The Hit List... + a plea to Developers

[MonkeyMagic 89]

contrary to what most people believe' date=' most druggers dont drug to win a game against non druggers.[/quote']

 

So says MonkeyMagic...written on tablets from on high! Please' date=' how can you say that with a straight face? I can speak from my own experiences and safely say mass drugging to steal pots in CTF games is rampant. Games will be milked along to run up the fund, and then when its big enough, 1234 1234 1234 winner takes all, and the winner is whoever has the most drugs. Also many times a few will look for long games and join INTENDING to try and 1234 their way to the steal. It is not illegal, just common and un-ethical and we have no recourse right now. [/quote']

 

its often the case that a player in the game calls for help, leading to a clan joining the game to help. as you dont drug, you have no idea how many drugs it can take to win a battle over a number of hours. no where near the pot of crystals one can win at the end. also may of the crystalsin these games are won by a low ranking isida thats been there from the start.

 

Most drug because it makes the game faster and more fun to play. I would much rather play in a game where everyone drugs. playing against a team that does not drug simply isnt fun and is boring. also heavy druggers (most) dont really care about the crystal fund' date=' its a small drop in the ocean in comparison to the amounts spent.[/quote']

 

Who elected you to speak for all druggers??? Give me a break with this Magic :roll: If you like playing with other druggers to have quick games' date=' good for you. It still does not address the fact that many others don't share your opinion. Some of us LIKE long games of skill and earning our rewards. That is why having seperate servers or games for non-druggers is a good idea. You and your drugger friends can blindly press 1234 for the 20 minutes you enjoy and leave the rest of us alone to play without your kind. Ok? Good. Glad that is settled. :D [/quote']

 

another blind comment. you obviously know nothing about drugging and dismiss that there is any skill involved. I play long games, many of the 'druggers' i play with play long games. as the game is set up like it is then its just tough for you that people like me come in the games and 'steal your hard earned crystals. shame. again you want to freeload and want a nice safe place to do so. as i pay to play i should have the right to come and take your hard earned crsytals as a matter of due course

as i eluded to in a previous post - to have a 2 tier game. servers for drug games and servers for no supply.

i believe it has been discussed before but the only way i can think to resolve this issue is to have a subscription. a weekly or monthly subscription, one subscription for no supply battles and another at a higher cost for drug battles (drugs would be infinite after subscribing). This would allow players to choose the type of battle that fits them, and their pocket.

 

servers could be split accordingly and everyone is happy!

 

if people want changes they cant expect to play for free. a 10$ a month charge for no supply should be within everyones reach, even kids with pocket money!

 

None of this nonsense has to happen. If the model Tankki uses to make $ is working now' date=' nothing changes by offering the no-supplies pass for free. Unless of course Tanki is losing $$ and always have. I don't buy drugs, never have and never will. Those that enjoy drugging always will and will buy for that privilege. No one is charged to PLAY, only to BUY. With one exeption: To PLAY a no supplies game, we must PAY! That is unfair.[/quote']

 

so again what you are saying is the model works just fine for tanki, it works just fine for those willing to support the game with $$$, but its not fair for the freeloaders, like you and you want to make the game better for you freeloaders so that you can play in peace (for free), with no intention of ever paying (your words). Good luck with that one.

 

as a foot note i cant help noticing that this issue really does seem to bother you. why is this? i can understand it must be really annoying when you play a game for a few hours and some druggers come in and wipe you out in a matter of minuites leaving you with 0 crystals for all your hard earned effort. but it seems to go deeper than that, surly playing a game cant make you this annoyed? perhaps you really would love to play with drugs but are unable to do so? perhaps playing the welfare version of the game gets on your nerves just a little bit?

[russia102010 14]

I like panzer's idea! Druggers still drug and non-druggers just play peacefully! I just don't understand whats wrong? Like the druggers keep paying for drugs (maybe more then they used to) and tanki still gets money!

[panzer-runner 2]

the 1000$ is a figure based upon what i spend and the players i play with spend. some a little more some a little less.

Either you have no idea what a dollar is, or you think we are 12 year old kids from the Moon. This is utter bullsh*t and you know it. There is no way you spend $1000 / month real money on this little online game. Your Mommy will be really mad when she gets the bill. :lol: If you really do spend $1000 / month, you seriously need to seek professional help and get a life. In just one month, the average American family of four will spend almost $500. Your saying you spend 8x as much on this game every month as we spend on food? Wow, hope that gives you a warm feeling inside, dude.

 

How cant you understand if people are allowed to play for free they will be less likely to spend any money?

You are just showing us all how small your mind is. People already play for free, and they are "allowed" to, genius. Spending money on Tanki Online is COMPLETELY optional. READ what I posted before you say things that make yourself look ridiculous. Those that want to get upgrades faster or want drugs BUY them. Those that just want to play, can do so for free, but it will take much longer to gain rewards and upgrades etc. Have you even f'ing PLAYED this game before?

 

 

people that dont buy crystals freeload from those that do. not only do you want to freeload, you want to change the game so that the tiny amount of crystals it costs to play a no supply game is removed. ensuring a totally free game for the likes of you.[/b]

 

Yes, those that "don't pay" freeload off "those that do pay" - That is the model the developers came up with and it seems to work. If you don't like it, start your own thread, call the developers, pray to your God, or whine to whoever is giving you $1000 / month to play little online games, I don't care because THIS IS HOW IT IS SET UP! I am not adverse really to spending 500 / month on a pass (I earn more than that in a week, so it's still FREE to me genius :P ) however, I suggest it be free after seeing that there are almost NO GAMES available as no-supplies. This is because NO ONE BOTHERS TO BUY A PASS until there are games for it to be useful!

 

As for your tone, I have to laugh my a*s off reading your drivel. I ALREADY am ensured a free game because my skill has EARNED me everything I need thanks to YOUR $1000 / month you spend on drugs! So.... Thanks Monkeyman ! Thanks for ensuring me a free game :P

 

You CHOOSE to buy drugs, but the game costs you nothing to play, right?

I CHOOSE NOT to buy drugs, but to play a no-supplies battle costs me to play.

 

That is not equal, ok? get it?

 

 

as for the ranting lol read up a little bit and see the insults and arrogance in your post' date=' its beyond belief.[/b']

 

Yup, thats what happens when you jump in and insult people! It comes right back in your face. UNDERSTAND? <-- remember derogatorily saying this? Remember insulting us by saying even 12 year olds can get it etc etc??? You have some nerve jumping on a thread, being arrogant and insulting and then complain when it is done right back to you.

 

I can be very insulting, but I never go after someone unless they are insulting first. I am actually very nice to people that are nice people. Someone has to be around to bully the bullies or they would push everyone around. :thumbup:

[russia102010 14]

How can I support you panzer?

[panzer-runner 2]

Oh my freaking God, how dense can you be?!?!

 

contrary to what most people believe' date=' most druggers dont drug to win a game against non druggers.[/quote']

 

So says MonkeyMagic...written on tablets from on high! Please' date=' how can you say that with a straight face? I can speak from my own experiences and safely say mass drugging to steal pots in CTF games is rampant. Games will be milked along to run up the fund, and then when its big enough, 1234 1234 1234 winner takes all, and the winner is whoever has the most drugs. Also many times a few will look for long games and join INTENDING to try and 1234 their way to the steal. It is not illegal, just common and un-ethical and we have no recourse right now. [/quote']

 

its often the case that a player in the game calls for help, leading to a clan joining the game to help. as you dont drug, you have no idea how many drugs it can take to win a battle over a number of hours. no where near the pot of crystals one can win at the end. also may of the crystalsin these games are won by a low ranking isida thats been there from the start.

 

YOU said "most druggers don't drug to win a game against non-druggers" then come back to say its often the case that a player will call in his clan buddies!!! YEAH, TO WIN THE GAME! I have been in many games that last many hours and seen it all little man. Clans using their drug stash to win games is exactly what you said "most don't do" until you say its what they do... get your story straight. There is nothing against the rules to do this, but dont be full of sh*t and tell us all it doesn't happen that often. Some of us just want a way to protect ourselves from this very action. Take your drugger clans and play each other and enjoy it, leave us a place to play OUR games free of druggers. Your very next statement contradicts this statement (as usual). You state " you have no idea how many drugs it can take to win a battle over a number of hours. " and then again you have said "Most drug because it makes the game faster"

 

another blind comment. you obviously know nothing about drugging and dismiss that there is any skill involved. I play long games, many of the 'druggers' i play with play long games. as the game is set up like it is then its just tough for you that people like me come in the games and 'steal your hard earned crystals. shame. again you want to freeload and want a nice safe place to do so. as i pay to play i should have the right to come and take your hard earned crsytals as a matter of due course

 

Wow, I am soooo glad everyone can read your garbage. FIRST you say druggers don't come in and steal pots, they only want quicker games (which you then say they play for hours) NOW you admit and even GLOAT over the fact that you and your friends "ome in the games and 'steal your hard earned crystals"

 

OMG - wow, do you walk in a striaght line? Because you sure as h*ll talk in circles :shock:

 

as a foot note i cant help noticing that this issue really does seem to bother you. why is this? i can understand it must be really annoying when you play a game for a few hours and some druggers come in and wipe you out in a matter of minuites leaving you with 0 crystals for all your hard earned effort. but it seems to go deeper than that' date=' surly playing a game cant make you this annoyed? perhaps you really would love to play with drugs but are unable to do so? perhaps playing the welfare version of the game gets on your nerves just a little bit?[/b']

 

Ha! Really? Dude, I never said I don't drug. I have done plenty, which is why I can compare the style of play and easily see how unskilled douchbags with endless drugs can win against skilled players who CHOOSE not to waste their time with that.

 

Welfare version? Really? You are proud of having to PAY for your pleasures? I suppose you also pay for other pleasures in life, right? Like women? (or is it men?) No, I think I am very comfortable playing the same version of Tanki Online as everyone else. I just would like to find a way of playing in a way that used to be fun before people like you started to ruin it for people.

 

Have fun paying for pleasure MonkeyMagic (I hope us freeloaders don't make you feel silly spending for what we get free :twisted: )

[panzer-runner 2]

How can I support you panzer?

 

+1 We are growing in numbers I am glad to say :)

 

I really think we are starting to gain a voice against the Drugger Clans and individual players. Eventually, the income stream will drop. Why? Because a good number of players spent money on, or earned their way to an upgrade thinking it would be even more fun and exciting and then found the game getting trashed by those constant druggers. It makes people bitter and then they stop playing. If they stop playing, Future Ad revenues cannot be made on fleeing players, and they also won't be spending on upgrades etc. That would be worse for Tanki than encouraging players to stay and spend in a way that keeps them happy.

 

I wish I had a good solution.

If we could get a good list of players that support what we believe in, we could try and make sure there is always a few no-supplies games running. Eventually they may realize its in Tanki's interest to make the no-supplies pass free to encourage play. Otherwise its gonna be a handful of Marshals and players like MonkeyMagic left pressing 1234 all day ;) Of course by then he will be spending like $50,000 / month on the game - Hahahaha :lol:

[MadDog21 230]

The arrogance you display in game play also floods your remarks in this thread, MM. Also you contradict yourself so often that it clarifies your lack of a philosophy, an ethos in gaming, fair play and any proficiency at debating. You're getting your butt handed to you by Panzer. Really, on this one you ought to retire. You sound like a fool. Also if you actually spend $1k monthly, you've lost the concept of play pretty completely. More support for the fool. I don't believe you. if you were a wealthy fellow, it might wash, but wealthy folks haven't usually got the time to play games taking time from their accrual.

 

But, keep on. It's amusing reading.

 

MD21

[russia102010 14]

PH you have no right to just lazily take our hard earned crystals away! So that means we have a right to take yours?

[violins 0]

Well, obviously my comment was written in some sort of bias. It's a damn shame I'm only a 3rd Lt. It's pretty rare to see No-supplies battles, and when I do, they're usually for higher ranks. Why? Can't the lower ranks also play in No-supplies? :?

[G_AHMED 12]

pliz guys

for any one that wants to reply make his reply short

 

i didint get any thing so much letters :hunf:

[Lhamster 4,081]

The arrogance you display in game play also floods your remarks in this thread, MM. Also you contradict yourself so often that it clarifies your lack of a philosophy, an ethos in gaming, fair play and any proficiency at debating. You're getting your butt handed to you by Panzer. Really, on this one you ought to retire. You sound like a fool. Also if you actually spend $1k monthly, you've lost the concept of play pretty completely. More support for the fool. I don't believe you. if you were a wealthy fellow, it might wash, but wealthy folks haven't usually got the time to play games taking time from their accrual.

 

But, keep on. It's amusing reading.

 

MD21

 

+1, you make me smile everytime MD. xD

 

And Panzer, keep up the good work. :thumbup:

[cablaz 32]

You go panzer :P

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

I wish I had a good solution.

If we could get a good list of players that support what we believe in, we could try and make sure there is always a few no-supplies games running. Eventually they may realize its in Tanki's interest to make the no-supplies pass free to encourage play. Otherwise its gonna be a handful of Marshals and players like MonkeyMagic left pressing 1234 all day ;) Of course by then he will be spending like $50,000 / month on the game - Hahahaha :lol:

good. luck. as I mentioned before russian community tried it to... ahhh you guys do not seem to listen.

[r_R3APER0 16]

I wish I had a good solution.

If we could get a good list of players that support what we believe in, we could try and make sure there is always a few no-supplies games running. Eventually they may realize its in Tanki's interest to make the no-supplies pass free to encourage play. Otherwise its gonna be a handful of Marshals and players like MonkeyMagic left pressing 1234 all day ;) Of course by then he will be spending like $50,000 / month on the game - Hahahaha :lol:

good. luck. as I mentioned before russian community tried it to... ahhh you guys do not seem to listen.

 

Yup, funny how people still spend time on a futile effort. Arguing on this forum makes no difference, people have their own opinions. Most aren't changed by what is said, nor do they bother to read all the arguments that are happening. Perhaps spending more time on contacting the devs or actual people that can make a difference would be a better use of time. Or just continue wasting your lives arguing on a forum, about a game, against people across the world that don't matter at all. Your choice.

[kingeoin14 30]

^ No efforts are futile. People may have thought D-Day was futile, Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook were futile and more.

 

But they worked. And there is no reason this won't.

 

A/N anyone think I am a Hippocrate for suddenly supporting this issue?

[MonkeyMagic 89]

double post

[MonkeyMagic 89]

hahahaha where to start here. i guess first off a massive laugh at the old men jumping in the thread to support each other in this totally futile campaign to change the game. this thread of whimpering rants, is, after all brought about by frustration. yes some very frustrated old men here.

 

dress it up how you like the bottom line is you want to play in games where 'druggers' cant come and spoil 'your' games. apparently you dont have enough of these games because people will not spend 500 crystals a month to play these games. well, what does that tell you?

 

what has tickled me most of all in this thread has been the reaction of some like panzer boy and maddogneverwins at learning the amounts some people spend on the game. actually if you were to know how much some people i know spend on the game i could see a mass nervous breakdown of the over 50 community.

 

i loved the 'what an average family spends on food' line. in fact im still laughing now. lol. what relevance to anyone playing a game does what the average american family spends on food have? perhaps you should compare the fact that in some 3rd world countries a family lives off of a buck a day? oh wait, no relevance there either.

 

what one person is willing to spend, has little relevance to another. the value of a dollar varies depending on the wealth of the certain individual involved. just because the amounts quoted seem like a lot of money to you, doesnt mean its even noticed from the bank account by others. after all the very small amount of money that panzer boy says he has spent on this game would shock a family living on a dollar a day. perhaps in the same way my and others spending has shocked poor old panzer.

i am by no means the highest spender in this game and its shocking to think you cant imagine that people would spend this, and in some cases several times more amount on a game.

 

maddogneverwins. your comments entertained me most. not only did you feel the need to jump in, without i may add commenting on the subject at hand, but the comments gave a hilarious account into your view of how the world works and the stereotypical opinion you have about the world and those that live in it. according to you everyone that has wealth is too busy sat in an office on wall street making deals with their stock broker, or sailing around the west indies with a harem of super models sipping champagne and eating caviar. no one with any money is allowed to, or would want to play a game online. awesome statement maddog.

 

so then i look at you old guys playing this game, a lot of you spend far too much time involved with this game for people of your passing years. what does this say about you? maddog, lieutenantme constantly online no matter when i log in. both of you if not playing then in chat talking drivel and getting off chastising kids. seriously is that what your life has become? lieutenantme i still smile at your sad attempt to mock me for not leveling up in over 2 months! perhaps i should live on tanki like you do?

 

panzerboy. look at this thread, the arguments you put forward here, the out and out insults that you dish out to anyone that has a different opinion to yours. seriously its a cliche but you old guys need to get a life. at your age you would have thought that you would realise that there is more to life than becoming obviously irate at a computer game. or perhaps the escape of a virtual world is some solace to the empty unfulfilled life that you are nearing the end of.

 

carry on with your little demonstration here. ive had enough of it, besides the comic value.

 

good luck,

 

MM.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

^ No efforts are futile. People may have thought D-Day was futile, Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook were futile and more.

But they worked. And there is no reason this won't.

A/N anyone think I am a Hippocrate for suddenly supporting this issue?

Look, you guys can keep arguing here all day but I sad it once and I will say It again. DRUG SYSTEM WILL NOT CHANGE.

How old eng commynity is here? Compare it to russian. All of this been done loooooong before you came here and done nothing. Devs won't and can't change drug system because this game stands on it.

Have you ever tried so-called "free" MMORPG? There you will experience major pain in da ass, when you will try to confront donators. Guess what is different in this game? It is arcade and that's it. So wanna keep playing and not spending 1000$ per month then forget about changing drug system.

[Nk100_Original 13]

I only use when the enemy uses drugs

[Lieutenant_Me 65]

so then i look at you old guys playing this game' date=' a lot of you spend far too much time involved with this game for people of your passing years. what does this say about you? maddog, lieutenantme constantly online no matter when i log in. both of you if not playing then in chat talking drivel and getting off chastising kids. seriously is that what your life has become? lieutenantme i still smile at your sad attempt to mock me for not leveling up in over 2 months! perhaps i should live on tanki like you do?[/quote']

 

Dude, you dont know me as I dont know you, but definitely, you deserve a separate Topic. Sadly for you, not here on Tanki.

 

Some users know why I'm here all the time but it's not your business. You need to deal with your problems and seek professional psychiatric help.

[skitee 555]

MonkeyMagic, your starting to sound very much like Snyper22. And that's not a good thing. I used to support you, but once you started to lose the argument, like Snyper, you've kicked the bucket and start insulting everyone and anyone. Whilst I may agree with you on a lot of points, especially towards to end of what you said when you've finally stopped insulting everybody you feel like, I dislike the way you post. It is true that a lot of the comments here are hilariously hypocritical, but then again, looking at it from the other side I am sure that those people would deem your posts (and mine) to be just as hypocritical. I don't see yours as hypocritical, but others might.

 

Panzer-runner, maybe you can answer the question which nobody has yet to give me a proper answer to: What is the difference between drugging and spending crystals, besides from the fact that you deem spending crystals to be absolutely fine but not drugging?

[Snyper22 15]

contrary to what most people believe, most druggers dont drug to win a game against non druggers. Most drug because it makes the game faster and more fun to play. I would much rather play in a game where everyone drugs. playing against a team that does not drug simply isnt fun and is boring. also heavy druggers (most) dont really care about the crystal fund, its a small drop in the ocean in comparison to the amounts spent.

 

as i eluded to in a previous post - to have a 2 tier game. servers for drug games and servers for no supply.

i believe it has been discussed before but the only way i can think to resolve this issue is to have a subscription. a weekly or monthly subscription, one subscription for no supply battles and another at a higher cost for drug battles (drugs would be infinite after subscribing). This would allow players to choose the type of battle that fits them, and their pocket.

 

servers could be split accordingly and everyone is happy!

 

if people want changes they cant expect to play for free. a 10$ a month charge for no supply should be within everyones reach, even kids with pocket money!

 

 

It's certainly an idea, thanks for your input...

[kingeoin14 30]

contrary to what most people believe, most druggers dont drug to win a game against non druggers. Most drug because it makes the game faster and more fun to play. I would much rather play in a game where everyone drugs. playing against a team that does not drug simply isnt fun and is boring. also heavy druggers (most) dont really care about the crystal fund, its a small drop in the ocean in comparison to the amounts spent.

 

as i eluded to in a previous post - to have a 2 tier game. servers for drug games and servers for no supply.

i believe it has been discussed before but the only way i can think to resolve this issue is to have a subscription. a weekly or monthly subscription, one subscription for no supply battles and another at a higher cost for drug battles (drugs would be infinite after subscribing). This would allow players to choose the type of battle that fits them, and their pocket.

 

servers could be split accordingly and everyone is happy!

 

if people want changes they cant expect to play for free. a 10$ a month charge for no supply should be within everyones reach, even kids with pocket money!

 

 

It's certainly an idea, thanks for your input...

 

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[Snyper22 15]

MonkeyMagic, your starting to sound very much like Snyper22. And that's not a good thing. I used to support you, but once you started to lose the argument, like Snyper, you've kicked the bucket and start insulting everyone and anyone. Whilst I may agree with you on a lot of points, especially towards to end of what you said when you've finally stopped insulting everybody you feel like, I dislike the way you post. It is true that a lot of the comments here are hilariously hypocritical, but then again, looking at it from the other side I am sure that those people would deem your posts (and mine) to be just as hypocritical. I don't see yours as hypocritical, but others might.

 

Panzer-runner, maybe you can answer the question which nobody has yet to give me a proper answer to: What is the difference between drugging and spending crystals, besides from the fact that you deem spending crystals to be absolutely fine but not drugging?

 

 

Not a good thing eh?? looks who's TRYING to insult who, but I cannot be insulted by you because I just consider the source.... :lol:

[Snyper22 15]

contrary to what most people believe, most druggers dont drug to win a game against non druggers. Most drug because it makes the game faster and more fun to play. I would much rather play in a game where everyone drugs. playing against a team that does not drug simply isnt fun and is boring. also heavy druggers (most) dont really care about the crystal fund, its a small drop in the ocean in comparison to the amounts spent.

 

as i eluded to in a previous post - to have a 2 tier game. servers for drug games and servers for no supply.

i believe it has been discussed before but the only way i can think to resolve this issue is to have a subscription. a weekly or monthly subscription, one subscription for no supply battles and another at a higher cost for drug battles (drugs would be infinite after subscribing). This would allow players to choose the type of battle that fits them, and their pocket.

 

servers could be split accordingly and everyone is happy!

 

if people want changes they cant expect to play for free. a 10$ a month charge for no supply should be within everyones reach, even kids with pocket money!

 

 

It's certainly an idea, thanks for your input...

 

The attention grabber is here.... just puts up>> .... if that's all your great Harvard mind could come up with to contribute to this discussion, then why even come here????? :?:

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