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I think its ok that freeze is very strong.

its a close-range weapon, and in tier 1 firebird was similarly stronger then the others.

 

but I think the "freezing power" should be modified.

stopping you in your tracks is fine for m3, but should a freeze m0 slow you down the same rate ?

shouldn't it get stronger as your m level ?

 

or - another suggestion -

maybe change how long the slow down effect last (after the freezing) for each m level ?

 

right now its almost impossible to steal flags when even freeze m0 is guarding.

even if you manage to kill him, the slowdown effect takes so long to wear off, that his whole team can respawns and get you... you just cant get away.

 

what do you think ?

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In my honest opinion, and I am a fan of the freeze myself, the power of the freeze is just a tad to much. Its incredibly frustrating to run into one puppy guarding a flag. It is sad how a single warrant officer can stop a few people on his own with it, giving his teamates enough time to take them out.

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right now its almost impossible to steal flags when even freeze m0 is guarding.

even if you manage to kill him, the slowdown effect takes so long to wear off, that his whole team can respawns and get you... you just cant get away.

...

 

You should buy antifreeze paint. You will get less damage and defrost faster. Or kill protector on a distance

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+1

Ricochet is much more powerful and versatile weapon.

 

Rico sure is versatile, but being able to do good in every situation, it has no perfect role on the battlefield, like other tier2 thunder (kill), freeze (flags) or shaft (snipe).

 

Back on topic, I also think freezeing ability should be improved as you upgrade your weapon, but as now you just need an anti freeze paint and a good freeze to take out those annoying W.O with freeze, damaging/killing other people on your way thanks to freeze AoE.

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Freeze is well-balanced. Just because it is a good camper doesn't mean much. So what if it is a good camper? Someone playing like that doesn't really get that many points. Twins may be the most annoying weapon in the game, but to say that it is the best would require some serious stupidity. Just the same with Freeze.

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Rico sure is versatile' date=' but being able to do good in every situation, it has no perfect role on the battlefield, like other tier2 thunder (kill), freeze (flags) or shaft (snipe).[/quote']

 

Rico + Viking combo is perfect for forcibly capturing enemy flags and returning friendly flags. No other weapon combination can match Rico + Viking in this aspect.

 

But back to Freeze, what is it good for? For hiding near friendly flag to freeze enemy capers to death. And for stealing enemy flags with Hornet. Basicly that's all. Generally Freeze is good for deathmatches, but I'm not sure it surpasses Thunder, Ricochet or Shaft.

 

Each weapon has its own application, strong sides and weaknesses.

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Seems like you never played with freeze, Viking + Freeze can forcibly capture flags way easier than Rico. Freeze M3 power and AoE are enough to take down every flag guardian, if you take them by surprise with Hornet you wont even get damaged, while Viking has good enough HP to withstand some and good enough speed to runaway with flag. Rico can kill one enemy at time, if you are stopped by more than one good (in terms of equip.) player while caping/returning flag get ready to respawn. Or at least that's what I've experienced while playing with Freeze and Rico.

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Well, I think tanki needs to modify the freeze because when I use firebird m2 the freeze always cancels out my firebrid. So on the updated tanki they should cancel out each other out depending on the anount of times the wepon has been upgraded.

 

please pm me if you have any questions :lol:

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thank you for all your opinions.

 

IMHO' date=' Freeze is quite over powered, But the thing is, that it was even stronger about an year ago when it was finally nerf'd. =) So I think its domination of close range is accepted at the moment.[/quote']

 

again - Freeze owns in 1v1 close combat, and that is fine. it should be.

I don't mind that its so strong. thats fair because its a close range weapon.

 

but I'm talking about CTF matches.

usually, even when only 1 freeze is guarding the flag, this is a problem.

even if you catch him by surprise, or use team tactics, if he touched you - you will get stuck. then the teammates come - and that is it.

 

maybe paint is a solution. but those are expensive, and you need to really save for those m3's.

 

it would be ok if a general with an m3 freeze would own like that. but a low WO ? why do I need paint to deal with a low WO ?

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thank you for all your opinions.

 

IMHO' date=' Freeze is quite over powered, But the thing is, that it was even stronger about an year ago when it was finally nerf'd. =) So I think its domination of close range is accepted at the moment.[/quote']

 

again - Freeze owns in 1v1 close combat, and that is fine. it should be.

I don't mind that its so strong. thats fair because its a close range weapon.

 

but I'm talking about CTF matches.

usually, even when only 1 freeze is guarding the flag, this is a problem.

even if you catch him by surprise, or use team tactics, if he touched you - you will get stuck. then the teammates come - and that is it.

 

maybe paint is a solution. but those are expensive, and you need to really save for those m3's.

 

it would be ok if a general with an m3 freeze would own like that. but a low WO ? why do I need paint to deal with a low WO ?

 

I sense you are soloing

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