Rubys...

[chriswu 25]

When open testing begins!!!

[r_gamepiong0 10]

Since most players with M3 equipment for Tier 2 weapons/tanks were buyers in 1.0' date=' I don't see how this will keep down the number of M3's in 2.0....except for the fact of ruining the game for non-buyers, since we will be excluded for M3 Smokey/Firebird/Rail/Isida/etc.[/quote']

 

Yeah, I have one thing to say about this, partially for and against this whole Ruby talk. I've been playing quite some time now and this above quote totally agrees with that I have to say. All of us who can't get crystals or try to but can't will never be able to match up with the pro's if we have a weapon/tank a whole level lower. Eventually they'll give up on the game and the population of tanki while quickly decrease. I'm not saying this is a big issue but I've got a few m3 weapons they are pretty neat but I can never imagine not having m3 and only m2 it'll take ages to rank up. Unless yeah... I can't really say much because people could be wrong about it or some say its a myth.

 

A plus for you guys are you get more money flowing through the game but eventually it'll be a buyers world.

 

But please just make it somewhat fair so we can get enough rubies just to buy something good to keep us satisfied or... like I said people won't be interested in the game after a while when they see its completely useless with this 2nd currency. Again not trying to say anything bad about tanki but just try your best to make it fair its a great game and I hope to see some great additions in the future.

 

One quick idea is a type of pass that when you get it you can join/create games with a small % of rubies falling like just as rare as 50 crystal boxes, but compared to crystals falling and that way we can earn rubies but its just a little tougher to get and a lot less than regular crystals. Good Luck devs with 2.0 can't wait to see the release!

gamepiong~

[GO_IRELAND 0]

well said gamepiong, but want to add a few points myself

 

assuming the only way to get rubies is buying, or achievements, i think this will make this the game fairer, let me explain, atm assuming you dont pay, the only way to get stuff is through winning battle fund and crystal boxes. now crystal boxes arent the way to earn tier 2 m3 weapon/bodys, but the battle fund often goes to payers. by making it achievements it means you can still survive, because you will still get rubies even if you on losing team/at the bottom of the winning team, and therefore get the m3 stuff

 

another point i have about not being able to get m3 stuff, actually the only reason you guys want m3 is so as to have the same as the best people/payers, if they only had m1 you would be happy with that. so if in 2.0 over 90% of us cant have m3 stuff, you will still be able to play against the same people and levels, because the highest m's are m2

[NoblePlatOne 19]

another point i have about not being able to get m3 stuff, actually the only reason you guys want m3 is so as to have the same as the best people/payers, if they only had m1 you would be happy with that. so if in 2.0 over 90% of us cant have m3 stuff, you will still be able to play against the same people and levels, because the highest m's are m2

Think about this for a moment. Even if you are correct that 90% don't buy (which I disagree with, given that each game I play easily has 4 or more players with 12000 crystal paints, M3 Rico or freeze, AND M3 Viking or Mammoth), those buyers usually play jointly. So you are playing with your M2 tank and M2 weapon...in comes this group of several max'ed out tanks. Your team has no chance. It is bad enough now against those groups; it will only get worse under this system.

[ShadowKnightX 18]

Nothing new under the Sun - just another game joins the Pay-2-Win bandwagon.

The problem is not the new currency of rubies available only for real money and that M3 modification will be paid. That is OK - the game needs real money to evolve.

The problem is the unprecedented GREED of the game developers.

Concurrently I play a game where I paid 20$ for the equivalent of 4(four) M3 top weapons, costing 5$ each. In comparison, I should have spent ~ 400$ for a M3 armor + three M3 guns to get these weapons at Tanki. So I agreed to spend there 20$, but would never ever spend 400$ for your game. And I prefer to play 20 different games, spending 20$ for each of it, instead paying 400$ for just one game.

In addition, if there is no reasonable exchange rate of crystals to rubies, this will be the beginning of the end of this game.

Believe it or not, but your GREED will ruin this nice game.

:?

Everything will be balanced, I hope. Besides, It will be possible to get Rubys without money :) Rubys for achievments. For example if you killed 5000 with thunder you get 10 rubys.

Good to hear this and I hope I don't need 100 or more Rubys for an M3 upgrade.

 

they also said that rubies might = 1000 or 100 crystals

[cablaz 32]

So How much rubies will be needed to Upgrade...lets say the most expensive thing to M3, Mammoth M3 in 2.0? About How much will that cost?

[ShadowKnightX 18]

So How much rubies will be needed to Upgrade...lets say the most expensive thing to M3' date=' Mammoth M3 in 2.0? About How much will that cost?[/quote']

 

i do not think ppl know yet cab

[king_beast88 19]

i imagine anywhere from 1.5 to 3 times the regular cost of crystals would be a fair guess. although that would also mean that it would take some degree less than the amount it would in crystals to m-3 a weapon.

although i think the important question is these achievements are the realistic? lemme explain if you're achievement is say capture a flag, kill a player, or kill a flagger x amount of times a large ammount i assume as well, how can we kill m-3 users with m-2 equipment (without implementing kill stealing) answer its not likey to happen at all if even much.

[Ultradc 9]

You need to be able to get rubies from more than achievements unless you have enough achievements to get everything to M3. If you are required to buy to get some things to M3, it will ruin the game for most to all people and they will not play anymore. This will give buyers an enormity because they will all have their Tanks and Weapons at M3. I think that this should be thought over again. Thank you.

[cablaz 32]

You need to be able to get rubies from more than achievements unless you have enough achievements to get everything to M3. If you are required to buy to get some things to M3' date=' it will ruin the game for most to all people and they will not play anymore. This will give buyers an enormity because they will all have their Tanks and Weapons at M3. I think that this should be thought over again. Thank you.[/quote']

+1

AGREED

 

If Rubies are as easy to get as crystals then i wont mind, but if its rare....

[ShadowKnightX 18]

hope deres a "ruby box" like the gold box but every 1000 fund since rubies r rare or sometin like dat

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Guys, It's not like the Administration is trying to destroy their own game. I'm pretty sure Rubies will be available by other means also.

[chriswu 25]

How are you arriving at that conclusion kool? Are you assuming because that would make sense, or are do you know that for a fact? The administration obviously wouldn't do anything to let their game lose a star on a rating, but is a second currency for better or for worse?

[cablaz 32]

I wouldn't mind a 2nd currency if there as easy to get as the normal crystals

You can save for a M3 Equipment while saving for others at the same time,

But if this Ruby currency will be hard to get then most of us wouldn't have M3 Stuff as fast then.

Of course we all know the developers don't want to destroy there own game but how exactly will we be able to get this Ruby currency other than from achievements?

 

But all of this will be unveiled at the open beta ;)

Lets be patient for a few more days till open beta, Rumored to be open on May 12th

[chriswu 25]

Known to be open May 12th. :-)

[SalvadorSTM 20]

Oh COME ON! This is horrible! :cry:

[Krutilator2 0]

Guys, nobody knows except developers of game what will be. Wait until open beta test and release in june 4 after that we all will make conclusions ;).

[r_ELain_3S0 17]

Other means... it will take a loooot of time then. Most of Pay 2 Enjoy games works like that, easy currency for weak things and hard currency for strong things.

 

If rubys would be as easy to get as crystlaz, Tanki wouldnt get more money than now.

[eessydo 17]

Honestly, if this is the case I am going to be pissed that I dropped $80 on this game in 1.0.

 

Also I am going to be twice as pissed because they created an incentive, the Double Crystal Card, in 1.0 to get people to purchase prior to the change.

 

I think the double crystal card, if you are not able to exchange for or earn rubies at a large enough rate in 2.0, is a scumbag move to drive more revenue to the game and double up on cash when 2.0 is released on people who are desperate to get back what they had before.

 

If rubies are 1000 crys = 1 ruby that is absolute BUNK. That would make the price of an M3 weapon based on the 3000 ruby quote in an earlier post 300000 crystals. Ridiculous.

 

If rubies are 100 crys = 1 ruby that is also BUNK. That would make the price of an M3 weapon based on the 3000 ruby quote 30000 crystals. Also ridiculous based on current pricing structures.

 

Ultimately what Tank will be saying to it's customers that have already paid money to support the game is, "Thanks for your contribution, but now we want more from you so SCREW YOU!"

[eessydo 17]

How about a 3000 ruby bonus if you have already donated to the game in 1.0?

[skitee 555]

On the ruby talk:

 

-Like kool says, it's unlikely the administration want to ruin their own game to make themselves a little bit richer. In the long-term, ruining their game will not make them richer but poorer.

 

-Secondly, who knows anything about rubies except that they will be used to buy m3 equipment? They might actually not be hard to get by normal playing. Yes, they will get a bit more of an advantage to buyers than at present, but, personally, I don't see anything wrong with that. If I was a maker of an online game like tanki, I would want to make as many incentives as possible for people to pay.

[ORANNIS 1]

The best games I have ever played made you buy extra currencies for real money, that just ruined them. :evil: If tanki started doing that, I would never play again, it would be the worst thing ever. :cry:

[Seemefly 4]

The best games I have ever played made you buy extra currencies for real money' date=' that just ruined them. :evil: If tanki started doing that, I would never play again, it would be the worst thing ever. :cry:[/quote']

 

I know...

[eessydo 17]

On the ruby talk:

 

-Like kool says, it's unlikely the administration want to ruin their own game to make themselves a little bit richer. In the long-term, ruining their game will not make them richer but poorer. They might actually not be hard to get by normal playing. Yes, they will get a bit more of an advantage to buyers than at present, but, personally, I don't see anything wrong with that. If I was a maker of an online game like tanki, I would want to make as many incentives as possible for people to pay.

 

We'll see how it goes, rarely does it go well when they change the rules.

[ShadowKnightX 18]

How about a 3000 ruby bonus if you have already donated to the game in 1.0?

 

1st of all this idea will not happen because im pretty sure u wont need TO much rubies but i do not know since i am just another random player

2nd of all 300?? more like 10-100 cause if rubies r used to buy m3 upgrades then i dont think dat'll happen