There needs to be rules or guidelines governing Drugging....

[kingeoin14 30]

http://forum.tankionline.com/posts/list/73999.page

 

This is a dup topic. Both were yours, both concerning drugs. And then, you go around insulting me on the first one. You obviously have nothing better to do than complain. First about the Rico, and now this.

 

Just stop.

 

Well, it's a dup topic, and you are also commenting here as well. Others including myself, agree with many of the complaints about how unbalanced the game has gotten regarding constant drug use. There are all kinds of scams going on that allow people to get drugs and stuff by clicking ads, filling out surveys etc etc etc.

 

The "no-supplies" battles cost when they should be free. What is the harm in letting us players that believe in skill over lame druggers play in the same way as others?? To force people to buy passes if they dont want to be exposed to people who buy or scam their way to huge stockpiles of drugs sucks. Period.

 

I love all the "buy a no-supplies " pass people who can't comprehend the fact that besides the COST (without reason) there are almost NO battles to join, and since so few BUY the pass, setting up a battle and waiting for the FEW people who do give up and buy a pass takes forever.

I also read that link you posted and had to laugh. :D

 

You obviously have nothing better to do than complain.

Let me see if I understand your logic... Someone posts a complaint in the Complaints section to discuss the overuse of drugs, and you take time to complain about the complaint all while calling him a whiner??? Wow, that Harvard education has really paid off, eh?? Perhaps you can still get a refund, maybe in crystals or drugs? :lol: Bwaaa ha ha ha

 

Seriously tho, I know what you mean about drugs being part of the game. I use drugs too, when it has to be done. The problem I see, is that there is a cost to play a good "clean" game with skill, rather than deal with all kinds of stupid, annoying people, who use drugs all the time. (many of whom get drugs in various ways)

 

The balance of the game is at stake here, not personal preference. If a handful of top players (or unskilled players with a credit card they stole from mommy) band together and decide to just drug up with m3 everything, they TOTALLY unbalance the game. The only solution is the no battles pass (which is a good idea) that costs the player that just wants fairness, and also happens to have almost NO games / player base supporting it. :roll: Who will spend 500 EARNED crystals on a pass to play when I only ever see 1 or 2 matches going on at any given time???

 

 

For the love of...

 

This guy only complains. First about the Rico, and now 2 topics on this. How sad is it that he claims to make a "Hit-List" of all druggers?

 

And then, as if that isn't enough, he insults everyone who doesn't agree with him. Notably ME .

 

Then, you say about credit cards. I'm a freaking buyer. Big deal. Its not my problem if everyone else can't afford no supplies battles.

[panzer-runner 2]

The "no-supplies" battles cost when they should be free. What is the harm in letting us players that believe in skill over lame druggers play in the same way as others?? To force people to buy passes if they dont want to be exposed to people who buy or scam their way to huge stockpiles of drugs sucks. Period.

 

I love all the "buy a no-supplies " pass people who can't comprehend the fact that besides the COST (without reason) there are almost NO battles to join, and since so few BUY the pass, setting up a battle and waiting for the FEW people who do give up and buy a pass takes forever.

I also read that link you posted and had to laugh. :D

 

The balance of the game is at stake here, not personal preference. If a handful of top players (or unskilled players with a credit card they stole from mommy) band together and decide to just drug up with m3 everything, they TOTALLY unbalance the game. The only solution is the no battles pass (which is a good idea) that costs the player that just wants fairness, and also happens to have almost NO games / player base supporting it. :roll: Who will spend 500 EARNED crystals on a pass to play when I only ever see 1 or 2 matches going on at any given time???

 

For the love of...

 

This guy only complains. First about the Rico, and now 2 topics on this. How sad is it that he claims to make a "Hit-List" of all druggers?

 

And then, as if that isn't enough, he insults everyone who doesn't agree with him. Notably ME .

 

Then, you say about credit cards. I'm a freaking buyer. Big deal. Its not my problem if everyone else can't afford no supplies battles.

 

Ok, first off, stop complaining about people that complain. This is the complaints section, get it?? If you don't have anything constructive to add to this debate / complaints, then why bother whining about those that have legitimate complaints? People do have complaints and thats a good thing, it guides development and allows for a better community overall.

 

Second I'll try this again since you obviously did not read or address anything I wrote, which is fine, but then why post to simply whine rather than debate?

 

You write "Its not my problem if everyone else can't afford no supplies battles."

 

YES it IS your problem. Here is why: I am glad your able to buy whatever you want. Good for you. Do you want to play with yourself? Do you want to play with others? Make a choice. Right now, there are almost NO games of the "no supplies" type mostly because nobody can afford to, or refuses to buy a pass. It is unfair to have to BUY a pass in order to play a clean game without druggers ruining it. If you buy a pass, good for you, I guess that means you also want to play games without druggers, at least some times? Then you should also want to see as many games available as "no-supplies" versions as possible and that would happen only if it costs the same as "regular" games (druggers paradise)

 

I think we should all try to remember that arguing over Tanki Online shows we are passionate and care about the game, while complaining about each other simply shows a lack of respect for each other. Just my 2c....

[kingeoin14 30]

The "no-supplies" battles cost when they should be free. What is the harm in letting us players that believe in skill over lame druggers play in the same way as others?? To force people to buy passes if they dont want to be exposed to people who buy or scam their way to huge stockpiles of drugs sucks. Period.

 

I love all the "buy a no-supplies " pass people who can't comprehend the fact that besides the COST (without reason) there are almost NO battles to join, and since so few BUY the pass, setting up a battle and waiting for the FEW people who do give up and buy a pass takes forever.

I also read that link you posted and had to laugh. :D

 

The balance of the game is at stake here, not personal preference. If a handful of top players (or unskilled players with a credit card they stole from mommy) band together and decide to just drug up with m3 everything, they TOTALLY unbalance the game. The only solution is the no battles pass (which is a good idea) that costs the player that just wants fairness, and also happens to have almost NO games / player base supporting it. :roll: Who will spend 500 EARNED crystals on a pass to play when I only ever see 1 or 2 matches going on at any given time???

 

For the love of...

 

This guy only complains. First about the Rico, and now 2 topics on this. How sad is it that he claims to make a "Hit-List" of all druggers?

 

And then, as if that isn't enough, he insults everyone who doesn't agree with him. Notably ME .

 

Then, you say about credit cards. I'm a freaking buyer. Big deal. Its not my problem if everyone else can't afford no supplies battles.

 

Ok, first off, stop complaining about people that complain. This is the complaints section, get it?? If you don't have anything constructive to add to this debate / complaints, then why bother whining about those that have legitimate complaints? People do have complaints and thats a good thing, it guides development and allows for a better community overall.

 

Second I'll try this again since you obviously did not read or address anything I wrote, which is fine, but then why post to simply whine rather than debate?

 

You write "Its not my problem if everyone else can't afford no supplies battles."

 

YES it IS your problem. Here is why: I am glad your able to buy whatever you want. Good for you. Do you want to play with yourself? Do you want to play with others? Make a choice. Right now, there are almost NO games of the "no supplies" type mostly because nobody can afford to, or refuses to buy a pass. It is unfair to have to BUY a pass in order to play a clean game without druggers ruining it. If you buy a pass, good for you, I guess that means you also want to play games without druggers, at least some times? Then you should also want to see as many games available as "no-supplies" versions as possible and that would happen only if it costs the same as "regular" games (druggers paradise)

 

I think we should all try to remember that arguing over Tanki Online shows we are passionate and care about the game, while complaining about each other simply shows a lack of respect for each other. Just my 2c....

 

1. My point is, the guy who made this topic has obviously forgotten all the good things about Tanki. He only sees the bad.

 

2. Do not say sarcastic comments about my Harvard education. I work. I think I deserve to be able to go on a forum without people shouting at me for being a buyer. I'm a buyer because I have a comfortable life. I have a high paid job, a wife, a 3-year old daughter. Just because I am young (24) doesn't mean I don't understand what you are saying. Do not comment on my life and education, please.

 

3. No supplies pass too expensive for everyone but me? Well, DAILY BONUS. You can get one free.

 

I hope this clears up the issue.

[r_nuclearbom0 62]

The "no-supplies" battles cost when they should be free. What is the harm in letting us players that believe in skill over lame druggers play in the same way as others?? To force people to buy passes if they dont want to be exposed to people who buy or scam their way to huge stockpiles of drugs sucks. Period.

 

I love all the "buy a no-supplies " pass people who can't comprehend the fact that besides the COST (without reason) there are almost NO battles to join, and since so few BUY the pass, setting up a battle and waiting for the FEW people who do give up and buy a pass takes forever.

I also read that link you posted and had to laugh. :D

 

The balance of the game is at stake here, not personal preference. If a handful of top players (or unskilled players with a credit card they stole from mommy) band together and decide to just drug up with m3 everything, they TOTALLY unbalance the game. The only solution is the no battles pass (which is a good idea) that costs the player that just wants fairness, and also happens to have almost NO games / player base supporting it. :roll: Who will spend 500 EARNED crystals on a pass to play when I only ever see 1 or 2 matches going on at any given time???

 

For the love of...

 

This guy only complains. First about the Rico, and now 2 topics on this. How sad is it that he claims to make a "Hit-List" of all druggers?

 

And then, as if that isn't enough, he insults everyone who doesn't agree with him. Notably ME .

 

Then, you say about credit cards. I'm a freaking buyer. Big deal. Its not my problem if everyone else can't afford no supplies battles.

 

Ok, first off, stop complaining about people that complain. This is the complaints section, get it?? If you don't have anything constructive to add to this debate / complaints, then why bother whining about those that have legitimate complaints? People do have complaints and thats a good thing, it guides development and allows for a better community overall.

 

Second I'll try this again since you obviously did not read or address anything I wrote, which is fine, but then why post to simply whine rather than debate?

 

You write "Its not my problem if everyone else can't afford no supplies battles."

 

YES it IS your problem. Here is why: I am glad your able to buy whatever you want. Good for you. Do you want to play with yourself? Do you want to play with others? Make a choice. Right now, there are almost NO games of the "no supplies" type mostly because nobody can afford to, or refuses to buy a pass. It is unfair to have to BUY a pass in order to play a clean game without druggers ruining it. If you buy a pass, good for you, I guess that means you also want to play games without druggers, at least some times? Then you should also want to see as many games available as "no-supplies" versions as possible and that would happen only if it costs the same as "regular" games (druggers paradise)

 

I think we should all try to remember that arguing over Tanki Online shows we are passionate and care about the game, while complaining about each other simply shows a lack of respect for each other. Just my 2c....

 

1. My point is, the guy who made this topic has obviously forgotten all the good things about Tanki. He only sees the bad.

 

2. Do not say sarcastic comments about my Harvard education. I work. I think I deserve to be able to go on a forum without people shouting at me for being a buyer. I'm a buyer because I have a comfortable life. I have a high paid job, a wife, a 3-year old daughter. Just because I am young (24) doesn't mean I don't understand what you are saying. Do not comment on my life and education, please.

 

3. No supplies pass too expensive for everyone but me? Well, DAILY BONUS. You can get one free.

 

I hope this clears up the issue.

 

True.

[panzer-runner 2]

The "no-supplies" battles cost when they should be free. What is the harm in letting us players that believe in skill over lame druggers play in the same way as others?? To force people to buy passes if they dont want to be exposed to people who buy or scam their way to huge stockpiles of drugs sucks. Period.

 

I love all the "buy a no-supplies " pass people who can't comprehend the fact that besides the COST (without reason) there are almost NO battles to join, and since so few BUY the pass, setting up a battle and waiting for the FEW people who do give up and buy a pass takes forever.

I also read that link you posted and had to laugh. :D

 

The balance of the game is at stake here, not personal preference. If a handful of top players (or unskilled players with a credit card they stole from mommy) band together and decide to just drug up with m3 everything, they TOTALLY unbalance the game. The only solution is the no battles pass (which is a good idea) that costs the player that just wants fairness, and also happens to have almost NO games / player base supporting it. :roll: Who will spend 500 EARNED crystals on a pass to play when I only ever see 1 or 2 matches going on at any given time???

 

For the love of...

 

This guy only complains. First about the Rico, and now 2 topics on this. How sad is it that he claims to make a "Hit-List" of all druggers?

 

And then, as if that isn't enough, he insults everyone who doesn't agree with him. Notably ME .

 

Then, you say about credit cards. I'm a freaking buyer. Big deal. Its not my problem if everyone else can't afford no supplies battles.

 

Ok, first off, stop complaining about people that complain. This is the complaints section, get it?? If you don't have anything constructive to add to this debate / complaints, then why bother whining about those that have legitimate complaints? People do have complaints and thats a good thing, it guides development and allows for a better community overall.

 

Second I'll try this again since you obviously did not read or address anything I wrote, which is fine, but then why post to simply whine rather than debate?

 

You write "Its not my problem if everyone else can't afford no supplies battles."

 

YES it IS your problem. Here is why: I am glad your able to buy whatever you want. Good for you. Do you want to play with yourself? Do you want to play with others? Make a choice. Right now, there are almost NO games of the "no supplies" type mostly because nobody can afford to, or refuses to buy a pass. It is unfair to have to BUY a pass in order to play a clean game without druggers ruining it. If you buy a pass, good for you, I guess that means you also want to play games without druggers, at least some times? Then you should also want to see as many games available as "no-supplies" versions as possible and that would happen only if it costs the same as "regular" games (druggers paradise)

 

I think we should all try to remember that arguing over Tanki Online shows we are passionate and care about the game, while complaining about each other simply shows a lack of respect for each other. Just my 2c....

 

1. My point is, the guy who made this topic has obviously forgotten all the good things about Tanki. He only sees the bad.

 

2. Do not say sarcastic comments about my Harvard education. I work. I think I deserve to be able to go on a forum without people shouting at me for being a buyer. I'm a buyer because I have a comfortable life. I have a high paid job, a wife, a 3-year old daughter. Just because I am young (24) doesn't mean I don't understand what you are saying. Do not comment on my life and education, please.

 

3. No supplies pass too expensive for everyone but me? Well, DAILY BONUS. You can get one free.

 

I hope this clears up the issue.

 

I just received a free one day pass YAY, the bad news: there was not even a single no-supplies game to play ! That is the problem NO SUPPORT for drugger free games if you must pay.

 

Look, I dont give a sh*t about you or your made up life, none of us care, and you are the one that brought it up. NONE of us care about you personally, if you think we do, your self obssesed. You never address what I post. You just whine and complain without even giving consideration to what is being said.

 

Let me attempt yet again to show you how adults debate:

 

1. My point is, the guy who made this topic has obviously forgotten all the good things about Tanki. He only sees the bad.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but this thread is about rules or guidelines governing Drugging, not "OOOh so and so whines and complains whaa whaa whaa :cry: This is just you complaining about a person rather than debating the topic. Period.

 

2. Do not say sarcastic comments about my Harvard education. I work. I think I deserve to be able to go on a forum without people shouting at me for being a buyer. I'm a buyer because I have a comfortable life. I have a high paid job, a wife, a 3-year old daughter. Just because I am young (24) doesn't mean I don't understand what you are saying. Do not comment on my life and education, please.

Where did I "shout at you" (or anyone for that matter) for being a buyer??? Also what the h*ll does having a wife, a 3 year old etc have to do with this topic ?? Do you think anyone here cares about that? We don't. You went on this particular thread to whine about the OP and not to comment about the topic, not good manners. If you bring up your Life and Education, it is fair game to comment on then. I read your post in that other thread YOU linked to, and YOU brought up your Harvard Education. How else could anyone know otherwise??? If you bring it up yourself, don't then continue to whine when it is used against you. This is also just you complaining about a person rather than debating the topic. Period.

 

3. No supplies pass too expensive for everyone but me? Well, DAILY BONUS. You can get one free.

Who ever said this?? Did you even READ anything I posted? It's not about you, the world does not revolve around YOU. It is about druggers ruining the game for many people and we would like SOLUTIONS. One idea is to make the no-supplies games free so it encourages people to make and use those games. Why are you so obsessed with yourself??? I can certainly afford it, as can many others, but we dont because it seems UNFAIR that we must PAY to get a clean game and also because THERE ARE ALMOST NO GAMES AVAILABLE of the type "no-supplies". This is because no one wants to pay for the privilege if there are NO GAMES TO PLAY!!!!!

 

kingeoin14, please try to stick to the effin' topic and stop whining about people and what so and so thinks of me or you or Harvard or whatever. This thread is not "did you hear what so-and-so said in homeroom" The topic is :There needs to be rules or guidelines governing Drugging.... Feel free to comment about the idea of making the pass free or if you have any other relevant ideas.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Moved to General, PS, I won't be drugging at all for the next couple of games just to see how annoying it really is. :roll:

 

Takes out 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 keys from the keyboard with a spoon.

[EisenhowerOrg 0]

Join no supplies battles so you don't need a spoon. :D

 

On topic:

I remember an Island battle when I was WO5 or something like that.

After some time a WO5 entered with Freeze M3, Vking M3 and rock paint. He was so strong compared to the others players, he didn't need drugs at all. And when his opponents were using drugs he was drugging too only to stop others from using drugs. It was so annoying that I still remember it.

Why I'm telling this? Due to a great buyer we lost the battle. That time I joined mostly battles with a rank limit so the high ranks weren't able to ruin the battle. But the buyer with lower ranks were still able to do so. And I remember lower ranks ruining my game by having very good equipment, but not player taking the battle fund by only drugging.

 

So I think people complaining about all the drugs are doing something wrong or have bad luck because they have team mates that are very weak.

By the way, I'm talking in general and I don't say there are no exceptions possible.

 

When talking about supplies it is mostly a matter of planning and strategy.

Take care that you have enough supplies to finish the battle and if you don't get enough as your daily bonus, because you are playing tanki online too often, maybe it is a good idea too consider buying a no supplies battle pass.

And when you think it is too expensive, try to calculate your loss because of opponents using drugs. Don't forget the victories of your team by using drugs.

It is easy to get angry because of lost battles due to drugs, but it is often much more difficult to remember the victories due to drugs.

When you lose more than 500 per month it is worth too buy a pass.

 

Also don't forget use the rank limitation.

When all of this is still not enough, mabye join shorter battles, because it is often not worth to "steal" the battle fund of a short battle and it also does not so much pain if the fund will be stolen.

[Goldeneagle 9]

Moved to General' date=' PS, I won't be drugging [i']at all[/i] for the next couple of games just to see how annoying it really is. :roll:

 

Takes out 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 keys from the keyboard with a spoon.

 

DOnt 4grt da numpad.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

DOnt 4grt da numpad.

I was flipped off by an annoying drugger >_<

[kingeoin14 30]

DOnt 4grt da numpad.

I was flipped off by an annoying drugger >_<

 

XD

 

I give up arguing against people who whine about drugs...

 

Kingeoin14 has left this topic...

[Seemefly 4]

Those noobs who call us noobs. :roll:

 

I tell them its part of the game!

If you don't want to go join a no supplies. xD

 

Only thing that's harsh is a m3 viking and m3 rico drugging with prodigi.

[Tommy60 406]

Those noobs who call us noobs. :roll:

 

I tell them its part of the game!

If you don't want to go join a no supplies. xD

 

Only thing that's harsh is a m3 viking and m3 rico drugging with prodigi.

 

 

Same with ANY 2.0 combos! =P

[kingeoin14 30]

Those noobs who call us noobs. :roll:

 

I tell them its part of the game!

If you don't want to go join a no supplies. xD

 

Only thing that's harsh is a m3 viking and m3 rico drugging with prodigi.

 

 

Same with ANY 2.0 combos! =P

 

People say M3 Viking on drugs is invincible, but M3 Mammoth is better on drugs.

 

A/N I know I said I left this topic, but what do ya know?

[panzer-runner 2]

I know its like beating a dead horse around here, but.....

 

It really is not about if you like using drugs or not, its about the balance and fairness of play. As it stands right now, drugs ARE part of the game and that is just fine. The problem is that many like to play long games and build up the pot without having to worry about some jack*ss joining and ruining it for everyone else who is in the game. One person presses 1234 and it is suddenly an all out brainless drug war. As of today, you can BUY a pass to play without drugs, but that seems unfair. Why should the people that want to play "clean" have to PAY while druggers get a free ride to jump in and steal and plunder ???

 

Make the pass free, and have no supply games start to pop up as often as regular games, and this is no longer a problem. No one is saying DONT USE DRUGS. Many are saying "Give us a choice to exclude druggers"

 

Tell me in honesty how many games you see with the little "no supplies" icon next to it at any given time?? I actually got a free 1 day pass and couldnt even use it since there was no games to play

[panzer-runner 2]

Moved to General' date=' PS, I won't be drugging [i']at all[/i] for the next couple of games just to see how annoying it really is. :roll:

 

Takes out 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 keys from the keyboard with a spoon.

 

Hehe, I hope you wear your hip boots because the s*it gets deep :lol:

[Snyper22 15]

I'll throw my opinion in as well, I agree with all those that are sick and tired of lame *ss losers who drug their way to victory. There is a time and place for drugging, but its out of control. If drugs are so "cool" then make those that want to drug pay for the privilege. Of course, since the games you can drug in are free, and the no drugging games cost it must mean drugging is lame :twisted:

 

As anyone can see, people that would spend real money on Tanki are no longer supporting it because of the drugging. Obviously someone decided that if drugging was annoying, everyone will go out and BUY more drugs and Tanki will get some money.

 

WRONG.

 

It drives people away. I wont even waste my time with long games anymore since you cant trust them and clans will simply steal the fund. There are all kinds of scams and other ways to gain crystals besides buying them and then use them to buy large amounts of drugs, which can be used to steal big games and do it over and over etc etc.

 

Another annoying side effect is that there are so many clueless players out there that start a CTF game and then immediately start drugging 1234 all game. Those that do that are too dumb to deal with. They dont even understand the fact that drugging your way to a quick win in CTF means smaller fund which means less crystals for EVERYONE. Idiots.

 

Here is an idea: (would not fix all the problems, but hey, I think its a cool idea)

 

Every tanki player should have a "drug test" number next to their name. It should be a number that indicates how often the person drugs. 0 = clean, 100 = all the time.

 

Then we could all see who the druggers are and avoid them when possible. (and shame them without mercy :P )

 

 

You have some great ideas panzer, and I like the way that you think, I hope to play on your team sometime or even get you to join my clan?? lol a clan of nice, non cheating people...

[Snyper22 15]

I know its like beating a dead horse around here, but.....

 

It really is not about if you like using drugs or not, its about the balance and fairness of play. As it stands right now, drugs ARE part of the game and that is just fine. The problem is that many like to play long games and build up the pot without having to worry about some jack*ss joining and ruining it for everyone else who is in the game. One person presses 1234 and it is suddenly an all out brainless drug war. As of today, you can BUY a pass to play without drugs, but that seems unfair. Why should the people that want to play "clean" have to PAY while druggers get a free ride to jump in and steal and plunder ???

 

Make the pass free, and have no supply games start to pop up as often as regular games, and this is no longer a problem. No one is saying DONT USE DRUGS. Many are saying "Give us a choice to exclude druggers"

 

Tell me in honesty how many games you see with the little "no supplies" icon next to it at any given time?? I actually got a free 1 day pass and couldnt even use it since there was no games to play

 

 

+1000 :D

[kingeoin14 30]

Am I a hippocrate if I now support Snyper?

[G_AHMED 12]

play no supply battle and end this :hunf:

[russia102010 14]

play no supply battle and end this :hunf:

But it is preety expensive.

[G_AHMED 12]

you can get it for free or buy for a month

or play small ranks battle ..few small ranks come and drug

or u be a drugging guy on your own,,

 

i suggest last one

[r_Xenonzx0 10]

Moved to General' date=' PS, I won't be drugging [i']at all[/i] for the next couple of games just to see how annoying it really is. :roll:

 

Takes out 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 keys from the keyboard with a spoon.

i bet u cant go an hour wihtout drugs

real or tanki ones

plus, mods drug...alot

[Barghest 84]

Hehe i like to drug, that is no secret. But sadly i used up almost all and now i face the same problem as all of you.

 

But now is skill what matters, i might not kill the drugger directly, but flipping him works fine too.

[G_AHMED 12]

some drug using players use them bad way

and i mean it

 

 

u can kill a drug full tank with only using 1 power :) be smart,,

[cablaz 32]

How about just make a seperate server where you cant drug at all, no supply server, its free and you can choose to go there, dont wana go there? sure no problem.

 

That way druggers Vs. Druggers

 

Non vs. Non