declined Remove Players from battle if they do not do damage/heal in certain time (Reason)

[mrvomit 106]

Lately i see too many players parking /hidden to do perhaps missions , detrimental to battles and NOT KICKED OUT  at all.
They either gives a bad hype to the battle if the team is losing causing more people to leave , or even cause other people to stop battle too and give up,  or play "faintly" sort of dm .
In those kind of battles also IF PEOPLE JOIN  and see not-playing tanks , they leave right away ( with reason ) 
Aware of the Kick out , those players  just slight move or do a random charge once in a while .
It 's also more annoying to see it when the team is struggling , to have mates in battles just staying there , give a sense of absolute loss.
******ENFORCING the KICK-OUT so players MUST play  the battle could be a nice idea*****.
Like:
" if they do not Heal or do damage in a certain amount of time they get kicked out  "  . 1 minute should be enough , or slightly more ( but not much ). So they are forced to do  it , or take isida  and do the bare heal, at least something , and doing that for passing time is not fun so they wil lessen it .
Anyway they are forced to play, cause is literally IMPOSSIBLE to do 0 damage  or 0 heal even if you lose so is not detrimental to anyone .
That will not stop but will limit it , i mean is pretty dumb to play damage to play it ( it will happen) but will be better than 0-Nothing for the rest of the team !

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ps: aware that in certain camp maps that could be difficult , but i have yet to see in 1:30 minutes someone doing 0 damage. It will also rend the battles more interesting forcing "uber camping" people to do a slight more change, and the battles more dynamic

[Ghost 279]

Declined. 

Tanki Online had a voiting/kicking system. Players just abused the power of kicking other Players out, to get their own mates in.  (You had to get a certain amount of votes and it's not a big deal if you have friends in the battle)
In matchmaking it would be the same, as example you with 2 other friends are in a group and vote kicking one player who is not doing well. (Compared to you and your friends) 

It's not like you are the only one with those players in battle. Trust me, time to time you see those kind of players. 
And as soon as the game would add such a system back in the game, other players wouldn't be happy about it and would not play the game at all. 

In game violation can be voted by pressing tab and clicking vote on the player who is violating the game rules. 
You can get more information about in game violation here: https://ru.tankiforum.com/topic/173153/

[PirateSpider 1,489]

What if they're lagging? Wouldnt be fair for them to be kicked because of it.

[mrvomit 106]

On 3/6/2023 at 10:59 AM, Madara said:

Declined. 

Tanki Online had a voiting/kicking system. Players just abused the power of kicking other Players out, to get their own mates in.  (You had to get a certain amount of votes and it's not a big deal if you have friends in the battle)
In matchmaking it would be the same, as example you with 2 other friends are in a group and vote kicking one player who is not doing well. (Compared to you and your friends) 

It's not like you are the only one with those players in battle. Trust me, time to time you see those kind of players. 
And as soon as the game would add such a system back in the game, other players wouldn't be happy about it and would not play the game at all. 

In game violation can be voted by pressing tab and clicking vote on the player who is violating the game rules. 
You can get more information about in game violation here: https://ru.tankiforum.com/topic/173153/

O-o  ,   i think you answered to a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT topic   ( not sure mine )  or did read just the title and figured else  .., "vote" and stuff ..  what ??  
I did n ot mention it , never seen a player kicked for that , just checked if is^ bad mouthing^ and banned from chat , i spoke entirely about else , and is the 
Upgrade of "inactivity kickout" 
 

 

On 3/6/2023 at 5:26 PM, PirateSpider said:

What if they're lagging? Wouldnt be fair for them to be kicked because of it.

1 minute and 30 .. try to play even lagging is impossible to do :"0"damage   ( i know cause it happens to me too)   ;and beside that , WOULD YOU PLAY a battle with that kind of lag O-o ?  like playing soccer into snow .

[Maf 32,300]

On 3/6/2023 at 12:38 PM, mrvomit said:

Anyway they are forced to play, cause is literally IMPOSSIBLE to do 0 damage  or 0 heal even if you lose so is not detrimental to anyone .

This is incorrect. I've seen plenty of battles where the enemy team isn't strong enough to carry out an attack, so they never reach your team's base, but one of your teammates is sitting at base with Mammoth Freeze and covering it with mines. He can't possibly deal damage since no one is able to reach the base, but what he's doing isn't useless either, since there's always a chance that MM will give the enemy team some powerful new players who will suddenly become a serious threat.

Do you expect this defender to scramble to find an enemy to damage so he doesn't get kicked out, and risk getting killed and losing all the mines? That doesn't seem fair.

I don't think there can be a perfect "anti-noob" system that doesn't inadvertently punish honest players with certain niche playstyles. In fat, I don't think such a system should exist at all. Noobs will always exist and they deserve the right to play. I think we should just learn to accept it.

I agree that Madara's message is rather odd, but the idea stays declined, sorry,

[Ghost 279]

On 3/7/2023 at 7:38 AM, mrvomit said:

O-o  ,   i think you answered to a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT topic   ( not sure mine )  or did read just the title and figured else  .., "vote" and stuff ..  what ??  
I did n ot mention it , never seen a player kicked for that , just checked if is^ bad mouthing^ and banned from chat , i spoke entirely about else , and is the 
Upgrade of "inactivity kickout" 

Then I'm sorry for that. 
But still as Maf already said:

On 3/7/2023 at 10:23 AM, Maf said:

I don't think there can be a perfect "anti-noob" system that doesn't inadvertently punish honest players with certain niche playstyles.

I think something like a in-game notification would be better than kicking players completely out. 
"Hey it seems like you can't/you don't deal dmg." (Something like that) 

[mrvomit 106]

On 3/7/2023 at 10:34 AM, Madara said:

Then I'm sorry for that. 
But still as Maf already said:

I think something like a in-game notification would be better than kicking players completely out. 
"Hey it seems like you can't/you don't deal dmg." (Something like that) 

that's really a cool added  idea !!  , but also to remove them if they do not do it after first warning . Also afraid they would do bare minimum. i swear , a lot of battles i see people staying still  even today or stopping playing ,doing nothing but staying still and move slightly ( i did watch with more attention cause i opened a topic so wanted to be sure of what i say)    ; it  is not only noob , is detrimental to game , which do need people ..playing .
i just mean the ckecking about the same time that "true inactivity"  ,not something unfair as to ckick out mindlessy .
BTW you get kicked out by shooting and not moving ( or so once happened , dunno how is it now since i'm not a camper from ages ) which is unfair instead,
Thank you for checking again after my point ,fair .
 

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 3/6/2023 at 10:38 PM, mrvomit said:

minute and 30 .. try to play even lagging is impossible to do :"0"damage   ( i know cause it happens to me too)   ;and beside that , WOULD YOU PLAY a battle with that kind of lag O-o ?  like playing soccer into snow .

If there was only a few minutes in the battle and I have missions that require me to finish the battle, then yes, I would suck it up and deal with it.

If I leave, then I would have to wait at least another 15 minutes to progress in the mission. Or longer if I need to be in the winning team.

[dinek789 60]

On 3/6/2023 at 10:59 AM, Madara said:

Declined. 

Tanki Online had a voiting/kicking system. Players just abused the power of kicking other Players out, to get their own mates in.  (You had to get a certain amount of votes and it's not a big deal if you have friends in the battle)
In matchmaking it would be the same, as example you with 2 other friends are in a group and vote kicking one player who is not doing well. (Compared to you and your friends) 

It's not like you are the only one with those players in battle. Trust me, time to time you see those kind of players. 
And as soon as the game would add such a system back in the game, other players wouldn't be happy about it and would not play the game at all. 

In game violation can be voted by pressing tab and clicking vote on the player who is violating the game rules. 
You can get more information about in game violation here: https://ru.tankiforum.com/topic/173153/

You are incorrect. While there was a system in the early days of tanki where we could kick players based on votes and so it was abused, you can still improve the system not decline it.  And so, to better the system, make it so that players cannot vote other players just like that. It should be something like this: 

The battle is 15 minutes long. At the 10:00 mark, the "voting system" is enabled and from that time you can vote a player out if he has a lower score than 40. You cannot vote anyone else. I think this is reasonable, If you cannot get 40 points in 5 minutes then you are useless

[mrvomit 106]

Thankful that i got a bit of polite answer after my remark  , not grateful that did stay "declined"  though it was completely misunderstood in first instance  without to read . But learned that lesson too  , i will never mind to  propose anything again ,  good for all ^^  let things go the way they are    cheers