Low player base nowadays?

[Vigour 12]

Hey guys, just came back to revisit the game after a while, and oh my god there is so much new stuff.

Anyways, thought I'd hop into a battle and my god, it was the first time I ever saw Majors and Captains together with Sergeants. 

What is this pairing? I thought the new matchmaking system took care of unfair battles? It seems like its easy to get M3s now, since everyone has them. is that the reason?

 

I can understand why a small amount of players leave, as the game is so complicated now and they move on, but if there are a difference of 13 ranks in a battle, I truely wonder what has happened to this game.

 

[Okami 3,041]

13 minutes ago, r_Chances3 said:

What is this pairing? I thought the new matchmaking system took care of unfair battles?

The matchmaking system has made really weird rank pairings for the past several months. I'm a Legend and I've seen people as low as Warrant Officer 3. I have no idea if the weird ranks are by design or a mistake, but either way it's not good.

14 minutes ago, r_Chances3 said:

It seems like its easy to get M3s now, since everyone has them. is that the reason?

Are you talking about the skins? A while ago they consolidated the skins so that everything looks like the old M3s. Even before that, the M system of upgrades was made into Mks. M0s and Mk1s are the same. M1 stats were divided between Mk2 and Mk3. M2 stats were divided between Mk4, Mk5, and Mk6. Mk7s are the same as M3s. In other words, the boost you get for one micro-upgrade has been decreased for old M1s and M2s.

18 minutes ago, r_Chances3 said:

I can understand why a small amount of players leave, as the game is so complicated now and they move on, but if there are a difference of 13 ranks in a battle, I truely wonder what has happened to this game.

Again, I really wish I could say whether the weird rank spreads are by design, a deep-seated accidental flaw in the MM system, or caused by decreasing player numbers. All of these seem like valid and plausible causes but I can't say for sure.

[Incorp 2,084]

55 minutes ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

The matchmaking system has made really weird rank pairings for the past several months. I'm a Legend and I've seen people as low as Warrant Officer 3. I have no idea if the weird ranks are by design or a mistake, but either way it's not good.

Are you talking about the skins? A while ago they consolidated the skins so that everything looks like the old M3s. Even before that, the M system of upgrades was made into Mks. M0s and Mk1s are the same. M1 stats were divided between Mk2 and Mk3. M2 stats were divided between Mk4, Mk5, and Mk6. Mk7s are the same as M3s. In other words, the boost you get for one micro-upgrade has been decreased for old M1s and M2s.

Again, I really wish I could say whether the weird rank spreads are by design, a deep-seated accidental flaw in the MM system, or caused by decreasing player numbers. All of these seem like valid and plausible causes but I can't say for sure.

I got a WO  ranked account. Saw lieutenant in a battle. Hmm..... tanki I might be skilled but better equipment I'm no match

That's what gives buyers an edge I suppose

Edited September 5, 2021 by Incorp

[Maf 32,300]

5 hours ago, Incorp said:

I got a WO  ranked account. Saw lieutenant in a battle. Hmm.....

I also saw a lieutenant in a battle, except I'm Legend...

I feel really bad for those guys that get sent in battles like that. Hell, if I see one on the enemy team and the battle is not that sweaty, I just let them kill me to get at least some score.

One thing that annoys me the most about this is that while this sort of matching is happening in-game, I still can't invite my lower ranked friends to a party in a private battle because I can't stretch the rank bracket further than Marshal 

[Incorp 2,084]

1 hour ago, Maf said:

I also saw a lieutenant in a battle, except I'm Legend...

I feel really bad for those guys that get sent in battles like that. Hell, if I see one on the enemy team and the battle is not that sweaty, I just let them kill me to get at least some score.

One thing that annoys me the most about this is that while this sort of matching is happening in-game, I still can't invite my lower ranked friends to a party in a private battle because I can't stretch the rank bracket further than Marshal 

Yeah that's right. Private battles man, we can't manipulate lower ranked kids for xp

[yellowghetto 3,206]

On 9/5/2021 at 4:41 AM, Maf said:

I also saw a lieutenant in a battle, except I'm Legend...

I feel really bad for those guys that get sent in battles like that. Hell, if I see one on the enemy team and the battle is not that sweaty, I just let them kill me to get at least some score.

One thing that annoys me the most about this is that while this sort of matching is happening in-game, I still can't invite my lower ranked friends to a party in a private battle because I can't stretch the rank bracket further than Marshal 

I find how MM works is that it throws you into a team, a TEAM that is similar to YOUR rank. MM doesn't matter about rank or GS when sending you to a team. 

For example a 6K-7K GS team vs 9999 GS team. 

A "noob" with crap GS or just lower rank is about to join. What does MM prioritize? The lower ranked/GS team. Why? Not because to balance the teams, it sends you to a team with a similar rank.

Flawed, and annoys me.

There are also times when you leave a game, and it sends you right back. When you enter queue, if you look at the bottom right "tab," if it disappears, MM is sending you to a new battle. If it doesn't disappear and your game is instantly taking you to a match. Same battle you just left, waste of time. MM can get confused by this, and you can manipulate it to switch teams.

Before I join a game, my hands are PREPARED on the Esc + Enter buttons.

[Maf 32,300]

1 hour ago, yellowghetto said:

For example a 6K-7K GS team vs 9999 GS team. 

A "noob" with crap GS or just lower rank is about to join. What does MM prioritize? The lower ranked/GS team. Why? Not because to balance the teams, it sends you to a team with a similar rank.

I really don't think that's the case.

1 hour ago, yellowghetto said:

There are also times when you leave a game, and it sends you right back.

This is really annoying. Should be a pretty simple rule that if I left a battle, I don't wanna be instantly put back there again.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

34 minutes ago, Maf said:

I really don't think that's the case.

1 hour ago, yellowghetto said:

Well, that's what I've been noticing in my matches. Occasionally the distribution of 9999 players are even, but most of the time, have you noticed one team is skewed with powerful players, while the other team is just. (derp)

 

[numericable 2,375]

On 9/5/2021 at 7:05 AM, r_Chances3 said:

Hey guys, just came back to revisit the game after a while, and oh my god there is so much new stuff.

Anyways, thought I'd hop into a battle and my god, it was the first time I ever saw Majors and Captains together with Sergeants. 

What is this pairing? I thought the new matchmaking system took care of unfair battles? It seems like its easy to get M3s now, since everyone has them. is that the reason?

 

I can understand why a small amount of players leave, as the game is so complicated now and they move on, but if there are a difference of 13 ranks in a battle, I truely wonder what has happened to this game.

 

Lucky, you still didn't see warrant officer 4 matched with legend ranks, even worse, i am legend 100+ and i have already been matched in a crystal box's matches (crystal box matches are for very very low ranks in case you didnt know it). Be prepared lol.

Tanki https://imgur.com/gallery/DeAZw0k

Edited September 8, 2021 by numericable

[Snafu 139]

On 9/4/2021 at 10:05 PM, r_Chances3 said:

what has happened to this game

Devs managed to ruin it. Almost. MM is totally messed up.

BTW, here, I'm trying to use the softest language possible. But it's getting really hard day by day.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Rank brackets were intentionally increased following the December 2020 Mad Tanks experiment. The justification was that shorter queue times are more desirable than balanced matches.

[artc 1,119]

On 9/8/2021 at 12:19 AM, numericable said:

 

If im not mistaken thise crytal boxes were available to all ranks because of an event.

Notice the BBQ party jugg.

[numericable 2,375]

3 minutes ago, artc said:

If im not mistaken thise crytal boxes were available to all ranks because of an event.

Notice the BBQ party jugg.

No, that event you are talking about took place in december, while that screen was took 3 months ago. It was a low rank battle due to the lack of players.

[artc 1,119]

58 minutes ago, numericable said:

No, that event you are talking about took place in december, while that screen was took 3 months ago. It was a low rank battle due to the lack of players.

if you look in the screen, there is a  BBQ party_091 player

Edited September 12, 2021 by artc

[numericable 2,375]

26 minutes ago, artc said:

if you look in the screen, there is a  BBQ party_091 player

And? I told you it was a screen from may-june, BBQ events takes place in summer, not winter. Also, there were no BBQ event except for one take took place in june 2020, and another in may-june 2021, it is useless to try to teach me something i perfectly remember, the date i posted it on imgur was when the event took place if you still wondering, bye.

Edited September 12, 2021 by numericable

[ghost-guns 1,486]

The matchmaking system doesn't work. Today I played in a battle with 5x9999 players on one team and none on the other. As for player numbers, the game is too unbalanced and not fun anymore for casual players.

[EmeraldCat 562]

9 minutes ago, ghost-guns said:

The matchmaking system doesn't work. Today I played in a battle with 5x9999 players on one team and none on the other. As for player numbers, the game is too unbalanced and not fun anymore for casual players.

I believe it has to do with the low amount players there are. Matchmaking wouldn't be a problem if there were a lot more people online, because then you could always find a player that's close to your level.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

16 minutes ago, ghost-guns said:

The matchmaking system doesn't work. Today I played in a battle with 5x9999 players on one team and none on the other. As for player numbers, the game is too unbalanced and not fun anymore for casual players.

4 minutes ago, EmeraldCat said:

I believe it has to do with the low amount players there are. Matchmaking wouldn't be a problem if there were a lot more people online, because then you could always find a player that's close to your level.

On 9/9/2021 at 12:17 PM, ThirdOnion said:

Rank brackets were intentionally increased following the December 2020 Mad Tanks experiment. The justification was that shorter queue times are more desirable than balanced matches.

 

[Potdindy 866]

2 hours ago, Unleash said:

In short, this is what you get for focusing on buyers.

Unleash! 

[enri_chill 135]

On 9/7/2021 at 1:53 PM, yellowghetto said:

Well, that's what I've been noticing in my matches. Occasionally the distribution of 9999 players are even, but most of the time, have you noticed one team is skewed with powerful players, while the other team is just. (derp)

 

I think that is often because once a team has exerted some level of control on the game lots of tankers (even at higher GS and rank) will immediately leave to find a more favorable outcome. I tend to stay and do my best to pick up the 3 stars for winning on the losing team (assuming the game is "lost"). This is why I think lots of higher GS players end up together. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

53 minutes ago, enri_chill said:

I think that is often because once a team has exerted some level of control on the game lots of tankers (even at higher GS and rank) will immediately leave to find a more favorable outcome. I tend to stay and do my best to pick up the 3 stars for winning on the losing team (assuming the game is "lost"). This is why I think lots of higher GS players end up together. 

I'll stay if my team is trying.

But if we're 2  tanks short, and 2 or more of the existing tanks are chatting or doing nothing, I'll bail.

[enri_chill 135]

7 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

I'll stay if my team is trying.

But if we're 2  tanks short, and 2 or more of the existing tanks are chatting or doing nothing, I'll bail.

I hear you. I have stuck around and kept fighting when down 2 or 3 and (this is on the longer battle times like 10 min) all of a sudden we get a few solid players on the team...the comeback is great. That being said, it is miserable playing a siege or control point game when I am the only one trying to cover the points. Everyone else stays back and tries to rack up kills. Argh!!! Highly frustrating. 

[Potdindy 866]

Some of these problems would be fixed if matchmaker was looked at more. If it placed more powerful players on a losing team that would keep teams even and prevent so many lopsided games

[wolverine848 13,097]

On 9/14/2021 at 1:44 PM, EmeraldCat said:

I believe it has to do with the low amount players there are. Matchmaking wouldn't be a problem if there were a lot more people online, because then you could always find a player that's close to your level.

Except there are not a lot of players.

So MM is hot garbage.

Ranks-spreads are stupid wide and MM keeps putting me in battles that are half over and out of reach.  Not a chance I stay in those battles.