Of course we don't. We don't have control over what other species eat. But we do have control over ourselves and we can try and convince other humans. Like I said before, it comes down to pleasure, laziness, being uneducated or simply being selfish and not caring for the other species who we share this planet with. Just because other species do things, doesn't mean we should. Those species that hunt animals, usually do it because they need to do it to survive.

... umm .. I don't even know how to reply to that...

I only eat organic vegetables

Ummm, what?

So you expect me to eat no food with chemicals in it?

How is eating meat a mistake? I'm saving animals and I'm perfectly healthy. How could it possibly be a mistake?

Exactly my point, this is why I said, that argument is irrelevant. (Nor does being vegetarian make you skinny) Trying to save me from making a big mistake huh? And what mistake is that?

That proves nothing, it is possible to be healthy and fit as a vegetarian. Like I already showed you. The fact that most people who eat meat that I have met, are over weight doesn't prove anything either. So don't bother bringing such an argument up. Are you joking? Have you learned nothing from this thread? I am living proof that you do not need to eat meat. I have never eaten meat and I'm still here, so obviously your body does NOT need meat.

You don't find them convincing? But it's a fact that you can get protein without eating meat. "But seriously, meat contains some important nutrients which vegetation does not contain, so for having a normally functioning organism you sometimes have to eat meat." There are millions of vegetarians that are "normally functioning" and are healthy and fit.

I don't see how this is turning into a verbal war at all. It seems like a fairly intellectual debate. You might find smoking a bigger problem but I do not. When people smoke, they're killing themselves. When we eat meat, we're killing innocent animals.

You're saying that there are better reasons to eat rocks? Emm, what?

Ahha did you not read my replies? Especially about the health issues.

How and what has made you decide to eat more meat?

1. Have you been inside slaughter houses, do you know what they're like? There are many videos that show animals being abused in slaughter houses but very few if any at all that show them being treated well. I have proof, you have none (that you've shown). TheVeganAtheist is fairy unbiased shown from his other videos - for example, his "stupid vegan comments" videos. There are so many videos that show animal cruelity, it must be done on quite a large scale 2. Ok (: 3.I'm saying that usually the reason that people aren't vegetarian is because they find eating meat very pleasurable or too lazy to find an alternative.(when shopping or making home-made vegetarian alternatives) But I do admit that it often comes down to people being uneducated or them just not caring about other species

1.Check the post above yours 2. All vegans are vegetarians, I called myself a vegetarian because this topic is about vegetarianism and many might not know what a vegan is. 3. We can have just as much of a healthy life style being vegetarian as we can eating meat. We shouldn't put the animals through that suffering if it's not necessary, it all comes down to pleasure and laziness.

1. I was talking about when the animals are actually slaughtered and how it is done. Stress level makes the actual meat taste worse or better? Do you have proof of this? Just as bad as the reasons for halal meat. Look up a video of a slaughter house and tell me that the animals aren't extremely stressed and absolutely terrified. 2.I completely agree with that. That's why I'm vegan 3. Just because our bodies might be made to consume meat, doesn't mean we must have it to survive. We don't need to eat me, so why put the animals through such suffering.

What's wrong with only eating non-meat foods?

Ok (:

If you think it's better for you health to be an omnivore than a herbivore then try reading this.

Ahha, don't you realise that there are chemicals in almost all processed meat? The chemicals in those burgers really are not that bad and are going to do very little, if any harm.

Probably more healthy than typical McDonalds' burgers.

There clearly is a point to being vegetarian. By being a vegetarian, you are partly stopping the torture and death to animals. Just because they don't express themselves with words, doesn't mean they don't feel pain and have emotions. With that attitude, why don't we kill human infants and those with such a disability that they can't talk or even those who haven't learned a language. They will yelp when they feel pain, just like other animals. As for you thinking that animals are just decorations of Earth... I don't really know how to reply to that. They are clearly not just decorations, we share this planet with other species, we should show respect. Not just take advantage of the fact that we are more evolved. Bacteria do not feel pain, nor do they have emotions. Fish eat bacteria because that is what they must do to survive - I see nothing wrong with that. Most of the animals we eat are bred for the sole purpose of human consumption. As humans, we do not need to eat meat to survive. I understand that in certain places of the world, there is no alternative. We do what we must to survive and I see nothing wrong with that. I have seen no proof that omnivores live longer than herbivores, in fact, it's most likely to be the other way around as having lots of meat is very unhealthy. Instead of calling us "cry babies", maybe you should think of vegetarians as more civilised and that we actually care for and respect other species who we share this planet with. Unlike those who put billions of animals through extreme pain and eventual death, just for their own pleasure.

I agree with most of that, but there is no point using the example where everyone just suddenly turns vegetarian - it wouldn't happen like that. Like I said earlier, if everyone gradually turned vegetarian over a period of 10-20 years, then we would adapt. I think it's fine for people to eat meat, if there is no alternative and they need it to survive.

Oh ok

Over population? of.. humans? I don't understand if you're with me or against me or exactly what your point is.