from the start i agreed that a change in the way battles could be formatted was a good thing. i never had a problem with being able to create battles without the use of constant drugging (ie smart cooldowns). i have previously mentioned that druggers taking over battles and generally 'ruining' games for non druggers was a huge problem. on the flip side, noobs farming crystals in a full drug battle was equally as frustrating. all was required to fix both problems was to create an option for both types of games smart cooldows and fully drugged - as we have now, eventually. its been a massive fail from you guys tho. no matter who is making the decisions. many many players have quit, many now refuse to buy due to not trusting you guys anymore. it should have been done correctly from the start. you totally underestimated the amount of players that play tanki just in drug battles. i for one simply cant stand playing smart cooldowns. lets just hope these players come back to the game now... that said, and what is still a disgrace in my opinion is the fact that drugs are now 30% more expensive now. this will add up over time to incur a greater expense to players. this was something i predicted way back. it just looks like you guys have gone about this with no other intention than to tax the top paying players again - in an underhand way. i understand in all things prices go up. but just making drugs at a higher cost or reducing the cooldown out front in an honest way would have bought you more respect from players! question: as the drug cooldown was lowered to balance smart cooldowns, will you now be putting the 15 seconds back on the drug cooldown in full drug mode? there is no reason not to other than to prove that its for monitory gain. changing this back would go a long long way to rebuilding some trust between devs and players that these latest updates have destroyed in part. i will be watching this one closely! i remember you saying also that adding a 'full drug' option in pro battles wasnt viable due to coding/cost issues. i did laugh at the time. since your comment above states you intended to initiate this option from the start, it also makes your later comment above somewhat dubious. lets hope a similar excuse isnt used when explaining the drug cooldown question above.

what world do you live in? i mentioned that the update was good and that i had one small concern..... the fact still remains that if you are a drugger the average price to play fully drugged battles now has increased by A LOT. before we had fully drugged battles and the drugs lasted 15 seconds longer. tanki removed full drugging then lowered the amount of time drugs last by 15 seconds (a huge amount over the period of an hours drugging). then they give us back full drugging . therefore we have the same product with reduced value at higher cost... i said that tanki think we are dumb because we dont see this. tanki must read your comments and laugh. 'oh this update is great dont worry about the huge increase in cost of drugs, think about the rest of the update'....LMAO. no wonder they carry on making these devious changes when people like you are so blind and naive...

i am happy that we can drug again.... one small concern, though it wont bother me personally: the drugs last 15 seconds less now, making drugging more expensive. i predicted this would happen way back.... just another way to take more money from people for the same product... let people pay the same for less, then remove drugging so people will be angry, then bring back drugging so that people wont care about the increased cost of drugs per min, as they will be happy just to be able to fully drug again. very sneaky and very underhand.. i understand prices go up in everything, its the way things are. but why not just increase the costs and tell us in an honest way without being underhand and devious? does tanki think we are all dumb and cant see what they do? i guess so because rather than being out front and honest they constantly CONSTANTLY invoke sneaky ways to rob consumers of more money for less product....think micro upgrades as another example. pay twice for the SAME product we had previously... yeah another great 'upgrade' :lol:

i never left dude. i stopped paying money or playing. for someone that said we would never be allowed to drugg fully again EVER. seems you were wrong. face it you made 2 failed updates and have now back tracked :lol: and yes a good point. drugs now cost more :) if you look back at my posts when the update was introduced i perdicted this 100% remove drugging, increase cost of drugs by reducing duration, then bring back full drugging. its good to see you not only admit, but find it funny that you have done nothing more than rip people off as a planned update :lol: doesnt matter to me the cost, or many others as we have plenty of money :) keep up the good work captian ;)

so now full drugging is back - as an option in pro battles. this is something we asked for from the start - at least you have listened. or perhaps it was the massive loss in sales that had an impact? either way its good to see that common sense prevailed in the end. well done tanki!

yes! at last the changes we asked for a long time back :) what went wrong hazel? :lol:

yes still around. what others do doesnt bother me. having spent more on this game than you probs earn in a year i will stay around to see if you ever fix the broken machine that YOU have created. i do not play :) jog on :) you must e feeling the heat of these failed updates by now :lol: i hope that you dont get sacked dude.... keep up the good work :D

keep up the good work :lol:

not played since YOU broke the game :) Keep checking in to see how you will break it more. its like a comedy saga now... so you 'tested' the new drop box logics in open test, where everyone has fully upgraded garage and 1000000's of supplies - and then after wonder why the problem of crystal camping wasnt spotted? :lol: you couldnt make it up!

LOL whats new there? keep up the good work captian :lol:

tanki devs. the gift that keeps on giving. :lol:

there have been HUGE sales almost every single day since the update...... dress it up all you like and keep telling yourself its working :lol:

sorry but you dont have live in your own little world dear.

Great posts! I agree with your analysis above, but Im not sure the EULA can legally contain all of the above and claim it to be fully legally binding. just because its an agreement doesnt mean that agreement is in line with European law? Would be very interesting to see what a judge would make of this 'agreement'. There has to be some consumer protection. I also have a feeling that EULA has not been updated from the russian version......

Tanki Online / Company” shall refer to Tanki Online Europe Ltd, a company which is owner of exclusive rights to the Game and registered in Malta with company number C59774, having its registered address situated at 60/2 Melita Street, Valletta VLT1122, Malta. Malta is an EU country. no one is threatening. and the TOS means nothing when statutory rights are the concern...

the players that have quit are sulking. the players that refuse to spend any more $$$ are protesting...its not emotional blackmail from either party. its unhappy consumers. if you had spent perhaps 10,000$ USD on this game perhaps you would be a little annoyed if drugging gameplay was the reason you had invested this cash.... a 'a calm, reasoned proposal' was suggested in the form of allowing a full drug option variation of the game. i fully agree this update is financially motivated. point: tankionline is now a registered EU company, subject to EU laws not russian ones :) i hear some people are looking at legal action due to the drastic nature of the changes in game play. no refund has been offered. wonder what the precedent for a class action is . cant hide behind the EULA ;)

LOL love when people reply and totally misunderstand everything. better not to bother :rolleyes: rebellion, war? we get a small incite into your mind there don't we. very happy that its your mind and not mine :) pretty much universal agreement your update has killed the game dude..... now, as i said: lets see how your bottom line is looking at the end of the next quarter ;)

Will you be posting up the revenue graph for the next quarter dude <_< A lot of people will be playing because of the free drugs and massive amount of sales you conveniently are offering every day. Keep an eye on the stat you care for most mate. The bottom line :lol:

what the locked one? :wacko:

i think there has only ever been one official map maker from the non russian community ;) this is just a little make up club for fun :)

strange the poll thread was running for a week while the like vote was winning. poll options were incorrect. fixed and then HUGE majority vote against = CLOSED thread :lol: Pathetic and 100% predicted. and the guy above is correct, onve those druge are gone. you will all cry again about druggers. only now its the one shots from shaft that will hit hardest..... to be fair you have been a massive noob from the start. sure you are happy :)

i mentioned this would happen before the update...it was obvious. games have become boring. lots of campers now. expect a rebalance soon. $$$$$

look at the servers. they are very quiet. many more so called ' pro' battles. many many players have quit. many more refuse to spend money. this update fails. people prefer no supplies to this. the issue isnt smart cooldown. if freeloaders dont like druggers 'spoiling' their games fair enough. play 'smart' cooldowns. what should have happened was an option to play full drug also, thus allowing all players to play a game version they enjoy. END OF problem. tanki DID NOT CONSULT players before implementing this update... what is really really sad is that many long term players. players that have been here for 4 or 5 years and have a community here have now quit the game. its a disgrace that tanki did not ask for opinion first and took note of the players opinion, allowing the option to continue playing drug games. this forced change of gameplay is nothing short of robbery. if you pay for a product, you expect to keep using that product as long as you keep paying for it. if you pay 20k for a car and the garage removes the engine, you would want your money back. many players here have spent thousands and thousands in this game. many f these players have felt like they have no option but to quit because they consider the smart cooldown update has diminished the gameplay too much. we still ask the question why 3 game variations were not allowed no supplies smart cooldown full drugging

guess he means the people in charge of these kind of things. they have a great track record at getting things right, dont they? btw megalomania is always megalomania, no matter how tiny the subject causing the mania may be and its relevance. just saying ;)