting your money and knowing they can do it almost at will, not just with you but all buyers. I would ask god to give me strength but he left TO years ago, knowing it was a lost cause.

14 hours ago, cdiddy2000 said:

they create buyers via manipulation.

Agree.

14 hours ago, cdiddy2000 said:

these devs do not cater to buyers.

Disagree. 

Once they have their P2W players, they most definitely cater to them in order to keep them on board with every OP update they bring out.

14 hours ago, cdiddy2000 said:

go buy some ultras

I have already said I am not stupid. I will leave buying the scam boxes to those of lesser intelligence.

[wolverine848 13,097]

On 6/29/2021 at 5:50 AM, cdiddy2000 said:

where as the 250 ultra container bundle under the same % chances are better promise did NOT actually reflect this according to my rewards recorded previously ... which were less than 20 top items and mostly mines and speed boosts and the lowest level rewards.

You already said you got a nice haul from the previous 300 containers.  So what's the problem?

NOTHING is guaranteed.  You gambled and lost the second time.