How can Railgun one-shot a full-health Mammoth with boosted armor?

[ekf 88]

And why does Scorpion's missiles sometimes instantly kill you (first missile in the barrage one-shot you with max-health Mammoth with boosted armor), when usually what happens is that each missiles does a little bit of damage and if you're hit by them all you die, but if you use a repair-kit at the right moment you can survive.

I wonder if this is a glitch, server issues, or "bugs" that TO deliberately made to make it OP. I know War Thunder does that.

[JustBlackWolf 875]

The Railgun was probably using Hyperspace rounds or maybe even Large Calibre Rounds with Booster/Crisis, the recent buff made it a nice augment to use on Railgun.
Scorpion's missiles deal way too much damage, and very often you'll die even with 50% protection against them and double armor too, and even using a repair kit.

My advice is that you start getting used to oneshots because this game has plenty due to it being unfair, unbalanced, pay2win and garbage.

Edited January 5, 2023 by JustBlackWolf

[cybernite 93]

Ya, also this rail could have been using Camper drone which does huge damage boost as long as you are at full health.

Ekf you using just brutus drone maxed with boosted armor? You should try defender drone maxed up; also with armadillo 50%; the right protection modules for the match.

On the stadium map Siege game; I was able to survive in the center CP (point) and was shot constantly (like 4-5 gauss shooting me heh). Luckily with Mammoth

the OD is like a 2nd Repair Kit....and I won the point barely. But luckily there wasn't any thunder hyperspeed with crisis; or hyperspace rail.

Ya, in siege watch out for akuma.goat and 2 isidas... they heal one another...and akuma.goat hyperspace rail shoots thru them; quite deadly. But I have to admit

that use of hyperspace rail is ingenious.

 

 

 

[ekf 88]

On 1/5/2023 at 12:36 PM, cybernite said:

Ya, also this rail could have been using Camper drone which does huge damage boost as long as you are at full health.

Ekf you using just brutus drone maxed with boosted armor? You should try defender drone maxed up; also with armadillo 50%; the right protection modules for the match.

On the stadium map Siege game; I was able to survive in the center CP (point) and was shot constantly (like 4-5 gauss shooting me heh). Luckily with Mammoth

the OD is like a 2nd Repair Kit....and I won the point barely. But luckily there wasn't any thunder hyperspeed with crisis; or hyperspace rail.

Ya, in siege watch out for akuma.goat and 2 isidas... they heal one another...and akuma.goat hyperspace rail shoots thru them; quite deadly. But I have to admit

that use of hyperspace rail is ingenious.

 

 

 

Did you use Defender?

I use Mammoth/Shaft and mostly stay at long range, sometimes camp, but also play aggressive too. I dont know if Defender or Booster would be the best.

Using the Mammoth's OD as a 2nd repair kit is great I think. Even if it's meant to be a short-range oriented OD, because of how quickly it recharges compared to Titan and Ares, I think it's a good OD even if it's just a 2nd repair-kit.

[ekf 88]

On 1/5/2023 at 12:17 PM, JustBlackWolf said:

The Railgun was probably using Hyperspace rounds or maybe even Large Calibre Rounds with Booster/Crisis, the recent buff made it a nice augment to use on Railgun.
Scorpion's missiles deal way too much damage, and very often you'll die even with 50% protection against them and double armor too, and even using a repair kit.

My advice is that you start getting used to oneshots because this game has plenty due to it being unfair, unbalanced, pay2win and garbage.

It's indeed frustrating and unfun.

I try to be willing to accept some P2W garbage, because maybe otherwise the game wouldn't exist. It needs to be profitable. But there needs to be a balance, somehow.

I also agree with DaringDeer that all tanks should get maybe 25% more HP, because the kill times are way too short. All weapons feel too powerful in general IMO.

And as a heavy tank player I'd gladly give up some speed if it meant I could have enough HP to really be able to use HP as my advantage in battle, instead of just having 1/3 more HP than a medium tank, or survive 1-2 more Thunder hits.

Edited January 5, 2023 by ekf

[AncientFire 1,894]

Railgun can 1 shot you if they are using Large caliber rounds with maxed crisis or camper drone

I used to have it on test server long ago and I would do 3800 damage per shot to unprotected opponents, enough to sometimes 1 shot slightly damaged heavy hulls

Also scorpion killing you with the first rocket is probably just lag, happened to me a lot too

[ekf 88]

On 1/5/2023 at 1:16 PM, AncientFire said:

Railgun can 1 shot you if they are using Large caliber rounds with maxed crisis or camper drone

I used to have it on test server long ago and I would do 3800 damage per shot to unprotected opponents, enough to sometimes 1 shot slightly damaged heavy hulls

Also scorpion killing you with the first rocket is probably just lag, happened to me a lot too

I should add that me and him had similar gearscores, around 5000. I don't know if that means it's impossible he could've used maxed Crisis or Camper.

Maybe I was slightly damaged but didn't noticed.

[avengeful 111]

On 1/5/2023 at 5:20 PM, ekf said:

I should add that me and him had similar gearscores, around 5000. I don't know if that means it's impossible he could've used maxed Crisis or Camper.

Maybe I was slightly damaged but didn't noticed.

Being one shot by reilgun isnt impossible, as others mentioned there are augments which increase dmg dramatically, and even without such augments, its possible someone(maybe even he) used hornet overdrive right before shooting, so it was guaranteed critical and also you were applied ap status effect so you no longer had boosted armor and maybe you didnt notice ap status effect because it was too fast, idk. but its not that surprising. 

[opwsdj 40]

I can one shot a full health juggernaut with hyperspace rounds with enough allies standing in front of me, no surprise for mammoth

[cybernite 93]

ekf I used the maxed out: defender drone, mammoth hull, 50% armadillo  and somewhat right protections (gauss, magnum..etc).  I was able to survive in the center stadium map in a Siege match; and I was damn proud of myself.

The balance of the game will change now cause augments like twins pulsar sort of ruin it.

What would be the best Hull immunity to survive pulsar? 

Some say stun and in another message congospider was saying AP immunity (and Dolphin)  is best vs smoky pulsar.

I survived afew times if quick enough with a repair kit; but most of the time usually die.

 

[PirateSpider 1,489]

Feed the mammoth enough cheese burgers and it'll eventually explode on its own.

Edited January 6, 2023 by PirateSpider

[Me0w_XP 523]

On 1/5/2023 at 6:57 PM, cybernite said:

What would be the best Hull immunity to survive pulsar? 

Some say stun and in another message congospider was saying AP immunity (and Dolphin)  is best vs smoky pulsar.

According to Congo, pulsar effect lengths depend on the turret's status augment (EMP twins is 1 sec, Pulsar Twins EMP is 1 sec, etc). Thus, you might have to look for the deadliest/longest effect to know what to take against it. 

[Incorp 2,084]

I would choose emp or stun immunity because it can help you survive in my opinion. 

[ekf 88]

On 1/6/2023 at 1:12 AM, PirateSpider said:

Feed the mammoth enough cheese burgers and it'll eventually explode on its own.

It's not fat, it's pure muscle. Afterall, the Mammoth is the fastest of all heavy tanks

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 1/5/2023 at 8:17 PM, ekf said:

It's not fat, it's pure muscle. Afterall, the Mammoth is the fastest of all heavy tanks

Anything can be fat if you have the right attitude.

[cybernite 93]

Didn't they change it where all Heavy hulls have same TOP SPEED? Trickster drone really helps Mammoth; I have been using it abit lately

and it has helped me in Siege and CP. But I played alittle CTF/RUGBY and did sort of good.