declined Non-turret damage sources have a special defense type

[pocrettttt 277]

Blaster is not a drone with unknown damage, normally the damage (as far as the information I read) can be defended from the turret that a module is equipped with that.

But overdrives damages didint have it.

So i suggest some options for defense of damage-overdrives

1- All damages that are not from turret(except mines) will be considered critical damages, so armadillo can reduce all of them

2-  

2.1 - Freeze immunity reduce crusader icicle damage by 100%,resistence , 50%

2.2 - Jammer immunity reduces all overdrives fixed-damage(wasp,crusader,ares,mammoth) by 50%

[Iron_Man 2,376]

Under Review

Declined

Might I ask, why you would like to see these changes?

 

[pocrettttt 277]

6 hours ago, Iron_Man said:

Under Review

Might I ask, why you would like to see these changes?

 

The nature of overdrives is also of nature, everything has its neutrality (saying in very refined words)

I have some parts of the reason for adding this

(Before everything, i have to say that my network is 300Mbps, so its an problem that i need to be close to the russia server(that will not happen) )

1- Lag prevention When you lag for 1 second, a mammoth can eliminate you instantly, so the 7.5 meters of destruction aura turns 12 meters and I die at a long distance

2-Survive ares ball shocks that if you get distracted for 1 second you are instantly eliminated(and lag prevention of  ball too when im already at a far distance but the ball also deals damage to me)

3-Same thing with lag for bomb of wasp, im far but im one-shoted

4-Crusader just kill everyone only with the overdrive, and that have no module protection for it, you just receive one ball that come back every 1 minute and 40s, and this is one of the most hulls that have xp because of this issue,with vulcan combo

5- General damages should have some protection, its not just press shift and you delete someone(Also nerf viking pls)

[SulfuricAcid 504]

I disagree with this idea. it is not going to add fun but also reduces the excite of killing ppl with wasp bomb. e.x, a player have survived the wasp bomb bcs he had the jammer immunity

[SulfuricAcid 504]

4 hours ago, pocrettttt said:

4-Crusader just kill everyone only with the overdrive, and that have no module protection for it, you just receive one ball that come back every 1 minute and 40s, and this is one of the most hulls that have xp because of this issue,with vulcan combo

 

with boosted armor u can resist the icicle.

[wolverine848 13,097]

On 10/20/2021 at 11:40 PM, pocrettttt said:

Blaster is not a drone with unknown damage, normally the damage (as far as the information I read) can be defended from the turret that a module is equipped with that.

But overdrives damages didint have it.

So i suggest some options for defense of damage-overdrives

1- All damages that are not from turret(except mines) will be considered critical damages, so armadillo can reduce all of them

2-  

2.1 - Freeze immunity reduce crusader icicle damage by 100%,resistence , 50%

2.2 - Jammer immunity reduces all overdrives fixed-damage(wasp,crusader,ares,mammoth) by 50%

You wouldn't happen to have armadillo module, would you?   

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, SulfuricAcid said:

with boosted armor u can resist the icicle.

Even if you survive the icicle you're likely to die 2 sec later because it ALSO inflicts AP status.

[Debt-Collector 1,617]

On 10/20/2021 at 8:40 PM, pocrettttt said:

Blaster is not a drone with unknown damage, normally the damage (as far as the information I read) can be defended from the turret that a module is equipped with that.

But overdrives damages didint have it.

So i suggest some options for defense of damage-overdrives

1- All damages that are not from turret(except mines) will be considered critical damages, so armadillo can reduce all of them

2-  

2.1 - Freeze immunity reduce crusader icicle damage by 100%,resistence , 50%

2.2 - Jammer immunity reduces all overdrives fixed-damage(wasp,crusader,ares,mammoth) by 50%

This would make armadillo users way too strong. I even have the module and I have to say this is not a good idea balance wise. So this idea is a no from me. 

I would like to add that freezing immunity should just affect the freezing effect not resist damage. Secondly, why just against crusaders OD its already weak in damage. You have options such as ap immunity or freeze immunity. 100% damage reduction from crusaders Icicle would render the OD useless along with the 50% resistance. 

The purpose of jammer is to prevent the user from using the OD I think it should not effect fixed damage from other ODs. This would litterally kill the concept of ODs.

[wolverine848 13,097]

14 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

This would litterally kill the concept of ODs.

You make this sound like a negative thing.   

[pocrettttt 277]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

You wouldn't happen to have armadillo module, would you?   

Well, yes, and because of that is rare, its the best "rare type of module for OD defense" ,like giving paladin soon will be a lot of toxic all-immunitys, but  resistence for od damage for everyone is not one of the bests things(Also i putted on jammer to be not that op augment)

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

Even if you survive the icicle you're likely to die 2 sec later because it ALSO inflicts AP status.

Yes, but no, if you are using med or heavy hulls you have to lose 3000 hp and that costs a little of time and shots if the enemy is using long-turrets of big recharges

 

1 hour ago, MysticBlood said:

This would make armadillo users way too strong. I even have the module and I have to say this is not a good idea balance wise. So this idea is a no from me. 

I would like to add that freezing immunity should just affect the freezing effect not resist damage. Secondly, why just against crusaders OD its already weak in damage. You have options such as ap immunity or freeze immunity. 100% damage reduction from crusaders Icicle would render the OD useless along with the 50% resistance. 

The purpose of jammer is to prevent the user from using the OD I think it should not effect fixed damage from other ODs. This would litterally kill the concept of ODs.

They already are, im just trying to fit where is the best way to introduce this resistence of od damages, because need to start of somewhere to introduce and develop the idea

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Im not sure about it but crusader overdrive its a icicle  ball, "that is an freeze ball" im following that if you cant be freezed, you also have resistence for damage of an freeze (heat resistence have reduction of burning damage, freeze should do the same)

And apart for jammer, thats an immunity with as the subject of overdrives, everything that is handled and has the overdrive label should be introduced into jammer immu

 

 

[pocrettttt 277]

2 hours ago, SulfuricAcid said:

with boosted armor u can resist the icicle.

Enemy actives boosted damage*

[wolverine848 13,097]

On 10/23/2021 at 4:25 PM, pocrettttt said:

Well, yes,

So your suggestion is self-serving.

In any event your suggestion would it make it way too OP, and it's a "buyer" module.  So... thumbs down to your idea.

[pocrettttt 277]

6 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

So your suggestion is self-serving.

In any event your suggestion would it make it way too OP, and it's a "buyer" module.  So... thumbs down to your idea.

Not exacly, im trying to find where should put this reduction of od damages,since that probability will be a rare recourse or a special augment of hull

also my armadillo was on free container

[wolverine848 13,097]

10 minutes ago, pocrettttt said:

Not exacly, im trying to find where should put this reduction of od damages,since that probability will be a rare recourse or a special augment of hull

also my armadillo was on free container

1) it doesn't need to go anywhere

2) yes... if you are making a suggestion that improves something you own by a large margin - by definition that IS self-serving.

[Iron_Man 2,376]

Status changed to "Declined"

Users of armadillo already have a huge benefit by the way, I've survived Crusader's icicle myself, which means that you can as well , at least if that is what you are scared of.

[Incorp 2,084]

27 minutes ago, Iron_Man said:

Status changed to "Declined"

Users of armadillo already have a huge benefit by the way, I've survived Crusader's icicle myself, which means that you can as well , at least if that is what you are scared of.

The icicle only deals 1k damage right.

[pocrettttt 277]

3 hours ago, Incorp said:

The icicle only deals 1k damage right.

2k 

And if you are an light hull, your fate is just die, because didint exist augment protections for that

[Incorp 2,084]

12 minutes ago, pocrettttt said:

2k 

And if you are an light hull, your fate is just die, because didint exist augment protections for that

AP immunity and 20 MU brutus let's him deal only 1k damage or if you are under dome even better.

[pocrettttt 277]

12 minutes ago, Incorp said:

AP immunity and 20 MU brutus let's him deal only 1k damage or if you are under dome even better.

Im not sure if you dont know, but the damage of crusader increase with  booster damage and booster drone, you will never defense that 

Also 2k is the base-damage of crusader, the ap immunity does not reduces the damage of that od

Ap is an armor-breaking thing, that ignores MODULES and boost ARMOR, not direct damages

[Incorp 2,084]

2 minutes ago, pocrettttt said:

Im not sure if you dont know, but the damage of crusader increase with  booster damage and booster drone, you will never defense that 

Also 2k is the base-damage of crusader, the ap immunity does not reduces the damage of that od

Ap is an armor-breaking thing, that ignores MODULES and boost ARMOR, not direct damages

Well AP immunity gives you immunity against AP so under titan dome you're good.