We did, but he a legend? In bad sense maybe.

Probably I will be baned because of telling truth but someone has to... That something is very wrong with this rebalance is obvious since Bruce Lunga (or whoever) delited all critcis posts suported with strong arguments (probably this one will be delited soon too - and that's whay I'll be short). If someone smart enough looks what is going on, see very fast that is all about how to pull more money from the people. People will be forced to spent more money if they want to be competitive. Many high-ranked noobs will pop up and with drugs they will spoip really just every play... This game seems is going to became just ugly scum. That was not something we've bought. They changed product that way it doesn't offer same as previous. If they would be fair, the should refund part in money not on cristals evey $ which was paid to them. If the owners of this game would be in EU or USA they would already be prosecuted.

Impresed. Finaly something really good and fair.

Mister Vladimir Kovtun That might make you angry, but think a bit more about that what I'll write here. Acctually your reaction will tell a lot how right I am. You are sure in power to ban me - You will only prowe I'm right. Why do I write that - because I was informed many complainers were threaten to be banned If they continue to complain. So... Actually I'm pretty sure you just talk about but you do nothing. Not really. I accuse TOL owners not do anything about laggs. I even think that's deliberately. TOL support their people with that. I can understand that they have cheaper stuff, but this go too far. It's impossibly play normal if there are constant lags and connection "hang" every minute. But... Seems Russians never have lagg problems - its unfair advantage. You did nothig situation would improve for a long time and situation seems get worse. 1. Put your "international engins" out of Russia! You will made most with that. When I have lags an problems in 90% that's fault of network you are in. man don't need to be some genious to see that. Onnly need lounch tracerute. Ping response of 500 ms in that network tell everything. 2. There are often some strange coinsidences which happened too often - play was smooth and oposit team (all Russians and like some group who know each other well) was lossing . Suddenly kind of laggs started ("connection closed by server" kind), but only on our side. Oposite team was not disputed with this "lagg problems". Only one team members were "falling out". Of course result changed fast in favour of other team. And that happend several times. 3. My accusation is proved also with that you never made some "Hall of shame" where would you put list of all banned cheater as that for sabotage saboteur get only a day bann (even for long mouth you get a week) - that's nothing for benefit of stolen funds that way. For your info - all saboteurs I've met were Russian (cyriliyc letters and language...) Again - on forum were complaits there's no answer from help@tankionline.com - then someone told that he get an answer in 1/2 of hour and added - "You just need to write in Russian" :o I don't have anything agains Russia or Russians (i've met some of them who are incredible good and honorable people)... but how I see thigs there's impression players are divided in Russian players and other (2nd class) players. Yea? What kind of? Will you degrade shaft again and make rice even more powerful? Sorry my cynicsm, but every change was made was worse. Since last upgrade rico is most poverful and usefull weapon can't even kill him with shaft from close because you made those balls so big and shiny. You screwed thihgs with those 15k already.I can't wait to see what you will screw again. But if you do something right I promise I wiil apologize to you public. And BTW - I think cheats are in again, just unable to prove it because are smart. Other day I played with my "lower account" and some players were resistant on freez efect (slowing down) they didnt stuck but simply turn like nothing happed. Also some non-druged thunde killed full health M3 Hornet in just 2 shots and nondrugged rail with only one - simply calculation tell us there's something wrong. Hornet M3 = 100 HP Thunder M3 = 46 HP damage => 2 x 46 = 92 < 100 Rail M3 = 85 HP damage < 100 Is this bug or cheat? Now you will probably say : "Prove it." You right. I can't. There's too many things impossible to prove. We - usual players don't have tols for discower all those things. I can only say I'm not some adolescent teenager. What joy I would have to writing untruth? I've already lost a big part of joy even to play TOL because of reasons I've written above. I think I'm not the only one. Best regards yonsneg

Since they've "upgreded" to this new (CRAP )grafic, evetrything gone "down". Laggs are terible and everiwhere... They obviously don't care about players oppinion (mayority was very against). I can't even find that topic anymore (Was removed because it was revolt against those stupid changes?) Seems they are working on system sometimes something since tere are sometimes huge problems - so huge that people can't play) ... Don't bother - by my experiances they don't care if you are not a Russian.

So try you to write something new and interesting or shut up!

GREAT! NOW PUT EVERYTHING BACK AS IT WAS!!! MAJORITY WANT OLD TANKI! (You see the vote)

I vote YES. Yes, those bilboards are disturbing, but is their monney. Their earn. They should keep bilboards, but should somehow decrease drugging. Drugs spoiled games and every ashole can be boss if drugged. People are drugged 24/7 and they can't refund crystals spended by drugs - what's other point? Feeling somebody coz you own them completely because whole team are drugged and ia superpowered by drugs? It's sick and it's disgustuing.

Don't even bother, if you don't have rico or at least freez - this was made mainly in benefit for freez. Must be lots of rico lover in development crew, since last upgrade favorize rico over all. Buying shaft ater thic crap they made is nonsense. WITH THIS UPGRADE RICO BECAME ULTIMATE WEAPON... and long after that - nothing. @developers and game owners - GIVE US BACK OLDER VERSION. MAJORITI DOESN'T LIKE THIS NEW CRAP YOU'VE GIVEN US. THIS GAME IS GREAT EXAMPLE HOW SOMEONE CAN RUIN GOOD GAME!

CABLEl, you've forgotten on golden cukoo clock! :lol: :twisted: :mrgreen: EDIT: Beter they put back as it was and don't repeat the mess they did. First too narrow rank belt... now this... holy crap! Stop!

I don't like what you did, especially with tanks... but also most turrets look like made for girls who play with Barbies. :thumbdown: And hulls - before they were like real tanks - now looks like space shutels for tanki pimps. :x It's awfull. Just put rockets in hulls asses to make complete sh...

Good idea but too high trashhold. 3 complaints should be enough to pay mods attention. Try also with some tool to monitor cheater when complaints come or do some special "switch" like "/ cheat" or somethink like that. Would be better. Would be also good if you do "Hall of shame" wer you need to put all banned cheater too be seen coment what kind of ban and duration of it they are punished with.

Don't start again with this. So and so there's too many stupid isida players who run by not healing you :x Tell me one smart reason, why would someone heal you and take a risk being killed for only your benefit? There's already too much selfishness and gold-digging in (every) play. There's flood of shafts now (mostly M0/1 and some M2 ; M3 is still rarety) and seems every WO4/5 has his shaft and thing he is "the boss" with it. And those guys are pushing everywhere some experianced shaft take place. They are rude - they pushing you, moving and disturbing until you are fed up and you lieve that spot. :x Other smatries (shafts) think they are "big flag capturer" and run drugged 24/7 around trying to steall a flag :? I agrre for grabbing some oportunity. I try steal sometimes too. But what they do is nonsense. Shaft is not weapon for flag capturing! And I can tell you - there's no bigger joy for (smart and good) shaft player haveng 2 or even 3 isidas around healing you. Reason - When opponents notice you are good, they rush on you and they hunt you. After few minutes of plying I'm usually attacked by 2 or 3 opponents at least (usually more). If there's plenty isidas around healling me constantly (and in that case I really need 3 of them) I manage to kill all atackers. Isidas usually die. NOW TELL ME IS IT FAIR TO ISIDAS DON'T GET WHAT THEY DESERVE! And for the record - I very rarely play isida this days becuse I'm improving shaft my skills and (try to) enjoying in playing shaft (what becomes problem beacuse of flood I've mentioned before. About suggestion - I don't like it, because all gold diggers will atack good players now and I thik that's unfair. If there should be some suggestion which is fair - xp should be bonded on damage you made with your hit and not on kills. Beacuse of that you have now plenty of people who wait and hit only on vounded targets. So they get credit for kill (and some isida get killed and get "credit" for "being destroyd"... they actually somehow stealing from others. Shafts and rails have here biggest advantage. And isidas pull the shortes here. So shut up aginst isidas! Beside of that isida is only weapon who can't hide and sit on spot and collect points with constant killing. (Freez has much more oporunities sice can kill several targets at once and none of them can even move.) And I don't have problems with Isidas since ONLY really good and hardworking isidas are those who can "steal" me first place in a game. More problem I have with some 24/7 drugged freezers or other drzuggies (especially on opponents side :P) BTW - if you are really good with your weapon - you will take firstt place with every weapon if you have M3 stuff. If you can be first with M2 stuff - guys who play in same game are incompetent or they all have M2 stuff too. IT'S NOT THE WEAPON - IT'S THE GUY WHO PLAY! So - if you wan't fair - Let be calculation result of damage points multiplied by rank factor and other stuff what ever it is, not result of number of kills.

It's ok saying opinion. Nobody think you are arrogant. But it seems you really have lack of experiences. When I've read your post at first I thought it was joke. Shaft is great weapon but with huge limitations. BTW - I just wonder did you ever play shaft? It's my favorite weapon. Even though it's only M2, I killed a lot with it. Believe me. So I know what angle is in scope mode . If shafts will be exposed they will be killed. Shaft can dominate when is good covered with isida (what is my other weapon) and perhaps even some additional weapon covering his back or side. There are few maps where 2 shafts can cover each other quite well, but I think tribute is not one of them. 1) Rarely have even two. 2) Thats correct. Actually - prevent own flag and capture opponents flag. Keep in mind. Shaft is not flag stealing weapon (even though some people do that, but they always use drugs). It is slow and hornet is not proper hull for shaft.In open mode shaft is extremely weak weapon (should be more powerful). Non-drugged has no chance. 3) Thunder - splash effect, rico - bouncig. Both can kill shaft without need to come in his sight. I am not trying to sound cocky or arrogant too. I'm just extremely sure in what I've written.

:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: Well, you are really a fiasco, dude. Read again what you have written. And think about. BTW - please answer on this 3 question. 1) Team with 8 M3 shafts...? 2) Can you answer what is a goal at "flag capturing"? 3) Are you aware of side effect of thunder and rico? Let's took the case you have given us, even though almost all agree there would put one shaft (not two) and one rico or thunder more. (But I would have additional isida in crew so...) Yes - with 6 shaft you can cover all 3 approaches to flag - theoretically. But ... (we'll return to this later) How you will capture flag with shaft? Shaft in attack hasn't any chance (especially non-drugged) against frezz and isida which will accept you at the their flag... if any shaft will even reach that flag, what is not highly possible. Beside of that - you have only two. Remember? Other 6 cover flag. Mind - that 6 shafts must be hidden enough deep or they will be killed from blind angle. So... Simple truth is, that "balanced" opponent will own all territory but the place with your flag. So you can't win! Best result you can get is draw. BUT YOU WON'T! You will lose. As soon as 2 thunders, 1 freez and 1 rico will assemble below your sight angle and do mass-attack on one approach (2 shafts) - your flag will be stolen.

One such things was narrowing ranges what make huge problems even for playing clan wars. BTW - is not such problem if they give something to people than if they take them away something they have win by fighting. Otherwise (if I don't consider drugs) game and weapon are well balanced. There's no smart reason to change anything. What is necessary to change are rules about sabotaging - a day ban is far not enough. It's a joke! Should be at least a week for non-obvious and for an obvious - a month for first, and then doubled for any further. Game owners should consider that saboteurs can drastically change game result and enable possibility that their friends on other side take big fund of crystals (some games have fund over 1000 crystals). That has happen lot of times.

Range of rico is 80 m. I guess then is "out". Otherwise - I don't see a sense using vikings for large maps and hornet for small? On opposite. I think if map is large, you need speed to come across. Of course you need search for hidings and change direction not to be hit. Beside of that - is much easier to kill viking than hornet, especially N2O drugged. Shafts and ricos are too slow for following drugged hornet. In that case thunder with splash effect is better. But viking is simply not fast enough. On other side if distance to complete cover or flag is small enough, then viking can reach his point before opponents defrost. Am I wrong? If I take Reiki12345 and matlep for instance (both are real pros with their freez&hornet and freez&viking combo) - they just proved that over and over again.

Reaction time a magnitude below average -- you are a medical wonder :P http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/stats.php :lol: :lol: :lol: It's an expression dude :lol: Actually goes for about 3-4 frames. EDIT - eye frames (to not be misunderstood since some here are very particular as I noticed :? ) If you play shaft you know, what I wanted to tell. On Kungur map you really don't have much time to react. Sometimes happen to shoot own player if he comes too fast by. But still think it is better to turn own team mate on back than allow opponent steal the flag. @kool - yes you right. You can react faster and "eye frames" (I hope this is good expression) remain "problem". If you want explore you will found out nerve signal has speed somewhere around 500 km/h what's actually not so fast but enough for body. Eye are (actually brain are) capable to separate 20 frames per second. After that mowing for our brain is continuous. That's why TV used to have 25 pict/sec. Today with even "100 Hz" TV sets this is history.

You right. But has nothing to do with pro. When you are in scope-mode... I didn't have in mind playing with shaft. My shaft is M2, it can't kill M3 Viking or higher with one shot and therefore it's quite useless in majority of battles available for me. Let me repeat that, if shaft can't kill with one shot it's almost useless. IMHO. Stress on almost. I also almost agree. Still can kill "hamsters" who use mainly hornets. There are also dictators... viking M3 is hard nut, but it is "eatable" :P Just need some skills for it. Problems are paintings and drugs... or combination of both... and mammy M3 of course. This beast with protecting color and drugs... it's really annoying. That's really combination when you can say - "That's really not fair". So when someone complains - complain about that, not shafts power.

He might be good at it and you aren't good enough for him... :roll: I consider me quite good, but certainly I met (or know) a dozen of people who can kill me without problem, and also met (or know) twice more of them, who can't touch me.

is shaft even fun to play? For me - YES! It's fun having skills to hit opponents barrel and thinking how does he wondering what happen to him when he evaporates :P :D It's fun to hit tank (especially drugged with N2O) flying through the air. If he doesn't evaporate, he will surely fall on his back. And there's plenty such stuff for fun. Beside that - playing shaft is not only waiting. You have to include your thinking and imagination, to be good. You need to have good reflexes and react in 1/100 of second - sometime you only have so "much" time to hit a target, or target will steal your flag. Usually shaft is last and ultimate defense of flag. But it's truth - Shaft need tons of patient too. But that's matter of personality character. Shaft is not for spoiled kids who need to be No1 (same isida). Shaft is one of two weapons in this game made to serve. Often, when all other irresponsible run around, shaft must patiently lurk on his prey.

Yes - in 1vs1 maybe not. I say everything depends of players' skills. Some are really really god. And usually higher ranks who play rail are more skilled as higher ranks playing thunder. Thunder allow player to be lazy, rail doesn't. But we don't talk about 1vs1. We talk about clan war team. Do we know what word TEAM means? In some maps rail can be really annoying weapon. Problem is treasonable trace and trigger delay. That's why I haven't gave rail in my "dream team". Actually on contrary what The_Killah has written, I guess most of us would use same "crew" on most of maps. Point is in diversity of weapons and complementarity of them - to improve their pros and annihilate their disadvantages. But what The_Killah has written I find... well, I don't want insult anyone. I guess he didn't meet good shaft. Yes, I've been killed by rail lot of times, but never so I would saw shooter or I have more important job - killing a hamster. Lot of times I got hit by two rails in same time, eve though there are more vulnerable targets near me, what give me thinking why one M2 shaft is so desirable target :P It's truth some rails are really masters of hiding-hitting, but such players usually hit mi only once. Second time they even don't show their shiny barrel before they evaporate. @ skitee great job skit. It's OK you published more views and I agree that's important to wider angle of view. Different people - different thoughts.

^True. Not true, nuclearbom. Drugs are way to cheap!Drugs spoil the game. :-( I read all the time complaints against isidas and shafts like "...rugged isida... drugged shaft..." what is childish. No one is aware on word "drugged". All drugged weapon make a mess and dissbalance a game. So force other to use drugs if they don't want to be defeated. Than you can see incompetent losers using drugs 24/7 and think they are good. They think they are the boss. Truth is - without drugs - they are nothing... and so I think about whining creator of this topic and all who think same as he does. BTW - I'm not sure, some of those 24/7 drug-users aren't cheater, because they never earn as much crystals as they spent on drugs. So there's no sense calculation. On contrary some (like you, if I've read right) have plenty of that stuff - because they have self-confidence and skills.

Should be even more expensive! Some are drugged all the time during the game. What sense does it have?