challenge August Challenge I

[Frylock 1,617]

7 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Um.... it's still 1500 TK.  So no, it absolutely does not make sense.

But you're a helper, so keep pumping their tires.  

I mean it does make sense 1500 tankoins for the stuff you get. I mean they have been litterally giving exclusive UC augments in the BP now in the gold teir and you get 1k tankoins in return also in gold tier. And they decreased the amount of stars needed is 3000 again.

Edited July 31, 2021 by MysticBlood

[numericable 2,375]

27 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

I mean it does make sense 1500 tankoins for the stuff you get. I mean they have been litterally giving exclusive UC augments in the BP now in the gold teir and you get 1k tankoins in return also in gold tier. And they decreased the amount of stars needed is 3000 again.

The BP would make sense if we would get UC instead of normal containers and also IF we would get substitute reward when we already got some things, i already got all augment and paint from this challenge, so i would pay 1500 tankoins to get only drugs and 20 normal cont, do u really thing it worth?

[Frylock 1,617]

15 minutes ago, numericable said:

The BP would make sense if we would get UC instead of normal containers and also IF we would get substitute reward when we already got some things, i already got all augment and paint from this challenge, so i would pay 1500 tankoins to get only drugs and 20 normal cont, do u really thing it worth?

I mean if you already have the stuff from the challenges dont but the bp simple as that. Also they give a total of 25 regular containers in gold teir plus immunities. But still, 1k tankoins in return is good along with uc exclusive augment you can get for certain instead of paying about $50 or higher for ucs trying to get an exclusive augment.

Edited July 31, 2021 by MysticBlood

[yellowghetto 3,206]

I think 3000 stars change is fair and should be permanent. I honestly don’t know what Tanki was thinking when they increased it to 4000. I would assume that they thought we would engage more in battles, but obviously, no. More rage quits, less incentives for free to play. My mini account would finally have a chance for more status Augments. 
 

As for this battle pass, Augments are garbage. I hope the decreased stars DO NOT set a precedent for trash Augments, and price hiked Battle Pass price.

Edited July 31, 2021 by yellowghetto

[yellowghetto 3,206]

54 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

I mean it does make sense 1500 tankoins for the stuff you get. I mean they have been litterally giving exclusive UC augments in the BP now in the gold teir and you get 1k tankoins in return also in gold tier. And they decreased the amount of stars needed is 3000 again.

No, it doesn’t make sense. AP Shaft? That is HOT garbage. I remember they have other UC Exclusives like AP Freeze or EMP Smoky.

It makes no sense to return Tankoins in Gold Pass. If we SPEND Tankoins for a Pass, why even return Tankoins? Just reduce the freaking price!

Edited July 31, 2021 by yellowghetto

[numericable 2,375]

3 minutes ago, yellowghetto said:

I think 3000 stars change is fair and should be permanent. I honestly don’t know what Tanki was thinking when they increased it to 4000. I would assume that they thought we would engage more in battles, but obviously, no. More rage quits, less incentives for free to play. My mini account would finally have a chance for more status Augments. 
 

As for this battle pass, Augments are garbage. I hope the decreased stars DO NOT set a precedent for trash Augments, and price hiked Battle Pass price.

Currently, i am waiting for vampire isida to appear, but i dont think it would appear in the near future, also they need to replace cont by UC and give substitue rewards to actually make it worth.

[Frylock 1,617]

1 minute ago, yellowghetto said:

No, it doesn’t make sense. AP Shaft? That’s is HOT garbage. I remember they have other UC Exclusives like AP Freeze or EMP Smoky.

Well ap shaft isnt that bad depending in the user. 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Just now, numericable said:

Currently, i am waiting for vampire isida to appear, but i dont think it would appear in the near future, also they need to replace cont by UC and give substitue rewards to actually make it worth.

Same bro. It would be sick. Or Armor-Piercing Salvo for Gauss

[Spy 14,687]

Shaft AP is pretty nice, I got it awhile ago from UC. Additionally, I'm glad to see that 3,000 stars are needed instead of 4,000.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

7 hours ago, Marcus said:

 

This time we have decreased the number of stars you need to earn to 3000 so you can complete the challenge easily!

 

Sooooo glad they have changed it back to 3,000 stars - best news for a while. Thank you for listening to the players, for once!

Now at last casual players can complete challenges again, without having to no-life, and we can also complete challenges on alternate accounts. 4k stars was just wayyyy too much, this is much better.

One other great thing about this is that they actually REVERTED a bad update, on the basis of community feedback - this is the kind of thing that Tanki needs to do more often. The policy of "we don't revert updates" is a bad one, and not commonplace among successful gaming developers - good developers are ready and willing to sometimes revert updates that the community totally dislike, and it is to the benefit of their games. Glad to see that (hopefully?) things could change - maybe the developers will actually start listening to the players.

Edited July 31, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, MysticBlood said:

I mean it does make sense 1500 tankoins for the stuff you get. I mean they have been litterally giving exclusive UC augments in the BP now in the gold teir and you get 1k tankoins in return also in gold tier. And they decreased the amount of stars needed is 3000 again.

Most players don't have close to 1500 TK so it really doesn't matter what they give in gold Tier - many cannot afford it.

And the statement that you get 1000 TK if you complete the Challenge AND have all the skins is just ridiculous.

Once again, most players don't have all the skins, or even close to all the skins.  It's so disingenuous it's laughable.

[Frylock 1,617]

27 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Most players don't have close to 1500 TK so it really doesn't matter what they give in gold Tier - many cannot afford it.

And the statement that you get 1000 TK if you complete the Challenge AND have all the skins is just ridiculous.

Once again, most players don't have all the skins, or even close to all the skins.  It's so disingenuous it's laughable.

Yes thats true but would you rather spend about $43 or higher USD on ucs trying to get the exclusive augments or just spend about $20 dollars on the bp knowing your gonna get a skin, a UC exclusive augment, immunities, and 1k tankoins back. The problem isnt with the bp price, the main problem is that the inconsistency pricings in shops for items in different currency's. *Specifically tankoins*.

Edited July 31, 2021 by MysticBlood

[Crossbone 516]

34 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

 

Sooooo glad they have changed it back to 3,000 stars - best news for a while. Thank you for listening to the players, for once!

Now at last casual players can complete challenges again, without having to no-life, and we can also complete challenges on alternate accounts. 4k stars was just wayyyy too much, this is much better.

One other great thing about this is that they actually REVERTED a bad update, on the basis of community feedback - this is the kind of thing that Tanki needs to do more often. The policy of "we don't revert updates" is a bad one, and not commonplace among successful gaming developers - good developers are ready and willing to sometimes revert updates that the community totally dislike, and it is to the benefit of their games. Glad to see that (hopefully?) things could change - maybe the developers will actually start listening to the players.

Now if they revert the exp boost that they made permanent last September, that would be an awesome update. Many of us can start playing on some of our accounts again.

[Spicy_Crabs 44]

I definitely like the animated paint, and I'm so glad it has been reverted to 3000 stars (sometimes I struggle with 4000 stars). I have never tried out AP Shaft yet, so excited to try it out 

[Frylock 1,617]

1 minute ago, Spicy_Crabs said:

I definitely like the animated paint, and I'm so glad it has been reverted to 3000 stars (sometimes I struggle with 4000 stars). I have never tried out AP Shaft yet, so excited to try it out 

Its a fun augment. xD you may like it.

[Spicy_Crabs 44]

4 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

Its a fun augment. xD you may like it.

I'm glad to hear that. I'm relieved they tuned the challenge a bit so it is 3000 stars and gave a pretty good augment and paint

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

14 minutes ago, Crossbone said:

Now if they revert the exp boost that they made permanent last September, that would be an awesome update. Many of us can start playing on some of our accounts again.

To be honest I don't mind the exp boost, given that we now have shards. The overall crystals/experience is higher, for those of us who don't play that much at least, with the exp boost but with shards taken into account - than before the exp boost but without shards. If we have no exp boost and shards, the income levels would be just too high. I also think in general it took a little too long to rank up before, personally.

However of course, things were really good when the battle pass was 500 tks - but really for what you got it was perhaps too good value. The 1500 pass is quite a nerf to free players.

What I would like to see removed is 2x exp on special events - which discourages play during those events for non-Legend players.

Edited July 31, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[G-92 104]

1 hour ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

Thank you for listening to the players, for once

LOL you reckon they listened to players, have another think about that.

[G-92 104]

Well mystikblod do you think they listen to players? I no they don't.

Sorry my bad, seemed to have spelt your name wrong. Tell you what, you give me 1500 tankoins and I will spell it right next time, seems fair.

Edited July 31, 2021 by G-92

[Frylock 1,617]

30 minutes ago, G-92 said:

Well mystikblod do you think they listen to players? I no they don't.

Sorry my bad, seemed to have spelt your name wrong. Tell you what, you give me 1500 tankoins and I will spell it right next time, seems fair.

What do you think what happened to tanki x when devs gave everything the players wanted. The game got discontinued. I think there should be boundaries to some items. Like I have said before, the root problem isnt the bp price, its the inconsistency of pricings in different currency's. Specifically talking about the price of tankoins in this case.

Edited July 31, 2021 by MysticBlood

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

35 minutes ago, G-92 said:

LOL you reckon they listened to players, have another think about that.

Well I mean, we all complained about the 4000 stars change to the challenge since it was introduced, and said that we would like the stars put back to 3000 as it was too high. And now, they have put the stars back to 3000. So it would seem that they have listened to the players on this occasion, and rolled back a bad update. What's the alternative explanation?

Now I admit that that happens rarely, which is why I am keen to say this is a good and positive change. There is even a policy stated within the Ideas and Suggestions section, that "suggestions regarding the removal of updates will not be accepted", and as far as I'm aware that is Alternativa's general policy with the game, given how they have operated in the recent past - which is a very bad policy indeed, and as I say unlike many other, more successful, game companies who listen to players and are willing to roll back bad updates. Mistakes are made by all humans - and sometimes they need to be corrected. Especially when your income depends on making the customers of your product (in this case Tanki Online) - happy.

I try to offer fair criticism - if good changes are made (and recently there have been quite a few good ones), I will give positive feedback. If bad changes are made - negative feedback. I don't blindly praise the devs, or always only criticise. Only by doing this can we possibly indicate what we actually want, if you just criticise everything the developers do then your feedback becomes meaningless.

Going back to 3000 stars is great, and reverting a bad update is great. I hope to see more changes like this.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

8 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

What do you think what happened to tanki x when devs gave everything the players wanted. The game got discontinued. I think there should be boundaries to some items. Like I have said before, the root problem isnt the bp price, its the inconsistency of pricings in different currency's. Specifically talking about the price tankoins in this case.

I don't know much about Tanki X, I never played it -  but I doubt that it ended because of the devs 'giving players everything that they wanted'. There are lots of other games that try to give players what they want, along with the developers own ideas (as players don't always know what they actually want), and they are making millions. I think the failure of Tanki X was surely down to other factors - taking customer feedback into account and delivering based on that is essential and all the most successful games do that.

Edited July 31, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[Frylock 1,617]

Just now, DestrotankAI9 said:

I don't know much about Tanki X, I never played it -  but I doubt that it ended because it "gave players everything that they wanted". There are lots of other games that try to give players what they want, along with the developers own ideas (as players don't always know what they actually want), and they are making millions. I think the failure of Tanki X was surely down to other factors - taking customer feedback into account and delivering based on that is essential and all the most successful games do that.

I meant to say it was one of the factors... My bad for the misunderstanding. But it was one of the main factors that led to its end.

[numericable 2,375]

4 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

Well I mean, we all complained about the 4000 stars change to the challenge since it was introduced, and said that we would like the stars put back to 3000 as it was too high. And now, they have put the stars back to 3000. So it would seem that they have listened to the players on this occasion, and rolled back a bad update. What's the alternative explanation?

Now I admit that that happens rarely, which is why I am keen to say this is a good and positive change. There is even a policy stated within the Ideas and Suggestions section, that "suggestions regarding the removal of updates will not be accepted", and as far as I'm aware that is Alternativa's general policy with the game, given how they have operated in the recent past - which is a very bad policy indeed, and as I say unlike many other, more successful, game companies who listen to players and are willing to roll back bad updates. Mistakes are made by all humans - and sometimes they need to be corrected. Especially when your income depends on making the customers of your product (in this case Tanki Online) - happy.

I try to offer fair criticism - if good changes are made (and recently there have been quite a few good ones), I will give positive feedback. If bad changes are made - negative feedback. I don't blindly praise the devs, or always only criticise. Only by doing this can we possibly indicate what we actually want, if you just criticise everything the developers do then your feedback becomes meaningless.

Going back to 3000 stars is great, and reverting a bad update is great. I hope to see more changes like this.

I dont think they have listened to the players for the 3k stars, more likely they have listened to their database and saw that only a few players purchased BP , when they made this, they thought that players would grind and buy tankoins, but thats not what happened, just telling you i saw only 1 stunning striker when before, i would have already seen atleast 20. Thats why they reversed the update, they actually dont care about the player opinion.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

8 minutes ago, numericable said:

I dont think they have listened to the players for the 3k stars, more likely they have listened to their database and saw that only a few players purchased BP , when they made this, they thought that players would grind and buy tankoins, but thats not what happened, just telling you i saw only 1 stunning striker when before, i would have already seen atleast 20. Thats why they reversed the update, they actually dont care about the player opinion.

Well, you could indeed be right - I hope that isn't the case. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they actually did take our feedback on board, given that they also fixed Viking overdrive with certain augments and turrets which was something a few players suggested in Ideas & Suggestions recently, and is another great update. I will take a positive change in the right direction for now, and I hope that more such changes will be to come.

Edited July 31, 2021 by DestrotankAI9