event Summer eSports TankiFund 2023

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/15/2023 at 9:36 AM, Assasin-TO said:

In terms of paints, we have 11 paints, as compared to 0 in the last fund. [+1] (I think that they'll look good on LC skins because most of them have a  light tone)

Pretty disappointing that they're all the same kind of paint, just different colors. I'd prefer if 4 of them were animated paints and 3 of them were non animated paints of the epic category.

On 6/15/2023 at 9:36 AM, Assasin-TO said:

In terms of skins we have only 2, as compared to 6 in the last fund. [-1] (I love the new hunter gt)

The last fund had 3 legacy skins in there which was lame. I prefer a GT combo, a legacy combo, and an XT combo for variety.

On 6/15/2023 at 9:36 AM, Assasin-TO said:

In terms of augments, we have 2 as compared to 5 in the last fund. [-1] (Hunter driver is nice, ngl)

The last funds augments were all pulsars. Again lack of variety. I'd rather 1 pulsar, 1 augment that inflicts a status effect, and the rest have interesting mechanics.

On 6/15/2023 at 9:36 AM, Assasin-TO said:

In terms of skin conts, we have 1 as compared to 0 in the last fund. [+1] (Hope i don't get hopper xt tho)

Its actually pretty nice to get a surprise skin.

On 6/15/2023 at 9:36 AM, Assasin-TO said:

In terms of module, we have 3, as compared to 1 in the last fund. [+1] Don't get me wrong, arma is good but old tankers must also realise that new tankers have to buy 3 out of 4 module slots now)

I think 1 module slot per fund is enough. That's 2 spaces that could be used for better things.

On 6/15/2023 at 9:36 AM, Assasin-TO said:

In terms of drones, we have 0, instead of 2 in the last fund. [-1] (Bad)

They should give us 1 fully upgraded drone that isn't Brutus or crisis.

On 6/15/2023 at 9:36 AM, Assasin-TO said:

In terms of battle passes, we have 1 this time, instead of 0 in the last fund. [+1] (That's an objectively good thing, lmao)

It'd be interesting if it was a special item which we can use on any future challenges. For example, there's an interesting challenge happening in October, it'd be cool if we could save it up till then.

On 6/15/2023 at 9:36 AM, Assasin-TO said:

Think twice before hating on this fund, fellow tankers

I'm equally disappointed on the last fund and this fund. The last had 5 pulsars and 3 legacies, which was nearly half of the reward pool. This fund is mostly filler.

[tank7 320]

[The_Resistance 135]

I'll just wait for fund to reach 50M and then buy the bundle)) 

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

Where the hell are the Skin Containers. Years ago, Tanki Funds gave 3-4-5-6 Skin Containers; now, only 1 ? Last fund, nothing. I prefer the Skin Containers, to see the surprise you get when you open it.

And 1 million to the Fund for last reward ?  Why not 5 Skin Containers !

Don't know what to say... This will be the 5 Fund for me. In previous 4, won 1 Fund, nothing in the next 3. Guess I'll wait if we reach level 35-40.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

So when can we participate? I don't see the bundles in the shop of either the mobile or pc versions.

[Vacuum 76]

On 6/16/2023 at 8:19 AM, PirateSpider said:

So when can we participate? I don't see the bundles in the shop of either the mobile or pc versions.

@PirateSpider you can buy bundle from monday until july 13th

[emrakul 7,801]

On 6/16/2023 at 2:19 AM, SvinafellTroll said:

I wonder how much they paid this guy to hype up the fund.

Nothing, I spent my time to write it because looking at previous comments I think many people won't look any further into the fund than "omg we aren't getting 15 broken augments for 1k tk, this fund is trash, why do you even bother???"

On 6/16/2023 at 2:19 AM, SvinafellTroll said:

"statistically close to free"

easy with the big words buddy. what does that even mean. There is nothing "free" about this fund. It's like saying my gym and buffet i frequent are "free" because I dont pay anything after the *initial fee*

If you know how tanki funds work, I don't need to explain this. If not, check the spoiler. It explains why it is statistically free, even tho you spend 1000 tankoins, if you participate in multiple funds, you are statistically guaranteed to keep your tankoin balance intact.

Spoiler

So, you buy the cheap bundle for 1k. Most people will do this, because it's the best value, just 1k for all the rewards from fund.
Now what happens? Let's assume 8 players do this (you can pretend it's 8000 players so that it looks more realistic to you, but I'm just explaining how it works). 8 players buying 1 cheapest bundle each results in 8k fund. For each 8k added to fund there is one winner picked (this is from the rules). So 8k in fund = one of the 8 players wins. 1 in 8 is 12.5% chance to win. So statistically, you have (at least) 12.5% chance to win 8000 tankoins (this is not true for esports fund, but there's more variables linked, it's easier to explain with 8k which is given in regular funds and the difference in this fund is actually small), which results in 1000 tankoins won on average. Yes, this is only statistically. You either win or lose, but there have been so many different ways to get tankoins as a f2p, such as tokens of apology, you still earn a little tankoins every month from weekly conts and challenges. Why do I mention this? You may be unlucky once few times in a fund, but with every fund you have higher total chance to win at least one of them, and once you win, you replenish all the tankoins you previously spent, either getting you back to where you started, or even getting you some extra tankoins. Then you don't spend those tankoins and instead continue buying tanki funds. You'll end up in a statistically infinite loop of buying every tanki fund and receiving the fund rewards for basically free. Of course you can always get unlucky and never win, but you can also get super lucky and win few times in row. On average you get your tankoins back over 5-7 tanki funds. That is 5000 - 7000 tankoins you need to earn first, which takes about a year (but there are only 4 tanki funds per year as far as I know, so you'll be earning them faster than you can spend).

 

To mention your analogy, the gym would give you some free stuff, which would be equivalent to some extra ultra containers or some other stuff in tanki fund. But that's already part of the items you get from fund. I'm talking about getting the tankoins back over a number of fund participations. On average it's between 5 and 7 funds, because the win rate varies.

The gym won't offer you a cash payback that's equivalent to 8x the price you paid for the initial fee, with 15-20% chance to win. Neither tanki is returning cash, but we are looking at this from f2p perspective, who earned the tankoins by playing, so returning those tankins is same as getting the cash back.

 

To shortly repeat - the chance to win is at least 12.5% and since winners get 8k tankoins, you end up getting back on average 1000 tankoins per fund, which covers the price paid and you get the fund rewards for "free" as I mentioned in my previous post. So no, you analogy is wrong, and my "free" signifies than if you participate in many funds, in the end you'll be neither in profit or loss effectively meaning you paid nothing for all the rewards from all the tanki funds.

The chance is actually higher than 12.5% due to the more expensive bundles, usually between 15% and 20%, so even tho you are only winning ~7200 tankoins in this fund, you are in fact gaining tankoins while participating in fund lol (0.15x7200 = 1080).

 

On 6/16/2023 at 2:19 AM, SvinafellTroll said:

"slightly less worth to buy the small one if your goal is winning tankoins"

funny guy i tell ya. As far as I know, 1 bundle = 1 ticket, regardless of bundle size. This is just blatant misinformation

This one is quite obvious.

First bundle costs you 1k tankoins. You get one ticket.

Second bundle costs you 3k tankoins. You get one ticket.

Third bundle costs you 20k tankoins. You get one ticket.

 

Each of these 3 tickets gives you equal chance to win ONE share of the tanki fund, which will be close to 7200 tankoins in this one. The chance to win will be at least 12.5% and most likely 15% - 17% due to the increased chance thanks to the extra 1 million tankoin bonuses in the fund itself and second and third bundle. Let's use 15%.

If you bought the first bundle, you will receive on average 7200 x 15% = 1080 tankoins.

If you bought the second bundle, you will receive on average 7200 x 15% = 1080 tankoins.

If you bought the third bundle, you will receive on average 7200 x 15% = 1080 tankoins.

Wait what?? You get on average the same amount of tankoins per bundle?? Yes. Each ticket is the same, so the more expensive tickets are worse value than the first bundle. So in fact, buying the first bundle is best choice to return your tankoins, the second bundle gives you ultra containers at a price comparable with the other cheapest options of purchasing ultra containers, but I think it's not worth for a free to play player.

Now, "slightly less worth to buy the small one if your goal is winning tankoins" was talking about something else, while it probably wasn't clear (even tho I mentioned right after that in brackets: "compared to previous funds")

What I meant is the first, 1k bundle is less worth to purchase in this tanki fund, than it was in last tanki fund, because of the change to the second 3k bundle. I'll explain how does the second bundle impact the chance to win.

Spoiler

I'll write 4 examples. (only comparing the chances this time)

 

1) 16 players buy 1k bundle, adding total 16k tankoins to fund. Two of them win, with chance of 12.5%.

 

2) Imagine a scenario, where all 16 players instead buy the second, 3k bundle. This bundle adds 1500 tankoins to fund. So 16x 1500 = 24000 tankoins. That is 3 winners and since we pick 3 winners from 16 participants, the chance to win is 3/16 = 18.75%.

 

3) Now let's look at the second bundle in last fund (and funds before that). It costed 6k tankions and added 3000 tk to fund. So 16 players would add 48000 tankoins to fund, resulting in 6 winners. That is 6/16 = 37.5%

 

4) Now let's combine it to think about a realistic fund, where some players buy 1k bundle and some buy the 3k bundle. The resulting chance will be between 12.5% and 18.75% in this fund, but in last fund it was between 12.5% and 37.5%

 

That's a huge difference, however, the number of second bundles is very small compared to the number of 1k bundles, so the final chance was dragged under 20%. Either way, most likely the average chance to win the tanki fund will be decreased, compared to the LAST tanki fund. And since the chance to win is equal for everyone (for every ticket), your 1k bundle had higher chance to win in last tanki fund, than it most likely has this fund. Thus the statement "slightly less worth to buy the small one if your goal is winning tankoins". I mentioned it's compared to previous funds, but maybe it wasn't clear enough.

Now, I noticed this fund will last for about a week longer than birthday fund, so I think we have decent chance to complete it.

[Jack 417]

On 6/16/2023 at 10:46 AM, Gabku said:

Ofc mods be taking down any posts that critique the new fund...nice implementation of free speach :DD

We appreciate the fact you would like to share your thoughts along with everyone else, and it's more than welcome (hence why we even have certain threads - ideas and suggestions). Giving the game your feedback and ideas only help the devs to get a better view from everyone, although when it's in hatred or negative terms towards the staffing and helpers then that will not be tolerated. And blatant hatred with no context towards helping are just unnecessary and unhealthy for the topic. End of discussion.

[NlDZO 591]

This will be my first tankifound and people say it's the worst ever... unlucky me 
but I just want that yellow paint

[mjmj5558 2,346]

On 6/15/2023 at 10:26 PM, TargetXAcquired said:

the rewards are crap

Not for this price. If the fund will be as sucessful as the previous ones, then it's absolutely a bargain. You get a battle pass (which is already 700 tankoins), so for 290 tankoins you buy: 39 ultra containers, two skins, a skin container, a lot of normal containers and some augments. If such an offer would pop up for you in the garage, would you buy it? But in this fund, you can even get a chance to get back ~7200 tankoins, which is way more than you've spent. What is crap in this?

[yuvraj007 302]

I thought rewards quality were directly proportional to the level reached in tanki funds. The last set of rewards are supposed to be unique, exotic, dreamy etc.

Here we are getting a freaking paint (not even animated i believe) at level 49, just as in level 3. 

Yes tanki funds are always worth the 990 tankoins, but you cannot deny the huge drop of rewards quality in this one.

I'm out

Edited June 16, 2023 by yuvraj007

[Showbot 819]

bro you just had good fund rewards like 5 days ago... chill out guys, literally 5 days ago there was another good fund.

i could just argue the fact that there is only 1 skin cont and not 2 for example, other than that its a normal tanki fund given the circumstance that there was another one some days ago, which means, they cant overload this fund with as good rewards as the one 5 days ago... cause it makes sense and thats about it

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/16/2023 at 1:44 PM, mjmj5558 said:

You get a battle pass (which is already 700 tankoins)

And when you use it ? I only but Battle Pass only if I don't have a Skin. If I got a Skin, not buying the Battle Pass. But the reward from Tanki Fund, the Battle Pass ? It will be activated when Tanki Funds ends ? Well, that is total crap... Let the Battle Pass stay in my garage till I use it. Not automatically like the Premium Pass.

Edited June 16, 2023 by x_Sorinel_x

[galziv01 153]

I will take part of this tankifund beacuse of these three reasons:

1. Battle pass. It is a way to get more gold and containers (75 max total)  as well as another skin once you finish the challenge. So actually there are two skins in this tankifund and another one you might get once you finish the challenge and you save 700 tankoins for buying the battle pass.

2. A driver augment for hunter. It might be very OP for that hull. Too bad it is not maxed out on my account, but it is still an awesome thing to have in battles

3. There is still the giveaway that has a probability to gain 7200 tankoins (or more with the 1 Million addition for every 10 levels). I took part in the last tankifund with two accounts and got 8000 tankoins in one of them.

So if I pay 1000 tankoins and if the fund reaches level 35, I actually get many of the tankifund prizes for just 300 tankoins and a chance to win many more. Now that's a deal!

Count me in!

Edited June 16, 2023 by galziv01

[SvinafellTroll 94]

On 6/16/2023 at 5:57 AM, emrakul said:

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morale of the story - im not going to argue with this chat mod ever again. Poked the wrong bear!

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yes the statistics makes sense, but I (and I bet a lot of others don't have as long term of  view as you do). You would have to enter every fund for 2-4 years to recoup your 1k payments from a win. Lots of people get disappointed that they dont win, but that should be the expectation.... you are expected not to win the fund! Also f2p players likely cant afford to join every tanki fund so that hurts their ability to recoup their tankoins too. There are other neat events and some nice battle passes that are worth buying into.

 

With that being said, after watching the vlog today, i think theres a good chance that they'll issue another token, so theres a good chance that tanki will just fund the fund itself. 

 

[PRC-BRIDGES01 4]

The tanki fund is OK yet,for that it's released just after such a short time since last one ended.I hope I can see more tanki fund like this with higher frequncy and rewards worth not so much.Anyway it's good for players like me who cant afford to invest a big amount of dollars in the game.

[Akame 4,577]

On 6/15/2023 at 7:33 PM, emrakul said:

Wow, I'm not gonna comment too much on the issues everyone seems to have, the rewards are good considering they are statistically close to free. I don't need more pulsars, no thank you. Hunter's driver augment for free will already be pain.

The 3 important changes:

Obviously 50m fund. I don't know if we are finishing this one, BUT the second and third change might make it possible.

2990 tk second bundle. This change is insane. The price, containers and tankoins added to fund are halved, but you are getting an extra fund ticket for half the price. I can't think of what the calculation ends up as, because it depends on the ratio of these bundles, but it's certainly more worth to buy second bundle and it's slightly less worth to buy the small one if your goal is winning tankoins. (compared to previous funds). I'll still most likely not buy it, but if people were purchasing the second bundle previously, it'll be even more popular this time. The average price for the 20 UC in the bundle is 75 tankoins per UC (that's almost the best price you can get, ever).

+1m tk "gifts". They are really a huge change, if we reach 46m tk, the fund itself adds 5m more, which roughly covers the amount given to esport players. Winners will still be getting around 7.2k, but the chance to win will be slightly higher.

 

Personally, I'm happy if I get the skin container, don't need anything else.

All in all, still a tankifund I would recommend to all players, expect for those who are fully f2p/limited and are waiting for a specific paint/augment/skin from a future bp.

People will always complain no matter what, it's pretty common now, all they want is token of apologies and like unlimited augments and skins for less than 1K tk. Like as if the value of the prizes isn't far superior to most other events which are heavily paywalled (cough space type event).

If we look at it objectively, this fund shouldn't be hard to complete; only need a maximum of 46'000 accounts to spend a minimum of 990 tk. Naturally many have alts to purchase these funds too, we've all seen the northstar/mapc accounts etc. This should theoretically be more than possible to do. Along with some players buying the 2nd bundle and potentially a 3rd bundle to reduce the maximum needed. But it will probably be missed due to the pessimistic and ungrateful approach towards the prizes.

[Akame 4,577]

On 6/16/2023 at 1:02 PM, Showbot said:

 

i could just argue the fact that there is only 1 skin cont and not 2 for example

990 tk for a chance for many players to get this guaranteed, is a dub regardless even if alone.

[Rooky 414]

The best tanki fund I have ever seen so far, I would like to take a part of it, lovely how they will give out battle pass from the fund at 13th July (when the fund ends) and if the skin of the challenge July A is good, then we're going to get like 2 skins for 990 so far

man I hope you don't change anything, even the paints would look much better on legacy skins, what a lovely fund

[emrakul 7,801]

On 6/16/2023 at 5:30 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

morale of the story - im not going to argue with this chat mod ever again. Poked the wrong bear!

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yes the statistics makes sense, but I (and I bet a lot of others don't have as long term of  view as you do). You would have to enter every fund for 2-4 years to recoup your 1k payments from a win. Lots of people get disappointed that they dont win, but that should be the expectation.... you are expected not to win the fund! Also f2p players likely cant afford to join every tanki fund so that hurts their ability to recoup their tankoins too. There are other neat events and some nice battle passes that are worth buying into.

 

With that being said, after watching the vlog today, i think theres a good chance that they'll issue another token, so theres a good chance that tanki will just fund the fund itself. 

 

Mostly a wiki editor.

I believe a lot of players play the game for at least a year. In most cases it's already worth, but of course I understand they might not have the tankoins to afford this, because they are just playing casually. In most cases tanki funds are still the best offer one can get, for example in this one you can get (assuming it gets finished) 3 module slots, so a new player would get all 4 slots for just 1k and on top so many other items.
If you are going for one specific item and it's not in this fund and you are not sure you'll be able to earn enough tankoins for next opportunity, then you probably want to skip this fund. However, after removing augments from challenges, they aren't that good anymore (unless you want the skin) and funds are even better choice.

Yea... my vision is long term.

Also, I can relate to disappointed players as I've participated in 4 funds on a f2p alt account and didn't win yet, so that's 4k tk loss so far.

On 6/16/2023 at 10:04 PM, Akame said:

All in all, still a tankifund I would recommend to all players, expect for those who are fully f2p/limited and are waiting for a specific paint/augment/skin from a future bp.

People will always complain no matter what, it's pretty common now, all they want is token of apologies and like unlimited augments and skins for less than 1K tk. Like as if the value of the prizes isn't far superior to most other events which are heavily paywalled (cough space type event).

If we look at it objectively, this fund shouldn't be hard to complete; only need a maximum of 46'000 accounts to spend a minimum of 990 tk. Naturally many have alts to purchase these funds too, we've all seen the northstar/mapc accounts etc. This should theoretically be more than possible to do. Along with some players buying the 2nd bundle and potentially a 3rd bundle to reduce the maximum needed. But it will probably be missed due to the pessimistic and ungrateful approach towards the prizes.

The alt account situation is interesting. I'm very positive the fund is actually boosted by REAL players with only 2-3 alt accounts, since there's thousands of them and they just get multiplied easily to thousands. The few players with ~100 accounts are eye-catching, but in reality, they are a drop in the ocean.
I'm very curious what will happen in 2 more funds, as that's when the tokens of apology run dry (unless we get more) and only alt accounts who have won the funds will be able to purchase more funds. The number of alt accounts should be decreased to about 50%, and those will be able to continue basically forever. This is why the big token of apology has such a long lasting consequences. Or maybe these alt accounts will get baited to buy the 3k bundle? It's not terrible, but that one is an average tankoin loss.

[yuvraj007 302]

On 6/16/2023 at 3:42 PM, galziv01 said:

2. A driver augment for hunter. It might be very OP for that hull. Too bad it is not maxed out on my account, but it is still an awesome thing to have in battles

You know that driver was once a crystal drone? They removed it for the "sake of simplifying the game".

Now they are selling it in events, tanki funds.

[Fenrir 335]

On 6/17/2023 at 2:54 PM, yuvraj007 said:

You know that driver was once a crystal drone? They removed it for the "sake of simplifying the game".

Now they are selling it in events, tanki funds.

To be fair, using it as a drone meant you couldn't use any of the (significantly more powerful) alternatives. The opportunity cost was far too high to justify what you'd get out of it. Now you can combine the two at the price of your chosen immunity. I am not saying it's a stellar business practice, but the drone and the augment are not 1:1. The drone was pretty much useless, the augment is not.

[soviet.reunion 76]

apart from needing more tankoins to get fewer rewards (compared to past funds)... and steps that give you practically nothing (2nd module slot costs 50 tankoins so 3 slots is useless for anyone) ... I don't like how the rewards don't seem to get better the higher the fund reaches. It used to be exciting to get better rewards the higher the fund went but now I couldn't care less if the fund went up a few million for me to get 3 containers and some paints that look just the same as those garage paints that cost 10 crystals. 

[Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL 162]

On 6/15/2023 at 10:40 PM, TargetXAcquired said:

Which have been nerfed so much they are now crap.

 

Spending anything on this fund is not worth it, it's crap. You are showing signs of delusional tanki syndrome, not good for your health.

I agree, containers got nerfed a long time ago, but I don't care anymore. I'll soon leave this game forever, so I'll get those containers, open them, upgrade equipment and probably reach Legend or Generalissimus (it depends if I'll get very mad or not) and quit game forever. When exactly? When I'll see how Contract system works.

[Romantically 282]

On 6/17/2023 at 10:07 PM, soviet.reunion said:

apart from needing more tankoins to get fewer rewards (compared to past funds)... and steps that give you practically nothing (2nd module slot costs 50 tankoins so 3 slots is useless for anyone)

4th costs 5k

Not everyone has been playing for 2+ years to have atleast 3 slots