Let's discuss the Shaft gun!

[kingeoin14 30]

Here is the problem with shaft.

 

If you take two EQUAL teams in skill and weaponry at the end of the day it is nothing more than a supplemental gun with a high price tag.

 

If the other team has nothing but pre-existing tier 2 weaponry and rail guns instead of shaft and your team has shaft then here is the bottom-line:

 

1. Having 1 of them on your team is fine,

2. having 2 (unless M3 with the shorter reload), the scales can start tipping.

3. Having 3 Shaft on your team, and the scales start to seriously tip in the direction of the other team.

 

All of this is primarily due to shafts in ability to move in the firing screen.

 

I think that is why the gun has so many detractors at this point. For a weapon that is supposed to be the next generation, you would think that having more of them in game would tip the scales of gameplay towards the team with the most Shaft units, not with the least.

 

Also from a business perspective, you would think that you would like to encourage more players to buy the gun and purchase crystals to upgrade it quickly. Right now, anyone thinking of going down that path getting it at M0 and M1 makes them regret their purchase.

 

It makes no sense both from a gaming and business perspective.

 

I can recommend any weapon from isidia through rico, but this one I am struggling to recommend to anyone. That limits the potential for revenue for tanki overall.

 

So telling the community that they don't care because they are the designers just makes me laugh.

 

From a business perspective, they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.

 

So my proposal to tanki would be this either:

 

1. Lower the price tag to make it more palatable (would recommend making it cheaper than Thunder at M3) OR

2. Give it the ability to move while in targeting mode (justifying the higher price tag)

 

That is all that needs to happen.

I don't think there is enough Shafts out there to tip the course of battle...

[r_Mortii0 0]

This gun is perfect, but when you take damage, do not know who or where either the attack. I personally prefer the Thunder or Railgun

[r_Mortii0 0]

this gun is perfect, but when you take damage, do not know who or where either the attack. I personally prefer the thunder or railgun

 

i say +1

[Tommy60 406]

I stayed with an M3 shaft for about 3 minutes during a game at Highland. Through a crack in the wall, he shot with a high power level (I could tell by the noise) at another wall with an m3 wasp behind it. The wasp lived, completely unharmed. I don't think that shaft can shoot through walls.

[Ultradc 9]

I chose to remove this: Ultradc

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Ultra you just gave out the secret!!! -.-" Remove it xD

[Nk100_Original 13]

You can shoot through a wall with a light Shaft shot if the opponent's gun is sticking out of the wall. I have destroyed railguns and other shafts this way.

+1

[Tommy60 406]

Ultra you just gave out the secret!!! -.-" Remove it xD

 

 

Oh. >_< OK then...

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

So, as I promised or at least said that I'll take screenshots of my games for a couple of days. Here I am with my screenshots of the last 3 days. Hope you guys have fun and I'll start with this:

 

 

Then When I gave up XD

 

 

Yay! A Tie!

 

 

999 Flag game, As soon as I remembered to take a screenshot.

When I left

 

 

Completely changed the tides of this one

 

 

Super-Early screenshot

One at the end

 

 

Another one, Start

Quick game xD

 

 

Another game, with eessydo ^_^

 

 

Joined a game to see a flag in front of me. ^_^

 

 

And the last one

Results

 

 

 

Well people, those are all the games that I played with Shaft and stayed till the end. I might have missed a couple but I don't remember correctly. Now, as a bonus a duel with my friend Krakoviensis

M3 Railgun M3 Dictator vs M3 Viking M2 Shaft

[Krakoviensis 18]

As always respect Mate for honor game :!:

 

king regards

 

J.

[Kozayya 5]

Ultra you just gave out the secret!!! -.-" Remove it xD

 

My freeze won't never stick out of the wall..lmao :mrgreen:

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

My freeze won't never stick out of the wall..lmao :mrgreen:

wow... can't believe you don't know that it does! O_O

[r_R3APER0 16]

My freeze won't never stick out of the wall..lmao :mrgreen:

wow... can't believe you don't know that it does! O_O

 

lol dang it secrets out :P

[Kozayya 5]

I know that my freeze stick out of the wall.but i didn't know that shaft can shoot it through wall.Now i will never make to stick out of the wall when i am playing against with shaft lol :D (BTW i will buy shaft at least m 2 later )

[eessydo 17]

You can shoot through a wall with a light Shaft shot if the opponent's gun is sticking out of the wall. I have destroyed railguns and other shafts this way.

 

Well I never told him the secret, but now I know who not to let in on the next weapons secret capability.

[Ultradc 9]

I was trying to help. >_>

[r_R3APER0 16]

ihateyou. jk hahaha but really? its for us to know and others to find out through their own hardships, not for all noobs to know how to snipe us when we're hiding from that m3 rail! :P

[Delta_88 17]

Can you aim with a Shaft (as in look through a scope)?

[r_R3APER0 16]

HAHAHA thats the ONLY way to aim (which sucks, u can't drive and shoot)

[ForTheLulz 1]

no one would believe me if i tell, wasp and shaft are one of the best combinations :wink: i have knocked down almost every railgun and thunder shot just before they hit me :mrgreen: the scope is good but when its almost charged, the muzzle starts to swing sideways, making it hard to target.. The warming up period, and the smudge vision when ricochet or twins plasma hits, are the only annoying things i have faced so far :roll:

[swordfish12 12]

I own M3 shafts in Monte Carlo

I sneak up with my thunder get some drugs on and while their aiming over at my teams side I'm behind the emptying 40-70s on them and by the time they turn around to shoot me their dead I love using their shooting delay , it was harder with rails but these things take like 5 secs to get to the line and thunder can shoot nearly in 2 seconds meaning I can empty loads of shots before they even fire :D

[r_bader9990 0]

http://s002.radikal.ru/i199/1105/5e/6de48af37bb8.jpg

[r_ELain_3S0 17]

http://s002.radikal.ru/i199/1105/5e/6de48af37bb8.jpg

 

Are they Back? :shock:

[r_Yingy0 0]

I think you're talking about Smokey, no Thunder even M3 can fire a shot every 2 secs. That'd mean it would be the most powerful wepon in the game if it could do that.

[Ragefang 2]

stop blaming on shaft..each weapon got its good and bad sides.. usualyl in most of games players keep asking to power something up while it gets overpowered all people get same wepaons and game gets boring..same and same...

 

this what i like this game for. all weapons are balanced.yes shaft is hard to shoot with but it 1hit even mammoth!!that sight is a fair price for immeasurable force shaft got.

 

however i've sawn some players saying shaft is great.. its all about you know how to control it or not..it requires good skills. ones that have them says its good.. others dont...happens