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7 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

They removed the decreased reload after the salvo. 

oooh that makes so much more sense lol. I thought that it was practically a 5 rocket salvo.

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SJGR is tough, tons of OP 9999s, critical protection modules.

  * forget killing JGR, unless you use long range with viking. it is faster to kill nearby weak ones.for 25+ kills per battle

  * have to spam Double Damage on Booster Drone for x4 damage on hunter w anit-freeze augment. (kill one and die, kill one and die)

( blaster drone can't kill those Defender drones, so have to use Booster drone with Adrenaline freeze for the buffer critical)

  * after 110 medium hull, best switch to hornet for its AP and 8s Critical Freeze damage (1 OD + booster drone = sure kill JGR. if JGR has no OD)

  * after 20k crystal, better leave those toxic SJGR, and find a quiet corner on large MM map to use Camper drone to quickly waste left over supplies mission and 40-50 mines per battle

finished in roughly 3hr +

 

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4 hours ago, wild001 said:

SJGR is tough, tons of OP 9999s, critical protection modules.

  * after 20k crystal, better leave those toxic SJGR, and find a quiet corner on large MM map to use Camper drone to quickly waste left over supplies mission and 40-50 mines per battle

True. At least is nice we got crystals mission, not battle points. With 10 days premium from containers, easy. Got 4200 crystals in 2 SJR battles.

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4 hours ago, wild001 said:

SJGR is tough, tons of OP 9999s, critical protection modules.

  * forget killing JGR, unless you use long range with viking. it is faster to kill nearby weak ones.for 25+ kills per battle

  * have to spam Double Damage on Booster Drone for x4 damage on hunter w anit-freeze augment. (kill one and die, kill one and die)

( blaster drone can't kill those Defender drones, so have to use Booster drone with Adrenaline freeze for the buffer critical)

  * after 110 medium hull, best switch to hornet for its AP and 8s Critical Freeze damage (1 OD + booster drone = sure kill JGR. if JGR has no OD)

  * after 20k crystal, better leave those toxic SJGR, and find a quiet corner on large MM map to use Camper drone to quickly waste left over supplies mission and 40-50 mines per battle

finished in roughly 3hr +

 

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LOL all that for extra speed boosts, no thanks.

The devs like players like you and riddler ? 

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2 hours ago, G-92 said:

LOL all that for extra speed boosts, no thanks.

The devs like players like you and riddler ? 

The Ultras do not always give only speed boosts, you can get good rewards - I have gotten Crisis, EMP Gauss, multiple Legendary augments and so on from special mission Ultras, so you can get lucky. It is necessary to have a high chance to still get common rewards, to keep the good items rarer and valuable. And these special missions are pretty easy as special missions go - can be completed even by casual players.

Now I don't agree with all the balance changes and other changes that are often made to this game, sure, but its kind of pointless to complain "Ultras give speed boosts blah blah blah" because you have a very good chance to get good rewards from them, and they need to give out common rewards also to keep the good rewards valuable when you do get them.

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1 hour ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

The Ultras do not always give only speed boosts, you can get good rewards - I have gotten Crisis, EMP Gauss, multiple Legendary augments and so on from special mission Ultras, so you can get lucky. It is necessary to have a high chance to still get common rewards, to keep the good items rarer and valuable. And these special missions are pretty easy as special missions go - can be completed even by casual players.

Now I don't agree with all the balance changes and other changes that are often made to this game, sure, but its kind of pointless to complain "Ultras give speed boosts blah blah blah" because you have a very good chance to get good rewards from them, and they need to give out common rewards also to keep the good rewards valuable when you do get them.

Ultras are crap. Only druggs from them most of the time (and some paints). 2 days ago just got from normal container (from Shards) Shaft XT Skin. Ultras should have very high chances for skins, not normals.

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7 minutes ago, x_Sorinel_x said:

Ultras are crap. Only druggs from them most of the time (and some paints). 2 days ago just got from normal container (from Shards) Shaft XT Skin. Ultras should have very high chances for skins, not normals.

There is a fairly high chance for exotics, they are still rare but I have seen quite a few Exotics from Ultras, from the ones I got for free on Tanki's birthday across all my accounts. The exotic rewards have to be rare, like 1% chance from Ultras and 0.1% from regular containers - if they are to remain valuable. You have a reasonably good chance to get good rewards, I don't have a problem with rewards from Ultras - I've done well out of them, but you don't get good rewards every time. Very often you don't - but that's fine. If you did, it would mess up the reward system in the game. Everyone walking around with vampire Isida and EMP gauss would not be a good thing, and if you got those rewards then they would no longer feel special - as they do currently.

And by the way, yes I do think vampire Isida - along with several other Ultra augments - need a nerf. But that's another topic.

EDIT: I see you said that you got an XT skin from a normal container. Normal containers do NOT have a higher chance for exotics than Ultras - quite the opposite - it only seems to be that way because you get so many normal containers, compared to Ultra containers - basic maths. Will you have a higher chance for exotics (in terms of ACTUAL chance, and not % chance) from 1,000 normal containers, than from 50 Ultras? Yes, you will. But will you have a higher chance for exotics from 100 normal containers, than from 100 Ultras? No, chance from Ultras will be 10 times more. 1% vs 0.1%, or something like that.

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14 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

There is a fairly high chance for exotics, they are still rare but I have seen quite a few Exotics from Ultras, from the ones I got for free on Tanki's birthday across all my accounts. The exotic rewards have to be rare, like 1% chance from Ultras and 0.1% from regular containers - if they are to remain valuable. You have a reasonably good chance to get good rewards, I don't have a problem with rewards from Ultras - I've done well out of them, but you don't get good rewards every time. Very often you don't - but that's fine. If you did, it would mess up the reward system in the game. Everyone walking around with vampire Isida and EMP gauss would not be a good thing, and if you got those rewards then they would no longer feel special - as they do currently.

And by the way, yes I do think vampire Isida - along with several other Ultra augments - need a nerf. But that's another topic.

High? Really? The Devs expect you to pay around US$125 to get one single exotic on average. 1% chance is no where near "high" given how expensive it is

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10 minutes ago, Aegis said:

High? Really? The Devs expect you to pay around US$125 to get one single exotic on average. 

And 1% chance is no where near "high" given how expensive it is

OK, well fair point for buyers I guess :)

I am not a buyer, so the price for Ultras/Skins doesn't concern me - for free rewards as we get from the special missions, I am pretty happy with the current reward rate from Ultras and I wouldn't personally be complaining. For buyers however, maybe there is an issue - I really don't know. I would be in favour of a model where the developers aim to make more money off cosmetic items such as Skins/effects/paints rather than items which give an actual pay-to-win power advantage, but sure, those items need to be reasonably priced.

EDIT: And yes for the exotic tier, 1% is frequent enough I would say. It is meant to be the rarest of the rare after all.

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18 minutes ago, fghjkl54 said:

i hope i can even put my hands on it 

the missions are too hardcore (more than insane!!!!)

They feel easier than before.

20k Crystals, destroy 200, and use 200+ Armor, Damage, and Mines.

Pretty good Missions this time. 

I don't like earning Battle Points Missions. This takes a long time for me.

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1 hour ago, thunderhunter123 said:

They feel easier than before.

20k Crystals, destroy 200, and use 200+ Armor, Damage, and Mines.

Pretty good Missions this time. 

I don't like earning Battle Points Missions. This takes a long time for me.

Agreed, the 20k crystals missions are easy at Legend, and we only have 110 kills to make (sometimes crazy weekends have asked for 300), plus we have no overdrives mission. The battle points/200 or more kills/overdrives missions are what really takes a lot of time, so these missions are good and very easy by normal standards.

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6 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

There is a fairly high chance for exotics, they are still rare but I have seen quite a few Exotics from Ultras, from the ones I got for free on Tanki's birthday across all my accounts. The exotic rewards have to be rare, like 1% chance from Ultras and 0.1% from regular containers - if they are to remain valuable. You have a reasonably good chance to get good rewards, I don't have a problem with rewards from Ultras - I've done well out of them, but you don't get good rewards every time. Very often you don't - but that's fine. If you did, it would mess up the reward system in the game. Everyone walking around with vampire Isida and EMP gauss would not be a good thing, and if you got those rewards then they would no longer feel special - as they do currently.

And by the way, yes I do think vampire Isida - along with several other Ultra augments - need a nerf. But that's another topic.

EDIT: I see you said that you got an XT skin from a normal container. Normal containers do NOT have a higher chance for exotics than Ultras - quite the opposite - it only seems to be that way because you get so many normal containers, compared to Ultra containers - basic maths. Will you have a higher chance for exotics (in terms of ACTUAL chance, and not % chance) from 1,000 normal containers, than from 50 Ultras? Yes, you will. But will you have a higher chance for exotics from 100 normal containers, than from 100 Ultras? No, chance from Ultras will be 10 times more. 1% vs 0.1%, or something like that.

Well for my experience ultra containers are a scam i will tell you why: it always give good stuff from the 7 free UC so you will obviously purchase them and when you do, what will you get? Garbage containers only, i have received 4 exotics from FREE UC so when i decided to purchase them (around 800 Ultras since september) how many exotics do you think that ive got? The answer is 0 from the ines that i have bought. So, obviously what he is saying isnt false at 100% 7free UC 's goal are to give you good things so you will think that they are valuable and then you would purchase them, but at the end, they would barely give you one good thing.

Why did they made this algorythm? So you will not get everything in the game therefore you will purchase more.

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15 minutes ago, numericable said:

Well for my experience ultra containers are a scam i will tell you why: it always give good stuff from the 7 free UC so you will obviously purchase them and when you do, what will you get? Garbage containers only, i have received 4 exotics from FREE UC so when i decided to purchase them (around 800 Ultras since september) how many exotics do you think that ive got? The answer is 0 from the ines that i have bought. So, obviously what he is saying isnt false at 100% 7free UC 's goal are to give you good things so you will think that they are valuable and then you would purchase them, but at the end, they would barely give you one good thing.

Why did they made this algorythm? So you will not get everything in the game therefore you will purchase more.

Well if the bought Ultras truly have a lower drop rate then that is indeed a scam, they claimed in one of the answered questions that all types of containers have the same drop rate no matter how they are obtained, so then that would have had to be an outright lie if what you say is true. Would need more data from other buyers to work out what the truth is, either you have been astonishingly unlucky or there is something to what you are saying. But I do see many buyers walking about with the latest kit, on the day/ the day after release - so some people are clearly getting the good drops.

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41 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

Well if the bought Ultras truly have a lower drop rate then that is indeed a scam, they claimed in one of the answered questions that all types of containers have the same drop rate no matter how they are obtained, so then that would have had to be an outright lie if what you say is true. Would need more data from other buyers to work out what the truth is, either you have been astonishingly unlucky or there is something to what you are saying. But I do see many buyers walking about with the latest kit, on the day/ the day after release - so some people are clearly getting the good drops.

I am not lying, these buyers that you see which have tesla the first days it came out or tesla XT must be hardcore buyers, i would not say that i am unlucky because i already got few exotics from normal containers and 4 exotics from free ultra containers mission (the latest was ares xt like 2 or 3 weeks ago and 2 weeks before i got armadillo), so when i saw that crusader XT bundle i decided to buy it, it had 300 UC, and not even 1 exotic, so i have discovered their marketing strategy to make people buy Ultras. By the way, almost each times that i open 7 free UC, i get a legendary item, when in 300 UC i got 3 legendaries lol anyways i bought that bundle only for crusader XT so idc if they 'scamed' me as long as i was aware of this.

Moreover, it is not a secret that developers often lies to cover their action, everyone know about it. Just look at the patch notes, sometimes they do secret buff or nerf (i remember once they nerfed gauss so badly that they said the next week it was a bug)

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49 minutes ago, fghjkl54 said:

thanks for proving the conts form special missions gives good rewards i was waiting that ????

I have discovered this when i opened so many containers and 0 exotic from UC bought with money, it was very frustrating so now im trying to aware people, they are free to listen or not?

 

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