Railgun guide

[finlay27 0]

well, theres been a lot of discussion about the rail. people are asking if its worth it, i say yes. take a look at the reasons below.

 

1: the rail can be very powerful, and it takes out most noob tanks eg. titan, dictator and hunter very easily. mostly one shot.

 

2:but it has its downsides. it takes a while to reload, slow turret movement (exept for rail M3). and most tanks like viking and mammoth can withstand these quite easily.

 

3:best tactics for fighting with the railgun is to hide behind a wall/building/corner move out from behind cover and take your shot, then drive straight backwards into cover. often if you use double power, the shot can take out most tanks, just dont get caught out.

 

Railgun stats: M0 M1 M2 M3

hp - : 30-45 34-51 42-67 55-85

shots/min: 8.0 8.2 8.5 8.7

grad/sec: 34.4 40.1 57.3 80.2

 

thanks for listening. :)

 

please PM me if you like this guide. if i get over 100 views, im making a guide on the firebird :)

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Viking cannot withstand Railgun easily.

Railgun's reload is prefect for the damage.

[skitee 555]

1. Good point.

 

2. Use DP if Vikings and Mammoths are proving annoying :P

 

3. This is how to play railgun - if your playing for D/L. The fact is, this tactic is what most people think how to use railgun - but it is by no means the most effective. If you use this tactic, you have no real sight at your targets, no real way of knowing who is weakened and who is not, no way of seeing even if there is an enemy there. It's effective for D/L but nothing else.

 

The way I played (now I primarily use thunder) railgun and got 2.00 D/Ls BUT got my kills faster than other m3 railguns who were using the hide-behind-wall technique was:

 

-Don't go haring through the middle of a map. Stick to the edges, but there's no need to hide behind one wall the whole time. That's just cowardly and ineffective. The only map where that's any good is Camp.

 

-Shoot at range. Shoot people who are well far away from you. Railgun is a sniper weapon, not a melee!

 

-Use turret turning all the time. This is an absolute necessity with railgun.

 

-Keep an eye out on everything. Then you know who to shoot with your shot, who to kill steal from, or who to one-shot.

 

-Don't get into a firefight with something that will beat you, eg an m3 thunder or a higher m railgun. Now, when I use m3 thunder, I love all the m3 (or even lower!) railguns who, when I shoot them, just shoot back and try to win a battle they will obviously lose. Nope, if you are a railgun and get caught up in a firefight with a m2/3 thunder, back off and get out of the thunder's line of sight, find another spot to camp in, and live to fight another day! This is a really important tactic.

 

-Use any obstacles that you have around you. Remember that all you need, if you fight against people of a similar rank to you, is two shots on your enemy before they are dead. So if you buy yourself enough time to let off that second shot, then you win! Run circles around even the smallest obstacles to avoid that freeze or firebird - one I particularly love is the bottom of the big ramp in polygon. As long as you dodge the enemy fire for enough time to let off that second shot, it's all good.

 

-You can use walls, but if you just hide behind one all the time, your only using your railgun to about 30/40% of it's full potential. There's really no point to do it.

 

-Don't be afraid to mine. Mine out your sniping positions, mine when your backing off from freezes, mine as you go round a corner to escape that stalking thunder, mine when you land on top of an enemy, mine inside an enemy ghost when they respawn right where you are - you'll be surprised how effective mines can be!

 

-Double Power. Use 'em. But not when anyone's looking. :twisted:

 

-Don't use the same position all the time. People can then find you and can set out particularly to find you (they find snipers more annoying than melees, for some reason). So try to change position each death you get. Try not to use the same position twice in a row.

 

-Turn any position into a sniping position. Locate your escape routes, your weak points, the location of the enemies, the direction you'll normally shoot, etc. Once you've done that, mine out your weakest point, and watch out for that sneaky freeze or rico! With a lot of practise, you'll turn this into a habit - I even do it now with thunder, even though it isn't so necessary.

 

I like your guide, although you did put down the point that gets me so annoyed because most people think it's the way to use railgun when it most certainly isn't.

 

You also failed to note one of the most annoying things about railgun - I found it's quite difficult to get crystal boxes and kills at the same time - you have to prioritise one or the other.

[P3DRo0o 75]

skitee... u shud be an admin..... ur sooooo into the game :D lol

[skitee 555]

skitee... u shud be an admin..... ur sooooo into the game :D lol

 

Nah.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

skitee, your point 3 is invalid...

 

If you use this tactic' date=' you have no real sight at your targets, no real way of knowing who is weakened and who is not, no way of seeing even if there is an enemy there[/quote']

[r_bluelight0 3]

on the level 'silence' on the right side ramp (if you are looking from the blue side)

instaed of going down the ramp drive on the floor next to it (inbetween the house and ramp)

if you are that far back people coming up the ramp can easily be shot way before they can shoot you.

it helps if you wait for them to get shot by someone else beofre you shoot to get the exp/points.

 

also in the same positon you can shoot (depends which silenece map) the ramp o the other side of the map.

I think by far this is the best place and as a rank *// you can easily deafeat freeze thunder ect at close range,

so easy shots. And they cannot spot you easily so will not be the first place they shoot.

 

but be careful not to reverse to much or you fall off the edge

 

Also look out for people sniping you from long disatnces, usually they don't notice you and dont think that you are a threat because you are not aiming at you.

 

so what do you think of that? :P

[r_bluelight0 3]

forgot to mention:

look out for rico!

take cover behind the buildings

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Is that my any chance below the ramp, opposite of red team's tower?

[skitee 555]

skitee, your point 3 is invalid...

 

If you use this tactic' date=' you have no real sight at your targets, no real way of knowing who is weakened and who is not, no way of seeing even if there is an enemy there[/quote']

 

How is it invalid? Surely if you are hiding behind a building and only coming out to take your shot you are going to have very little knowledge of where the enemies are who have been weakened, and the like.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

How is it invalid? Surely if you are hiding behind a building and only coming out to take your shot you are going to have very little knowledge of where the enemies are who have been weakened' date=' and the like.[/quote']

 

And that statement further tells us that you don't know anything about Railgun pro players and camera controls.

[Ranger7 75]

How is it invalid? Surely if you are hiding behind a building and only coming out to take your shot you are going to have very little knowledge of where the enemies are who have been weakened' date=' and the like.[/quote']

 

And that statement further tells us that you don't know anything about Railgun pro players and camera controls.

Woooo, hold on there kool. Skit has used rail ALOT. Its not like he doesnt know anything about this, but, if you do it, youd better have an isida. (Good job there kool on the battle! You are really crushing that guy! :P ) Very fun to watch! I think I will finish it!

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Woooo' date=' hold on there kool. Skit has used rail ALOT. Its not like he doesnt know anything about this, but, if you do it, youd better have an isida.[/quote']

 

Never said he did not know anything about Railgun. Just said he did not know how professional players play with it. And how the camera controls work.

[skitee 555]

And that statement further tells us that you don't know anything about Railgun pro players and camera controls.

 

Hmm... I actually do notice that I use camera controls very little, primarily using "Z" and "X" in the entirety for camera controls, which does work me well. Even so, you fail to realise one thing. In a ranged map, using enough "Page Up" to see over the taller buildings, how much range do you have to see enemies? Not enough I would expect, although I need to test it out for myself.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Hmm... I actually do notice that I use camera controls very little' date=' primarily using "Z" and "X" in the entirety for camera controls, which does work me well. Even so, you fail to realise one thing. In a ranged map, using enough "Page Up" to see over the taller buildings, how much range do you have to see enemies? Not enough I would expect, although I need to test it out for myself.[/quote']

 

AS you would notice, We don't keep it held up at the bird's eye view. Its never static. That short duel is about 10 minutes in length, I got 2k key pulses from that......

 

ps, Z & X are not camera controls.

[skitee 555]

AS you would notice' date=' [b']We[/b] don't keep it held up at the bird's eye view. Its never static. That short duel is about 10 minutes in length, I got 2k key pulses from that......

 

Of course I noticed that, although I couldn't see Coolone's camera view. So you can't include him in your statement.

 

Even so, you are playing in Sandbox. What type of large buildings are there in sandbox? You don't need it at Bird's eye view to see over the wall. But what if you are in a bigger map, say, Serpulhov? What then? You won't be able to see over without a maximum or near-maximum camera height, and that does severely limit your range.

[ShadowKnightX 18]

Skit, no1 wins an argument wit walky O_O

[skitee 555]

Skit' date=' no1 wins an argument wit walky O_O[/quote']

 

-.- I've seen it happen before.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Of course I noticed that' date=' although I couldn't see Coolone's camera view. So you can't include him in your statement.[/quote']

 

Coolone's response to my tank's movement makes it a fact that he is using the camera controls as well.

 

Even so, you are playing in Sandbox. What type of large buildings are there in sandbox? You don't need it at Bird's eye view to see over the wall. But what if you are in a bigger map, say, Serpulhov? What then? You won't be able to see over without a maximum or near-maximum camera height, and that does severely limit your range.

 

Honestly speaking, I never had that problem... Yes, There are one or two blind spots but with clever movements you can even take a look at them. The problem only arises when you have to choose between shooting an aggressive player, or the enemy's sniper, at Serpuhov that is.

[skitee 555]

Of course I noticed that' date=' although I couldn't see Coolone's camera view. So you can't include him in your statement.[/quote']

 

Coolone's response to my tank's movement makes it a fact that he is using the camera controls as well.

 

And you assume because he is playing well he is using the camera controls? But I see your point.

 

 

Honestly speaking, I never had that problem... Yes, There are one or two blind spots but with clever movements you can even take a look at them. The problem only arises when you have to choose between shooting an aggressive player, or the enemy's sniper, at Serpuhov that is.

 

Yes, ok. You win. I was going into an argument over an issue I didn't really have all that much experience about: having not much experience at using camera controls, I had no idea. I still think that sticking behind a wall all day is a pathetic waste of your railgun, and it is, railgun has a lot more potential. But at the same time, there is a way of looking over the wall: albeit, you do get a better view in clear sight.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

And you assume because he is playing well he is using the camera controls? But I see your point.

 

You cannot play well with Railgun without using camera controls. I've had duels with Coolone and other Railgun players that ended like that one did, 10:8. And I've had 10:0 =)

 

Yes' date=' ok. You win.[/quote']

 

Glad to know that.

[ShadowKnightX 18]

And you assume because he is playing well he is using the camera controls? But I see your point.

 

You cannot play well with Railgun without using camera controls. I've had duels with Coolone and other Railgun players that ended like that one did, 10:8. And I've had 10:0 =)

 

Yes' date=' ok. You win.[/quote']

 

Glad to know that.

Told you skit ._.

[Ranger7 75]

Hmm, waiiit a moment. Kool, your are right when saying that it is good to use camera controls, (I do, and you can bet Im good) (LOL, Just Kidding. :wink: I actually use thunder now) But anyway, big buildings do pose as anoyances for railers, especially on the red team, silence. (Again, I actually dont have that problem alot, but, when it happens, it can be annoying, especially because rail is not superior to the thunder, which PWNS on silence. Note, I am only saying that skit was right, but the problem IS very rare. It, though, is a problem to be dealt with.

[Delta_88 17]

Here's a tactic to use with the Railgun (most commonly know as "Sniper V1" I think) in Hit'n'Run

[awkstremer 1]

....you get all those stuff through experience.....noobs don't be afraid to spend crystals, everything in the garage is worth it as long as you become skilled and good at combining equipment.