The Hit List... + a plea to Developers

[MonkeyMagic 89]

Maybe we could have a limit on drugs per battle. So you could only use them according to... idk score? rank? Ratio?

 

Interesting suggestion... maybe we could think of a way to bring revenue to Tanki some other way so that it would replace the money that people spend on drugs???

 

just a thought, inspired by jordanrusson's post, and then they may be more likely to change how the game is played a bit...

 

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

[kingeoin14 30]

Tanki is a free to play game. It is not necsesaray to buy crystals in order to get good stuff.

[skitee 555]

Tanki is a free to play game. It is not necsesaray to buy crystals in order to get good stuff.

 

But it is necessary for people to buy crystals for it to exist.

[Flagstealer 2]

Tanki is a free to play game. It is not necsesaray to buy crystals in order to get good stuff.

 

But it is necessary so Tanki is still free to play.

[Tommy60 406]

Maybe we could have a limit on drugs per battle. So you could only use them according to... idk score? rank? Ratio?

 

Interesting suggestion... maybe we could think of a way to bring revenue to Tanki some other way so that it would replace the money that people spend on drugs???

 

just a thought, inspired by jordanrusson's post, and then they may be more likely to change how the game is played a bit...

 

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

+1 This is why I contribute a little bit. (Like, 1000 crystals total.)

[jordanrusson 3]

True. I believe it is what keeps tanki going. But that doesnt mean that us players that dont buy very much have to be terribly obliterated by others. Maybe a limit, like i suggested b4?

[cablaz 32]

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

- Aka You

 

Tanki would probably still be free if people don't buy, most non free games come with Disks, Downloads, and other stuff.... But... There would probably be ALOT of advertisements on pages, forums, ingame which i believe would get on everybody's nerves.

 

You dont like buyers? Then you must want advertisements.

[russia102010 14]

Whats wrong with battles when there can be no drugging and ones you can?

[Snyper22 15]

Maybe we could have a limit on drugs per battle. So you could only use them according to... idk score? rank? Ratio?

 

Interesting suggestion... maybe we could think of a way to bring revenue to Tanki some other way so that it would replace the money that people spend on drugs???

 

just a thought, inspired by jordanrusson's post, and then they may be more likely to change how the game is played a bit...

 

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

No crap man, why are you always so harsh, did someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?? geez........

[Snyper22 15]

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

- Aka You

 

Tanki would probably still be free if people don't buy, most non free games come with Disks, Downloads, and other stuff.... But... There would probably be ALOT of advertisements on pages, forums, ingame which i believe would get on everybody's nerves.

 

You dont like buyers? Then you must want advertisements.

 

I'll take the advers.... anyday...

[kingeoin14 30]

I don't mind one buyer. But when they form a group, it's time to leave the battle.

[Snyper22 15]

Maybe we could have a limit on drugs per battle. So you could only use them according to... idk score? rank? Ratio?

 

Interesting suggestion... maybe we could think of a way to bring revenue to Tanki some other way so that it would replace the money that people spend on drugs???

 

just a thought, inspired by jordanrusson's post, and then they may be more likely to change how the game is played a bit...

 

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

Ok so fine, that is how it is NOW, what about a different way to generate revenue so that the game can be played more fairly for the players that don't pay at the moment???

just because a player cannot or does not pay right now does not mean that he/she will not pay in the future, but the total unfair game play is a real turn off to want to pay money here, that is why I haven't payed anymore.... until some of these issues can be straightened out....

[Lieutenant_Me 65]

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

So? If you so like Tanki, pay for games with drugs. Then buy drugs for 10.000 and more if you like and start spend.

 

Nvm, every map already have billboards and some maps have graffiti on the walls. Why they not sell that as advertising space? Most popular maps have most costly advertising.

[cablaz 32]

*imagine*

 

Billboard: Gieco Saves 15% on Car Insurance!

 

Everywhere, err no thanks.

[jordanrusson 3]

XD cablaz

 

Maybe we can get the devs to change something in tanki 2. But we could ask them to change little things at a time. They wont want 2 do it alll at once. :wink:

[c16sh1 20]

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

So? If you so like Tanki, pay for games with drugs. Then buy drugs for 10.000 and more if you like and start spend.

 

Nvm, every map already have billboards and some maps have graffiti on the walls. Why they not sell that as advertising space? Most popular maps have most costly advertising.

Wow thats an amazing idea Lieutenant. Snyper22, you accuse Monkeymagic of being harsh, meanwhile you're writing is belligerent. I like the core of your argument, and i agree. But i also relize that you have to be realistic, and I think thats what Monkeymagic is doing. The truth is harsh, not him. Druggers make the game a little bit worse, but tanki is a free game so of course there are going to be major flaws. But this flaw can be fixed by buying crystals, if you buy drugs and crystals, this won't be as much of a problem. But if you don't want to do that, then you have to deal with the consequences of feeding off a game that other people keep running by buying crystals.

[Snyper22 15]

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

So? If you so like Tanki, pay for games with drugs. Then buy drugs for 10.000 and more if you like and start spend.

 

Nvm, every map already have billboards and some maps have graffiti on the walls. Why they not sell that as advertising space? Most popular maps have most costly advertising.

Wow thats an amazing idea Lieutenant. Snyper22, you accuse Monkeymagic of being harsh, meanwhile you're writing is belligerent. I like the core of your argument, and i agree. But i also relize that you have to be realistic, and I think thats what Monkeymagic is doing. The truth is harsh, not him. Druggers make the game a little bit worse, but tanki is a free game so of course there are going to be major flaws. But this flaw can be fixed by buying crystals, if you buy drugs and crystals, this won't be as much of a problem. But if you don't want to do that, then you have to deal with the consequences of feeding off a game that other people keep running by buying crystals.

 

Yes, most obviously that is how it is, I am trying to achieve change here, probably futile YES, none the less, I am trying...

 

"Feeding" off of a game?? what is that statement? it doesn't make a ton of sense, I think I know what you are trying to say, but not very eloquent there...

 

And my writing being belligerent, that's YOUR opinion, your entitled to it, but that's about it...

 

I am only belligerent to those that seek belligerence, knowingly or unwittingly..... :wink:

[skitee 555]

If I remember rightly, for a while we did have adverts in Tanki on the billboards, but they were removed. I don't know why, but it was probably because someone complained: I didn't see any problem with them, however.

[MonkeyMagic 89]

contrary to what most people believe, most druggers dont drug to win a game against non druggers. Most drug because it makes the game faster and more fun to play. I would much rather play in a game where everyone drugs. playing against a team that does not drug simply isnt fun and is boring. also heavy druggers (most) dont really care about the crystal fund, its a small drop in the ocean in comparison to the amounts spent.

 

as i eluded to in a previous post - to have a 2 tier game. servers for drug games and servers for no supply.

i believe it has been discussed before but the only way i can think to resolve this issue is to have a subscription. a weekly or monthly subscription, one subscription for no supply battles and another at a higher cost for drug battles (drugs would be infinite after subscribing). This would allow players to choose the type of battle that fits them, and their pocket.

 

servers could be split accordingly and everyone is happy!

 

if people want changes they cant expect to play for free. a 10$ a month charge for no supply should be within everyones reach, even kids with pocket money!

[kingeoin14 30]

contrary to what most people believe, most druggers dont drug to win a game against non druggers. Most drug because it makes the game faster and more fun to play. I would much rather play in a game where everyone drugs. playing against a team that does not drug simply isnt fun and is boring. also heavy druggers (most) dont really care about the crystal fund, its a small drop in the ocean in comparison to the amounts spent.

 

as i eluded to in a previous post - to have a 2 tier game. servers for drug games and servers for no supply.

i believe it has been discussed before but the only way i can think to resolve this issue is to have a subscription. a weekly or monthly subscription, one subscription for no supply battles and another at a higher cost for drug battles (drugs would be infinite after subscribing). This would allow players to choose the type of battle that fits them, and their pocket.

 

servers could be split accordingly and everyone is happy!

 

if people want changes they cant expect to play for free. a 10$ a month charge for no supply should be within everyones reach, even kids with pocket money!

 

A place where everyone drugs... Isn't that the Test Server?

[panzer-runner 2]

Boy, I check out for a few days, and when I return I see the little insult monkeys are back :evil:

 

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

Is that a fact or your personal opinion? Since none of us have seen their operating budget or finances, I say it's just your opinion with no more authority than anyone else posting here. Back this statement up with real numbers and then act so authoritative.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

No one said the devs would want to limit the income of the game, that is what is called a "straw man argument" and I will obliterate it easily.

 

First show me where in the last 15 or so pages here someone said the game shouldn't make money or the devs should limit the income. No? Can't find any examples? Then you are just making up your own argument that makes no sense and you then win your own argument. Bravo! Now explain how those that DO NOT buy drugs right now, and still PLAY will hurt the income stream if we are allowed to play NO SUPPLY games for free. You can't, which is why you pathetically try that old straw man argument.

 

I will spell it out for you MonkeyMagic, ok?

Right now some buy drugs and some do not. Right now it costs those of us that want to play, but sometimes only with others who don't drug. We do not buy the 500 / month pass because there are few to no games, and it seems unfair since druggers do not have to "pay to play"

 

If they make that pass free, those that buy drugs would STILL buy drugs, because they LIKE that way of playing. NO NET GAIN OR LOSS.

If they make the pass free, players that DO NOT BUY DRUGS would still NOT BUY DRUGS, but would simply play with others like ourselves when we get sick of druggers. Result = NO NET GAIN OR LOSS. understand? :roll:

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

How the h*ll do you know if those that don't want to play with drugggers also don't spend $$$? Are you pathetically trying to say that people that don't buy drugs also don't buy upgrades? Your simpleton logic is beyond flawed. I guess its just some MonkeyMagic that LOOKS like logic, eh?

 

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

Because kids of 12/13 CAN be fooled by your 12 or 13 year old's flawed logic. Should I be impressed that you can convince 12 year olds? Bravo! Now try convincing adults like myself of your ranting. let me reiterate: NO ONE HAS ADVOCATED THE GAME MAKING NO MONEY!!! If you read up a few lines you can re-read my answer to your straw man argument.

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

You are a on a fail roll today, eh? It IS free to play and hopefully always will be. It is subsidized by those that decide to BUY rather than take their time and EARN. Most people are impatient and if they have the $$ to spend, they can play and quickly gain whatever they want buy supporting the game, those that can't PAY or do not want to, have to EARN their way towards rewards.

 

That, my friend, is the model used in Tanki Online, and your proclaiming otherwise does not make it true.

[panzer-runner 2]

Maybe we could have a limit on drugs per battle. So you could only use them according to... idk score? rank? Ratio?

 

Interesting suggestion... maybe we could think of a way to bring revenue to Tanki some other way so that it would replace the money that people spend on drugs???

 

just a thought, inspired by jordanrusson's post, and then they may be more likely to change how the game is played a bit...

 

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

No crap man, why are you always so harsh, did someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?? geez........

 

Heheee :mrgreen: I actually bust out laughing :XD: because that is what I was thinking.

 

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

So? If you so like Tanki, pay for games with drugs. Then buy drugs for 10.000 and more if you like and start spend.

 

Nvm, every map already have billboards and some maps have graffiti on the walls. Why they not sell that as advertising space? Most popular maps have most costly advertising.

 

This is a great idea and I think it has been brought up before. I assumed that is what they were up to with the billboard art. I also assumed it would roll out in Tanki 2.0, but its just my guess. I think ads in game, which is accepted already in many other online games is a good way of generating income. It does not have to replace the buy vs earn model, just supplement it for added income and better servers and bandwidth.

 

contrary to what most people believe' date=' most druggers dont drug to win a game against non druggers.[/quote']

So says MonkeyMagic...written on tablets from on high! Please, how can you say that with a straight face? I can speak from my own experiences and safely say mass drugging to steal pots in CTF games is rampant. Games will be milked along to run up the fund, and then when its big enough, 1234 1234 1234 winner takes all, and the winner is whoever has the most drugs. Also many times a few will look for long games and join INTENDING to try and 1234 their way to the steal. It is not illegal, just common and un-ethical and we have no recourse right now.

Most drug because it makes the game faster and more fun to play. I would much rather play in a game where everyone drugs. playing against a team that does not drug simply isnt fun and is boring. also heavy druggers (most) dont really care about the crystal fund' date=' its a small drop in the ocean in comparison to the amounts spent.[/quote']

 

Who elected you to speak for all druggers??? Give me a break with this Magic :roll: If you like playing with other druggers to have quick games, good for you. It still does not address the fact that many others don't share your opinion. Some of us LIKE long games of skill and earning our rewards. That is why having seperate servers or games for non-druggers is a good idea. You and your drugger friends can blindly press 1234 for the 20 minutes you enjoy and leave the rest of us alone to play without your kind. Ok? Good. Glad that is settled. :D

 

as i eluded to in a previous post - to have a 2 tier game. servers for drug games and servers for no supply.

i believe it has been discussed before but the only way i can think to resolve this issue is to have a subscription. a weekly or monthly subscription, one subscription for no supply battles and another at a higher cost for drug battles (drugs would be infinite after subscribing). This would allow players to choose the type of battle that fits them, and their pocket.

 

servers could be split accordingly and everyone is happy!

 

if people want changes they cant expect to play for free. a 10$ a month charge for no supply should be within everyones reach, even kids with pocket money!

 

None of this nonsense has to happen. If the model Tankki uses to make $ is working now, nothing changes by offering the no-supplies pass for free. Unless of course Tanki is losing $$ and always have. I don't buy drugs, never have and never will. Those that enjoy drugging always will and will buy for that privilege. No one is charged to PLAY, only to BUY. With one exeption: To PLAY a no supplies game, we must PAY! That is unfair.

[violins 0]

I'll admit it. I don't like druggers but I'm a drugger myself, but that doesn't mean I go and take out some petty vendetta on the internet against people who don't play like you. Drugs are part of the game or else they wouldn't be there, so why do you insist on prolonging a losing battle? This is a pointless thread, none of the developers give a damn about you or your opinions. Drugs are here to stay.

 

If you don't like it, go elsewhere.

[MonkeyMagic 89]

people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2.

Is that a fact or your personal opinion? Since none of us have seen their operating budget or finances' date=' I say it's just your opinion with no more authority than anyone else posting here. Back this statement up with real numbers and then act so authoritative.[/quote']

 

the 1000$ is a figure based upon what i spend and the players i play with spend. some a little more some a little less.

 

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

 

No one said the devs would want to limit the income of the game' date=' that is what is called a "straw man argument" and I will obliterate it easily. [/quote']

 

How cant you understand if people are allowed to play for free they will be less likely to spend any money?

 

First show me where in the last 15 or so pages here someone said the game shouldn't make money or the devs should limit the income. No? Can't find any examples? Then you are just making up your own argument that makes no sense and you then win your own argument. Bravo! Now explain how those that DO NOT buy drugs right now' date=' and still PLAY will hurt the income stream if we are allowed to play NO SUPPLY games for free. You can't, which is why you pathetically try that old straw man argument. [/quote']

 

I will spell it out for you MonkeyMagic, ok?

Right now some buy drugs and some do not. Right now it costs those of us that want to play, but sometimes only with others who don't drug. We do not buy the 500 / month pass because there are few to no games, and it seems unfair since druggers do not have to "pay to play"

 

If they make that pass free, those that buy drugs would STILL buy drugs, because they LIKE that way of playing. NO NET GAIN OR LOSS.

If they make the pass free, players that DO NOT BUY DRUGS would still NOT BUY DRUGS, but would simply play with others like ourselves when we get sick of druggers. Result = NO NET GAIN OR LOSS. understand? :roll:

 

sorry but lol @ this statement unfair 'since druggers do not have to "pay to play" seriously lol.

 

people that dont buy crystals freeload from those that do. not only do you want to freeload, you want to change the game so that the tiny amount of crystals it costs to play a no supply game is removed. ensuring a totally free game for the likes of you.

 

 

why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up?

 

How the h*ll do you know if those that don't want to play with drugggers also don't spend $$$? Are you pathetically trying to say that people that don't buy drugs also don't buy upgrades? Your simpleton logic is beyond flawed. I guess its just some MonkeyMagic that LOOKS like logic' date=' eh?[/quote']

 

i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand?

why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so?

 

Because kids of 12/13 CAN be fooled by your 12 or 13 year old's flawed logic. Should I be impressed that you can convince 12 year olds? Bravo! Now try convincing adults like myself of your ranting. let me reiterate: NO ONE HAS ADVOCATED THE GAME MAKING NO MONEY!!! If you read up a few lines you can re-read my answer to your straw man argument.

 

tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

 

like i said if anyone can freeload (like you) they will. more people that can freeload they will. you advocate a growth in free pass games so that there are more types of these games for you to play. making the game better for you at no cost. great buisness model. no encouragement at all for people to spend. you work for a bank by any chance? as for the ranting lol read up a little bit and see the insults and arrogance in your post, its beyond belief.

[panzer-runner 2]

I'll admit it. I don't like druggers but I'm a drugger myself, but that doesn't mean I go and take out some petty vendetta on the internet against people who don't play like you. Drugs are part of the game or else they wouldn't be there, so why do you insist on prolonging a losing battle? This is a pointless thread, none of the developers give a damn about you or your opinions. Drugs are here to stay.

 

If you don't like it, go elsewhere.

 

Well, I see we have another opinionated poster who can't even be bothered to read the thread stating how they feel. Well.. good for you! Now can you do us all a favor and explain where you think anyone here is advocating getting rid of drugs? or that they are NOT part of the game? Really... thanks for playing, you lose. It seems to me all the rational minds here are debating whether or not its fair that players who wish to play a game without druggers have to PAY and there are no games anyway for them.

 

I am tired of you wearing ladies panties! Oh, wait, you never said you did? Too bad, we are still all sick of you wearing ladies panties! <--- that is the equivalent of what you just posted here.

 

BTW - I am amazed you would openly admit you don't like yourself. Bwaaa ha ha ha

 

Something tells me the developers of Tanki would not really want the public to think that they don't "give a damn" about players! Now please go back under the bridge from whence ye came young Troll, you are now on "the list" :twisted: (the Hit List grows everyday :wink: )