kingeoin14 (or whatever the spelling:) Why are you so dense???? That's right it's a part of the game currently... the key word here being "currently," that is exactly why I and many others here are hoping for change, becauce, unbeknownst to you, change is what makes progression, turns the world around it's axis, and makes us all better homosapian's... (don't get excited people, it means humans) which probably explains why you king bla bla whatever your nick is, do not want CHANGE... YOU deal with it little boy... And ShadeX2: ahaahh how pompus of you to think that you speak for everyone here by saying that noone would miss me??? ahahh don't make laugh, there are plenty of people here that enjoy my company and wit, I can only hope the same for you and your little "companion" there....lol See? You criticize people who don't agree with you and insult them. In a debate you must take the points of the other side into consideration. Just because some people don't agree does not give you the right to use insults. First of all, only those that let themselves be criticized can be, you must feel I have some valid points by pointing at your character e.t.c... or else you would not feel "criticized" in the first place,,, I am not critcizing you, I am merely making an outward observation, and I call it like I see it my friend,,, from the words of a famous author here at the forum - "DEAL WITH IT!!" I have a right to my opinion, just as you do... I respect yours, respect mine...

Actually I only respond to intelligent banter my friend, your points have been repugnant and trite, is that a good enough answer for you???

kingeoin14 (or whatever the spelling:) Why are you so dense???? That's right it's a part of the game currently... the key word here being "currently," that is exactly why I and many others here are hoping for change, becauce, unbeknownst to you, change is what makes progression, turns the world around it's axis, and makes us all better homosapian's... (don't get excited people, it means humans) which probably explains why you king bla bla whatever your nick is, do not want CHANGE... YOU deal with it little boy... And ShadeX2: ahaahh how pompus of you to think that you speak for everyone here by saying that noone would miss me??? ahahh don't make laugh, there are plenty of people here that enjoy my company and wit, I can only hope the same for you and your little "companion" there....lol

Thanks for the defense, skitee, but I don't think he's 30 years older than me, I am 24.... Thank you! Snyper, follow his advice.... Skitee - You just made the point that I have been trying to make.... currently yes, drugs and stealing funds e.t.c.... e.t.c.... is part of the game, I am not complaining about it, I simply would like to see change happen asap, maybe with v2.0, if you guys really think that what goes on here is decent and just and rightful behavior, then it's probably because you are partaking of these types of things yourselves.... easy to follow, now go look up the word invigilation, because more of it is needed...

We will officially become a clan as soon as we get the needed members that are ranked above 3rd LT, but we welcome all ranks to the clan as long as you are mature and do not cause trouble for yourself or us... There are some basic requirements that need to be met but are not very difficult to achieve, our leader is MrBurks and you can usually find him on our clan chat located here: http://xat.com/5thtankbattalion We are a fun loving clan that is also competitive and we accept anyone that is mature and nice, your age doesn't matter but how you conduct yourself does, we pride ourselves as a non cheating clan, and we prefer to NOT use drugs other than what falls on the ground... Thanks, and gl to all!!!

Maybe boring for you... which somehow leads me to stumble on the statement to you: I bet your of higher rank and love to use those drugs.... So then make a drug battle and you and your drugger friends knock your socks off...

I hate noone, and I do play the game as it is, FLAWED... and just because you are probably a "drugger" yourself along with Tommy60, you guys don't want to see things change, understandable, not acceptable,,, BUT the people that are victim of all of this, i.e. fund stealing, gold box looting, e.t.c... are good paying customers of Tanki Online and deserve to have the right to be able to play and have fun as much as anyone else here, and if you don't know what I'm talking about, then wait until I get my M3 Viking and M3 Thunder in about ohhhh 2 months or so, and lets get in a battle while I drug constantly and your not allowed to and I pound you into very fine dust over and over again,,, how would you like that?? oh, and btw, while I'm doing that, my teammates will be mammoth M3's all powered up and waiting right in the very spot that the gold box falls so you can watch us enjoy what could have/should have, been yours or someone else's on your team... Does that sound like how you would like to spend an afternoon, playing a game that you paid MONEY to upgrade your weapons for, and still they are no good??? Didn't think so... Stop being baby's and being so selfish....

First and foremost, I want to recommend that this post be brought to the attention of the Russian part of our community here as well, the American players are such a small number here compared to the Russian players, and I think they, (the developers,) probably, naturally, would pay a bit more attention to what the Russian community players would have to say v.s. our opinions. So lets get started shall we? :) I think that most in the forum know where I stand on druggers that steal funds from hard working lower rank players, so here are some suggestions for curbing that practice: 1. Make no supply battle passes free, or the game redesigned in v2.0 so that the battles are "extra supply free" and only use what drops on the ground. 2. Make it in v2.0 that players that want to use drugs alot can make battles that can be clearly understood by all that if you enter that battle then you should expect such a thing Also: I want to suggest to the developers that all crystals and gold boxes in Tanki v2.0 be dropped at locations that are completely random, it would serve many purposes: 1. The higher rank players could no longer invade peoples battles at the appropriate time that the 100 crystal boxes are about to fall because they would have no idea where the gold box would drop. 2. It would give anyone regardless of tank size and rank, the equal opportunity to grab a gold box for themselves. I believe that these are the main things/problems with Tanki, I think Tanki is a great game and I love to play, but there are just a couple wrinkles so to speak, that need to be ironed out yet... If these two main topics in question were addressed, I think that Tanki would get even bigger and better... Voice your opinion, what I am suggesting affects all of us and I am not only concerned with myself, but all of the players here regardless of nationality or skill level or rank. Thanks, Snyper22

I don't agree on that. If everybody is drugging the strategy is only a little bit different, because everything is going much faster. You get drugs for nothing so everybody can use drug, but the higher ranks get more drugs so they have an advantage over lower ranks. But I have been in battles where I was a noob (I'm currently Lieutenant Colonel) and nobody was using drugs, because probably everybody has plenty of it and than it is useless to use drug all time. And yes, when I enter a battle with only noobs, I can force the victory by using drugs. That's what can happen if you enter a battle where high ranks are allowed too. But higher ranked players have the risk that noobs are joining their team and taking a lot of experience and making the team weak the same time. So it is all part of the game and sometimes you are happy and sometimes not. Just wanted to make a point about this statement: It doesn't matter if you put a rank limit on the battle, if a noob buys 20,000-30,000 crystals and uses them for supplies, it certainly doesn't matter how much you receive in your daily bonus you are NOT going to be able to beat them... it's just a simple fact...

Ok, thats a fair point :) , but please realize that when everyone uses drugs ALL THE TIME it takes away the strategy of the games. The answer to constant druggers is not more drugs but rather more CHOICE of style of game. In other words, if there is a large number of players that want to play with skill and strategy, rather than dumb brute force drugging where the m3 Titan force will always win, then we should have a FREE way to play no-supplies games. Right now, there is an unfair cost to do that and it keeps everyone who hates druggers away. There are those that like drugging, and those that do not. Both should be given some respect. It is about two completely different style of game but unless Tanki Online wants lose a great many players, there should be a way to play either way without penalty or cost on one over the other. Otherwise the game will devolve (it already has) into nothing more than a boring bunch of players running around pressing 1234 1234 without thinking, or developing any skill. There tons of games we can play, and more than enough dumb blind shooters that have no soul. Tanki Online is and should remain above that kind of low level thinking. I agree with this 100% and this is the point that I have been trying to make for several weeks now... Gosh maybe I started a revolution?? lol it wasn't really my intention, my notion was only to have as fair gameplay as possible, and somehow keep from being bullied by higher rank players with much better weapons, and a plethora of drugs to choose from, to bash our skulls in, and unsportsman like, take the fund that both teams have been working on, (possibly for hours in a fair manner) and then run off happily without remorse or shame... Ice Dragon I commend you for standing up for what you believe to be right and you have my support fully.... :)

And once again Mad Dog I must say I don't know you well, but yet I know you very well at the same time... I respect your opinions more than probably anyone enlisted in these confines, and (to me at least,) once again you have taken logic and so eloquently have voiced it to the masses, I agree with you 100% and completely on every word that you typed... I look forward, If I may, to further discussion with you my friend... Cheers!! and Har!! Tag you're it... LOL

Dingus, ban this guy. All he does is insult druggers and to me, insult my intellingence. If you truly had intelligence, then anything that I say should not insult you, for you would be secure in your own self and your intellingence would not be threatened, therefore, you must see some flaws in yourself that I merely have exposed for you to see and you do not like me for pointing it out... I am sorry for that, BUT I do call things the way that I see them, and I will not be threatened, (Husto,) or be treated the way that you want to treat me simply because you cannot look at yourself and see what/who you are and resent me for showing you, be humble if someone who has lived longer with much more experience than you shows you something then think about it, ponder to yoorself, thinking: hmmm is what he is saying possible??? then and only then will you become a wise, reasonable, and intelligent man,,, this game is only a reflection of our own lives and how we view each other and the world around us, learn while your here, is winning worth causing others pain and grief just because you can??? if you said yes, then that would not be considered an intelligent answer... THINK...

Did you even read messsage before you answer? Drugs and buyers really become real problem... Today i join game just to help someone against druger who told me that he uses drugs becouse thats "Fun". Ok, than i killed him on full drugs dozens time and when i asked "Is it fun, now?" he exit from game. At that time he had the most points (over 3000) and he spent more than 300 on drugs???? Buyer w/o brain who played game just to bully someone. :evil: Very well said Lieutenant_Me... I respect your general game morals, (which you life morals are probably somewhat similar I am guessing,) and I welcome you to my team/game anytime!! See I am not the only that sees this going on and can see the wrong in it... :?

No that's actually not what keeps Tanki going... yes the money helps the developers to make new ideas e.t.c... but what keeps Tanki going is the fact that it is really a great game, all of the elements are here to make for great gameplay, only the problem is that the fun level is NOT the same for everyone because of the way that some of you view this game, which is actually a reflection of how you view life in general, (if the shoe fits wear it) but some of you think that the world owes you everything and you do not have to work for it, sooo you steal it!! BUT because of the way that some of you were raised by your parents, (or NOT) you feel you have the right to do what you want to people without regard for them,,, but let me tell you this from experience: "Every dog has it's day..." :wink:

Dingus, ban this guy. All he does is insult druggers and to me, insult my intellingence. You went to Harvard and this is how you speak english?? anyways, even if you did go to Harvard it doesn't mean your smart at all, it just means that you or your family had enough money to send you there... I have several degrees myself and I have been around much longer than you have, I do not take the game that seriously, I take my time serioulsy, my time is very valuable to me so when I play a game for 3-4 hrs and actually EARN the fund that I get in said battles, it really pisses me off that someone who has no interest at all invested in said game enters the game, and because they have better weapons than us, and more drugs, take the fund away and leave... BTW why would someone want to do such a thing, it shows no character, skill, or anything other than being a bully, no better than the playground bully that does it because he is bigger than you/me, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean that it is right and or proper.... end of story...

And once again here I am... After battling for 4 hrs at Silence, druggers finally decide to end a very close battle and take the whole fund away!! Now some of you say "deal with it," "that's life" e.t.c... and you know that would be fine, but there exist's a huge problem with that: I PAID to upgrade my Thunder and Viking both to M2 and the results are the same - Me Dead, and My Team Loses and no fund for us!! that's what I get for spending my money and upgrading????? wow... There should be separate servers, or rules, or something, governing drugging,,, I am a paying subscriber, (when I can afford to,) and my time is as valuable to me as it is probably most people, so why do I have to spend my 4 hrs playing a game that could have been won by my team and receive the well deserved fund instead of Marshalls and Generals drugging and taking everything?? It is a lame practice, and certainly not acceptable to me and I presume alot of others here... I think that Tanki should answer to me in regards my money and total waste of time... I am getting to the point where I WILL NOT pay anymore, and I want to suggest that if anyone else is frustrated by this topic, that you do not pay anymore either until this matter is resolved!! (It's the only way to get change, if enough people voice their wishes, you cannot be denied...) Tanki COULD be a great game, but it seems at this point that they care a bit too much about money, and not enough about the people thta work hard for it to give them for nothing.... I certainly understand that running, and developing such a huge game with many PAYING subscribers takes time and money, but also please see the fault, that upgrading with crystals/money has isolated some of your "other" paying subscribers from having as much fun as the other players that have been here longer e.t.c... we are penalized for that... :?

LOLOL now that's a good one!! first of all, the generals and mammoths that are drugging don't have to in the first place, they just do it to ensure their win... so if I drug my m2 viking and thunder combo where do you think that leaves me????? (now for those of you that have an I.Q. past 7 I think you know the answer,) and for those of you that do not have an I.Q. past 7 = IT LEAVES ME DEAD........... sheesh.....

LOL obviously skitee is a big time "drugger." Of course anyone that practices what I am condemning here will disagree.... :wink: kingeoin14, Can't always get a no supplies battle,,, and why should I pay for something that should normally be occuring?? What I am suggesting here is that druggers like skitee and YOU, should have to pay 50 crystals to play with your drugs and smash each other to pieces. Twice today, (once again,) the mammoths come and take away a 50 flag game at Fort Knox 3, took the gold box as well. We had a 46-17 lead and they came in and took everything!! I was in second place and was going to get the biggest one game crystal score that I have ever gotten,,, but noooo that didn't happen, (for the second time today.) It is getting unbearably frustrating to play this game anymore, so many jerks come and steal the fund right out from under us...... I am seriously comtemplating quitting Tanki.... it's really sad that this kind of thing is going on and eveyone just seems to think it's ok.... I personally think that it shatters the games integrity...

Just be forwarned, I have been making a HIT list so to speak of all the jerks, (and there are tons of them,) that use power ups and just take the whole game from us/me when I have spent 2 or 3 hrs of my valuable time in the battle wayyy ahead in flags and they just decide to "power up" and take it all.... I WILL have my M3 Viking and M3 Thunder in the near future so you better watch your (bleep) make no mistake about it, because I AM coming for you.... TANKI developers: I think it is one of the worst things about Tanki that everyone has to be victim of supplies, why can't the battles be without supplies mostly and if all those druggers want to play together then they can pay 50 crystals or whatever to play each other and smash each others brains out!!! I try to use cunning, skill, and even psychology to some degree, but all that gets washed down the drain when the whole team decides to drug and smash all of us regardless of our skill.... DEVELOPERS: I beg of you to please change this aspect of Tanki, my son and I are seriously considering quitting because of it, it's very frustrating to play for 2 or 3 hrs or more, and in every battle someone does this and ruins the whole thing, do you not care about the integrity of the game, have you yourselves not played for 2 or 3 hrs or more and gotten smashed by this??? (well then try it sometime,) it's not much fun... I hate it when a match is decided by drugs and not skill, doesn't the pro sports world consider steroids illegal??? same thing here, it is enhancing peoples gameplay when others do not want to do that, instead they want to play with their skill!! Eveyone that agrees with what I am saying please post here and let the developers know how frustrated we all are!!! Thanks.