challenge August Challenge I

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, MysticBlood said:

Yes thats true but would you rather spend about $43 or higher USD on ucs trying to get the exclusive augments or just spend about $20 dollars on the bp knowing your gonna get a skin, a UC exclusive augment, immunities, and 1k tankoins back. The problem isnt with the bp price, the main problem is that the inconsistency pricings in shops for items in different currency's. *Specifically tankoins*.

I'd rather spend ZERO dollars.

If a player is not spending any money, it is irrelevant if it's $5 cheaper or $20 cheaper or $50 cheaper.

Try looking at it from a F2P tankers point of view.

[wolverine848 13,097]

18 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

I don't know much about Tanki X, I never played it -  but I doubt that it ended because of the devs 'giving players everything that they wanted'. There are lots of other games that try to give players what they want, along with the developers own ideas (as players don't always know what they actually want), and they are making millions. I think the failure of Tanki X was surely down to other factors - taking customer feedback into account and delivering based on that is essential and all the most successful games do that.

TX ended because it was poorly implemented.  There was a lot broken with it.

Also didnt help that they were trying to cannibalize players from a game they were already running.  Botth TX and TO were never gonna survive together. It was one or the other.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

21 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

TX ended because it was poorly implemented.  There was a lot broken with it.

Also didnt help that they were trying to cannibalize players from a game they were already running.  Botth TX and TO were never gonna survive together. It was one or the other.

I'd say this is a more accurate analysis of why it ended. Giving players what they want (listening to, and acting on feedback), is a cornerstone of good game maintenance, and something that top game companies managing successful micro-transaction/subscription model games do well.

Edited July 31, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[Cleric 1,385]

Now the question is, will this 3k stars arrangement last? Or will the Devs decide to F with us again and change back to 4k stars two weeks after?

[Cleric 1,385]

8 hours ago, Hugoslav said:

Shaft AP is very OP, good luck to everyone!

No it is not in the user's point of view.

The idea of augment is to make the target easier to kill after sniper shot. Yet, as a sniper, you should aim for one shot kill in the first place. Also, by the time you are able to fire a follow up arcade shot, the target you badly damaged should have long gone.

 

That's why you see many AP magnums, a few AP freeze, while AP shaft is super rare even in maps like highway.

Edited August 1, 2021 by Aegis

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

I am so glad that you returned challenges to 3000 stars so that I can easily complete the challenge on the silver tier when completing my daily missions every day as well as claiming all my completed weekly missions. Thank you so much for that and the increased challenge rewards.

[Pythor 1,354]

Wannabe gladiator imposters thank the challenge reward committee. 

[G-92 104]

12 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

So it would seem that they have listened to the players on this occasion, and rolled back a bad update. What's the alternative explanation?

Because of the devs track record, in particular the last couple of years your really asking "what's the alternative"

12 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

Now I admit that that happens rarely,

Once every ice age.

12 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

I try to offer fair criticism

So do I, I just don't skirt around the edges, I say what I see (actually see in battle) and comment on how I interpret the devs decisions on all things TO. And because I'm not some half wit yokel I tend to get quite a few going against me.

 

12 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

if you just criticise everything the developers do then your feedback becomes meaningless.

Tell me one good update that has been on a par with the countless bad updates the devs have brought into the game. I will give an example of what I mean.

Bad update.....No more micro upgrades if you can get get the next MK at your rank. Now tell me any so called good update that matches that for it's impact on players and how it effects players in battle. Not silly paints are shot effects are shards (dumb name) as none of these help players in battle. Good luck.

13 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

I hope to see more changes like this.

Old saying, don't hold your breath.

 

13 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

I don't know much about Tanki X, I never played it -  but I doubt that it ended because of the devs 'giving players everything that they wanted'

Agree.

 

13 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

I think the failure of Tanki X was surely down to other factors

Agree.

 

13 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

taking customer feedback into account and delivering based on that is essential 

Totally agree.  

[Frylock 1,617]

13 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

I'd rather spend ZERO dollars.

If a player is not spending any money, it is irrelevant if it's $5 cheaper or $20 cheaper or $50 cheaper.

Try looking at it from a F2P tankers point of view.

Well you gotta accept the fact not everything is gonna be free. I believe that there should be boundaries to certain things or some sort of way making money to keep the game afloat. Yes I do think some pricings is overkill and many say its the battle pass, but like I said before problem isnt just the bp price, im saying this one last time, root problem is inconsistent tankoin prices in  different currencys. (I still stand my this statement.) Plus I believe UC exclusive augments should keep their rarity. I mean its also accessible to f2p also. Best solution to get these augments, just shrink the prize pool then open your ucs.

 

[tankiexpert1 105]

Finally, I can just complete daily and weekly missions to obtain all these cool rewards.  

[Bydo 20,119]

guys you need to understand where it comes down to the changes on the cost of items / shop prices it boils down to the market currency value. think about the prices back in say 2015 I believe we could buy items for around 35 crystals . but now due to inflation prices change, some fluctuate over time giving us these lower prices.

where tanki X is concern sure there was a lot of issues and with the changes in items placed in the game .I believe that was the down fall of the game .see if they had left the game alone and had tanki join into it and allowing players to keep there accounts  and achievements over the years . then maybe it would have succeeded . but tanki did not want to join them and players also refuse to join seeing they had to start from the beginning again.

for me the main reason I stopped playing was cause of the last year it went down hill with the gross changes that made the game impossible to play.which it's also starting to a impact on this game and it's dropping ratings - players . if the game was left as it was indented to be played we might have had a huge player group still here. sure there is things we need to get changed but having gear scores which really does nothing ( based on seeing the battles still have not been changed to be a balanced system ). over all there was some items that we should have here, but then there is others things that would not be suitable for this game play.

for the stars missions let's hope they have opened up there eye's and see that players were right from the start and raising the mission did nothing for the game. it turned players away from playing and spending money . which is not what head office wants . they need money to survive in these hard times.

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

8 hours ago, MysticBlood said:

root problem is inconsistent tankoin prices in  different currencys.

And I'll say it again - THIS ONLY AFFECTS BUYERS.

Game is losing tons of non-buyers every month. Non-buyers make up the majority of the players in the game.  TO does not seem to care about them - but they better.

When game loses enough non-buyers MM won't function.  When MM won't function the game is done.

[Frylock 1,617]

25 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

And I'll say it again - THIS ONLY AFFECTS BUYERS.

Game is losing tons of non-buyers every month. Non-buyers make up the majority of the players in the game.  TO does not seem to care about them - but they better.

When game loses enough non-buyers MM won't function.  When MM won't function the game is done.

Says the guy who bought a battle pass with titan ap immunity. XD. Though I know that bp back then costed 500 tankoins.

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 hours ago, MysticBlood said:

Says the guy who bought a battle pass with titan ap immunity. XD. Though I know that bp back then costed 500 tankoins.

Um... I paid for that by earning 100 TK for 4 Challenges and 100TK from completing missions and getting containers.

[Frylock 1,617]

8 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Um... I paid for that by earning 100 TK for 4 Challenges and 100TK from completing missions and getting containers.

Sure cough cough. But im not gonna go there. But anyways I think the problem im pointing out is from economic view. Im not as focused as on to f2p as I should but I wanted to point out the economic problem of the game as well. Basically there are problems on both ends. One being that the items given Is not worth up to the value they put. The other view is inconsistency in prices in other currencys. 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2021 by MysticBlood

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

Sure cough cough. But im not gonna go there. But anyways I think the problem im pointing out is from economic view. Im not as focused as on to f2p as I should but I wanted to point out the economic problem of the game as well.

 

 

You just went there.  Have a nice day.

[Abellia 504]

2 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

Sure cough cough. But im not gonna go there. But anyways I think the problem im pointing out is from economic view. Im not as focused as on to f2p as I should but I wanted to point out the economic problem of the game as well.

 

 

Why mention F2Ps vs buyers at all? They have access to status augments through Ultra Containers, according to you, and it's not like the meta drones (booster and defender) are too expensive for F2Ps to maintain, according to developers. Hell, if everyone has access to status augments and meta drones - why is there an economic problem? 

Funny how the first time I hear a complaint on here about shop prices being inconsistent is after they increase the price of items bought though the Brazilian Real...

[Frylock 1,617]

2 minutes ago, Abellia said:

Why mention F2Ps vs buyers at all? They have access to status augments through Ultra Containers, according to you, and it's not like the meta drones (booster and defender) are too expensive for F2Ps to maintain, according to developers. Hell, if everyone has access to status augments and meta drones - why is there an economic problem? 

Funny how the first time I hear a complaint on here about shop prices being inconsistent is after they increase the price of items bought though the Brazilian Real...

Well prices in my currency Im not effected negatively by it. But others are that has weaker currency are heavily effected.

Edited August 2, 2021 by MysticBlood

[Abellia 504]

Just now, MysticBlood said:

Well prices in my currency Im not effected negatively by it. But others are that has weaker currency are heavily effected.

The change country button is right there, and I'm sure you've used it plenty of times. 

[Frylock 1,617]

45 minutes ago, Abellia said:

The change country button is right there, and I'm sure you've used it plenty of times. 

one time I changed locations to see what there was and somehow my other acc got blocked just because I changed locations for long periods of time. Kinda my fault at that part. But they sent an email to me that it was for security reasons.

47 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

You just went there.  Have a nice day.

Thats the point. XD

Edited August 2, 2021 by MysticBlood

[Crossbone 516]

8 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

Thats the point. XD

So you admit to trying to provoke @wolverine848. At least you're honest.

[Frylock 1,617]

8 minutes ago, Crossbone said:

So you admit to trying to provoke @wolverine848. At least you're honest.

I honestly hate lying. Sometimes you gotta know when to stand your ground. The second you let someone stomp all over you you become weak hearted or lose confidence in yourself when trying making solid arguments.

Edited August 2, 2021 by MysticBlood

[Crossbone 516]

12 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

I honestly hate lying. Sometimes you gotta know when to stand your ground. The second you let someone stomp all over you you become weak hearted or lose confidence in yourself when trying making solid arguments.

I get where you're going at but sometimes its better to just agree to disagree. You are right that there are inconsistencies with the currency. For example I hear that people in Russia have things pretty cheap compared to other countries, which IMO doesn't make sense considering that Russians make up the majority of tanki's player base. Wouldn't they benefit more from raising the Russian prices?

 

However @wolverine848 is also correct that the BP is too expensive. A casual free player completing 15 missions a week would have to do that for 100 weeks, which is almost 2 years. And even with the occasional easy weekly mission, it'd still take a long time.

By then, they'd probably either have gotten almost everything or have left.

 

[Frylock 1,617]

2 minutes ago, Crossbone said:

I get where you're going at but sometimes its better to just agree to disagree. You are right that there are inconsistencies with the currency. For example I hear that people in Russia have things pretty cheap compared to other countries, which IMO doesn't make sense considering that Russians make up the majority of tanki's player base. Wouldn't they benefit more from raising the Russian prices?

 

However @wolverine848 is also correct that the BP is too expensive. A casual free player completing 15 missions a week would have to do that for 100 weeks, which is almost 2 years. And even with the occasional easy weekly mission, it'd still take a long time.

By then, they'd probably either have gotten almost everything or have left.

 

Honestly i dont blame him hes also right but I was just trying to explain the economic issue hes just explaining from f2p view in a sense we are both right.  Lol I guess its a tie again.. lol

[Frylock 1,617]

@Crossbone I honestly like a good argument. I just missed feeling this way some forumers these days need to improve in arguments. Here is good advice from me, when you make a solid argument or statements dont leave too many loopholes in your statements I tend to see these in your paragraphs or statements just letting you know so you dont get chewed up by people that can argue really well. Yet there is one person I wish to surpass when it comes to arguments. Lol my own clan leader. @yellowghetto his arguments strong as heck ngl. Lol always 2 steps ahead of me.

Edited August 2, 2021 by MysticBlood