i think Savana is best for railgun.

i agree, sandbox has a lot of fire, freeze, smoky, most likely zeus make it win, of course, i sometimes see isida, rico, rail, thunder combination as well in sandbox. so hard to say, but on island map, freeze, twin and isida on mamothom are most common ones. small maps still have a difference for different cases

I bought winter when I was at your rank, now I never use that paint in Generalismo battles, as I have needle paint with mu-ed shaft protection of 43%, also smoky 49%, rico 31%. if I could choose again, * long range light hull, choosing savana at your rank * isida on light hull, choosing urban if you have no plan to get Rock paint later, which is basically a better version of urban * if you are shalft user, winter is still a good option but shafts are hard to see these days, most are thunder and railgun, same rank paint option are Savana and Rustle, these 2 paints are as good as in Generalismo battles with some micro upgrades. * if you really like twins protection or shaft protection, save for Jade and Rock at later rank, since that will make your winter, urban outdated and crystal wasted.

hard close battle, with smart cool down, u never worry about over drugging in drug war. :D DP or DA is a question.

if in silence enemy base, zeus is better if in kurgur enemy base, clay will help u escape from rail and thunders that keeping a distance. map blocks coverage matters, and of course, the enemy base defenders, but since the smart cool down, all thunder rail long range weapon has a far chance using double power than short range weapons. the threat from long range weapons increased a lot

heavy tank, zues is better. fast tank, clay is better defender tank with isida near by, clay is better defender tank alone in base with lots of walls (like silence), zues is better defender tank alone in base with open area (like kurgur), clay is better long range attacker, clay better short range attacker, clay better based on my experiences in lots of battles.

fully mu-ed "M4" railgun and "M4" hornet and fully mu-ed Needle, Inferno paint rest m0

i think there should be additional score award for killing enemy near the base. i use rail hornet for CTF, I will the shaft teammate can help clear the freeze at enemy base , or high damage like thunder rail fire isida target that defending enemy base. so the flag catcher can deal with only one freeze with double power and run away from enemy base without much trouble. =-------------------------------- i normally pass the flag i got to base defender who put lots of mines on our base, normally freeze or twins on mammoth players, or base healers. shaft normally busy aiming the target, so not much chance to pass flag to them, ---------------------------------- it also depends on personal goal, if you goal is to have fun, then just focus on killing enemy only. if your goal is to rank up and xp, then just focus on killing if your goal is to get crystal, then dont use shaft in CTF or just play TDM

congrats, you both got name changed??? Cool

i always go RU server 5-6 or RU server 26-27, they are less lag than other RU server, and I can't find much generalismo rank battle in english servers other than EN 1-2.

smoky is key to destroy mass amount of prodigi, picasso, clay paint users, one you see those top paint, you will wish your team has a smoky.

i mean modification like M1, M2, M3, and not all paints can be mu-ed to multiple 50% protection, there is a limit of mu for each paint. Savana with mu can have 50% smoky and 36% railgun protection, needle has 50% smoky, 50% shaft, 40% rico, by in practise, they are targeted for different user, savana for small map and defender, while needle for large map and attacker. so they are not like relationship of rustle and emerald, which main target is thunder. ----------------------------------- and I agree, the guide line is not 100% strict seperation, by as a guide for choosing the paint, different users have different enemy in mind, the health of hull also determine the direction of choosing a high protection paint or multiple protection paint. long range attackers main care less about twins, fire and freeze, but more care to thunder smoky short range slow attackers may care more about long range protection, short range faster attachers may care more about both long range and short range. but the main guide is about get which top paint as main goal.

thanks, I made mistake before as well, I spent 70k for inferno, and mu-ed around 40k for 46% freeze and 41% fire protection, using on my hornet m3. I wish I could bought zues at start, if add back the crystal i spent, i could get zues with 50% fire, 41% freeze and 25% smoky. much better than 15% twins from inferno

[Guide] Avoid buying 'Duplicate' High Rank Paint (fully-mued version) After a lot of study and checking in battles, there are some definite guide on how to avoid paints with almost duplicate protections, since paint is not upgradable, it is advisable not to buy expensive paint at too early rank, those 200k+ crystal paints need more consideration even from Major rank, For example, even now you are able to buy rustle paint, and emerald paint is too far from u, it is advisable to think wise before u get rustle, since later u found u need to buy emerald, the rustle get mostly not much use to u after u got emerald. Another interesting discussion about [topic=http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=212283]Fun Fact About JADE and NEEDLE ================================================== Let us view paints from Top to Bottom instead what you can buy now. It is important to plan to Generalismo rank even at Major rank for paints, because once you reached Generalismo and micro-upgrade few steps of paint parameters, a lot of them are look the same, like Jade and Needle as link in above. * The more expensive, The more protection, The more option to Get triple 50% protection, * Micro upgrade is more useful focusing on 1 paint to 50% instead spreading mu on several paints max-ed at 30-40% * at End of Generalismo, it is all about top 9 paints with full microupgrade, so dont waste crystal on mu middle rank paints. * micro upgrade cheap 1 protection paint (like tundra) to 40%+ is more economic than middle rank paints * if you already sure about your main combo and main protection, it good to save for the best paint from start, and save the micro upgrade crystal for the ultimate paint goal * based on statistics and mu sale (50% no speed up.), it is averagely 100k crystal cost to micro upgrade and get one of protections to 50% (as long as paint allows, and that is the paint u should save for), so buy prodigi at 100k discount at early rank is about the same to buy Clay at 120k and add 100k for 50% rail protection mu. ================================================== List of Top Paint Relation and Overlap, and Best Triple Protection choice for those Aiming for One paint last forever New version, 64 paints included since Vulcan update +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | range-64p | Better version | Cheaper version | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | close -A | lumberjack (isid-45, frz-45,fir-45,vul-15) | inferno (frz-50, fir-50, tw-23) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | loam (fir-50, frz-16, ric-thd-16) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | python (frz-48, shf-21) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | jagular (frz-35, fir-15, thd-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | alien (isid-36, frz-8, thd-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | storm (fir-30, frz-9, hm-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | mary (frz-21, tw-8, sm-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | safari (isid-30) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | lava (frz-23), marine (fir-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | close -B | taiga (isid-45, fir-30, ric-30, tw-23) | irbis (isid-50, frz-37, ric-30) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | spark (fir-23, ric-50, tw-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | electra (isid-45, tw-15, smk-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | swash (isid-12, fir-23, tw-15,smk-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | in love(isid-15, frz-23, ric-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Cls-Med 1 | rock (tw-50, isid-50, frz-38,hm-15) | urban (tw-50, isid-37) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Cls-Med 2 | zues (smk-50, frz-50, fir-50) | | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Cls-Med 3 | mars (hm-50, fir-41, isid-27) | atom (hm-50, fir-26, tw-frz-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | sakura (hm-30, isid-30, vul-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | chainmail (hm-27, isid-15, rail-9) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Cls-Med 4 | rustle (thd-48, frz-30, isid-15) | cedar (thd-48, isid-8, smk-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Cls-Med 5 | hive (vul-50, ric-38, frz-30) | vortex (vul-23, ric-23, thd-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | hohloma (smk-33, ric-30, frz-30) | | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | medium -A | africa (hm-30, vul-45, tw-38, thd-38) | cherry (tw-45, thd-38, vul-30) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | emerald (tw-48, thd-50, rail-19) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | roger (tw-45, hm-30, fir-18) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | magma (hm-30) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | invader (vul-27) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | metalic (thd-18), sawmp (tw-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | medium -B | nano (hm-45, ric-42, smk-30, fir-15) | pixel (hm-45, smk-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | desert (hm-15, ric-42, smk-8, tw-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Med-Dist 1 | raccoon (hm-45, vul-38, rail-30, isid-27) | rihno (hm-45, vul-45, fir-9) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | fracture (vul-18, rail-30, smk-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | guerrila (hm-12, vul-38, shf-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Med-Dist 2 | tiger (hm-50, smk-50, rail-28) | | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Med-Dist 3 | savana (smk-50, rail-36, ric-27) | | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Med-Dist 4 | clay (thd-50, rail-50, rico-50) | prodigi (thd-43, rail-50, shf-29) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | digital (smk-21, rail-50, shf-16) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | tundra (smk-15, rail-45) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | dragon (ric-33) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | forest (rail-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | distant -A | graffti (shf-50, vul-50, tw-50) | blacksmith(shf-30,vul-38,rail-26) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | distant -B | picaso (shf-45, rail-38, thd-30, frz-30) | sandstone (shf-23, rail-30, thd-21) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | distant -C | needle (shf-50, smk-50, ric-40) | carbon (shf-8, smk-30,tw-8) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | flora (smk-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | distant -D | jade (shf-50, smk-50, thd-23, hm-23) | winter (shf-50, thd-31, rail-9) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | corrosion (shf-23, thd-23, rail-15) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | dirty (shf-39, rail-12) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | | | lead (shf-27) | +------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ Old Version ================================================== Note: 1 protection 50% paint or paint under Major is not for this discussion, since on Generalismo rank battle, has only 1 protection is not easy to survive, and having at least 2 heavy protection is always better than 1. they are good for early ranks, but after Major rank, it starts to get important to save early and dont waste crystal (especially for non-buyers like me :P ), since you also saving for your 1st set of M3s. Like and free to comment. ================================================== References: Wiki: http://en.tankiwiki.com/Paints Paint Discussion: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177212

are you the ones who said leaving tanki after that update, you are still around. and nice to see u again. :lol:

got 10k vk crystal and 3k daily bonus,

drug lords complains, :D by the way, i ran out of first aid.

i signed with a phone, as facebook acc still asking me for a phone by the way, i got 10k again for vk, :D

congrats, the first place can surely get some cool upgrades.

i have 600+ DRUG each due to this update, i think it is cool, my railgun rule the game now, everyone activate double power, and they died against me 1 to 1

@wild004 as other name with number are registered

check this site for 2012 garage spec http://playtanki.com/stuff/tanki_online/turrets/2

The higher the rank, the faster you get xp points, the rank time for each rank are roughly the same if not wrong I have 1,700,000 points/xp by now as i posted. and there used to be a option to buy xp/points with crystal, like 1 blue crystal box for 1 kill. and I bought score multiply pass every month at discount after i got m2 combo

in 2012, tanki is still quite ok with low ranks, as I have m3 rail and hornet at around that rank, (as it is before rebalance) now it is a bit tough for low ranks. check this 2012 railgun hornet spec.

smart cooldown is good, or u will see those isida on 3 drugs dominating the battle again, and you got no chance to win and those unstopped mamthon freeze will never come back. B) smart cooldown saved my life in tanki at that rank. same for low ranks