Regardless of enemy strength my point is its a 65 DL... when was the last time anybody here got that? Exactly.

Negative ghost rider, I didn't push 1 2 3 or 4 one time the entire match. I did pickup a couple healths on the ground and had a m1 isida heal me a few times but thats it.

Smoky good, smoky reeaallll good:

I'm not buying anything with my crystals until this update comes, I'm not going to buy something only to have it nerfed a week later. Why can't you tell us what will change so we can buy accordingly?

Anybody know what this update will include?

This is BS, don't try to put a positive spin here, the packages all went up a lot for us in the USA

So what this video showing? How good you are at holding space bar and pressing 1,2,3,4?

Yeah but cmon, I've fought agains smoky m3s using my m2 and its night and day. Those guys get way more criticals, theres no way its only 1 percent more I still don't believe the stats are right for some of the weapons. Even with my m2 its night and day the amount of criticals vs the m1 (which was terrible).

I give the flag back when someone dies usually ONLY if it was an easy pick up for me, like if they almost had the flag back to base and I did nothing but pick it up and drive a little bit of the way. But if they barely got it out of the base and died, then I had to pick it up and kill 4 guys and or use drugs to get the flag back to our base, then I feel I did most of the work and I cap it since they will still get some of the points anyways.

Check some of my and husto's posts with Thunder m3 vs high ranks... its very effective. At your rank, it will help you get to the highest ranks probably the fastest of any weapon. I juust got a 35 D/L a few days ago using Thunder m3 vs ranks similiar to mine. Half their team was using Twins m2 and I owned them.

Thanks, one of my favorite combos

Thunder DOES NOT suck, this was a 10 minute game. Other team also had two twins m2's that left at about three flags:

thank you splitter, that was my point as well

All the guns are good if you know how to use them. I guess you just don't know how to use it. Do I think it's the strongest M3? Absolutely not, that would be smoky, twins and firebird. But Thunder m3 doesn't suck, especially now that people are getting more and more paints without thunder protection. If Thunder sucks so bad then how come there is way more emerald rustle, and cedar paints than any other paints?

And your point? Your saying you suck with it, I'm saying I own with it.... Like I said, if you suck with it as you said, then I guess you'll be in aw when you see me at the top of scorers with a 5+ D/L and 100 kills.

Hahah, well I hope to see you on the battlefield one day then. I'm sure you'll be in awe of my D/L while using Thunder.

I have to say this topic is horrible. What is the point of having an entire section dedicated to gameplay, where you can discuss turrets and hull and in fact there are even stickies for each turret and hull, when everybody has to use this one thread to talk about the different things they should buy.... makes ZERO sense to me. Isn't this entire section of the forum for people to talk about turrets and hulls? Why can't we make a X vs X type of topic if that is our specific need? I don't want to dig through a 30 page thread to find the area that somebody already discussed the same exact topic I have... I'm sorry but this a bad idea and makes zero sense. You also get much less answer asking in this thread because once your question moves to next page nobody reads it anymore and is already answering the next persons questions, plus you can't make polls about what weapons are better, etc. Takes away the entire point of having a section dedicated to this type of discussion.

As u know I have Savannah, its pretty good but mostly for my bigger hulls. Its freaking awesome with mammoth or viking, on my new hornet m3, ehhh. You still will die from two rail m2 shots almost every time, so its only good on smaller hulls if there are a bunch of smokys, which does happen sometimes and when it does you will be very glad you have it. I can take two crits in a row and still live. I personally always buy paints against the weapons that annoy me the most. Problem with getting urban is with your hornet, you'll still get knocked around it will just take them longer to kill you. I'd recommend Irbis or Savannah, I'm eyeing Irbis for myself but I think I may just go ahead and get inferno instead if I can rank by sale day (which I think I can do). P.S. I think I'm about to get isida m3 during sale :)

Twins and Smoky, ahh my two favorite weapons :). The knock back is only bad for small tanks, like hornets (eh hemm) and wasps. Player2 since u never use anything other than hornet, I guess u wouldn't know. I've been using hornet much more lately and yes, twins knockback is very irritating for small tanks... I never even noticed it before using hornet more now. (even hunter m2 drives pretty much right through the twins knockback). Conclusion: Twins eats small tanks alive. Freeze: NOW YOU HAVE A POINT HERE. The freeze effect lasts so long a guy can freeze me, I kill him... he spawns again then comes and kills me while I'm still frozen with his flag. THAT is RIDICULOUS. It shouldn't last that long, it needs to be less. All freezes do is slow down gameplay and stop flags from getting capped. I like that there is a freeze since it is pretty much the only way to stop druggers from taking your flag at will, but it really needs to unfreeze sooner.

Thunder M3 is awesome. I use it a lot and am almost always among the highest scoring players in a battle and with Thunder I almost always get the highest d/l. I also have the other higher powered weapons u mention in smoky m2 and twins m2 and thunder m3 stacks up very well vs those. I usually change what gun I use a lot so I don't get bored, but sometimes I break out the thunder and get like 10 kills before dying once. Thunder M3 is epic to drug with too. Imagine killing every tank hunter m2 and smaller with one shot, and every tank except mammoth with two shots. I especially like when there is a patch of hornet m2s and I kill three of them with one shot when drugging... try doing that with any other weapon. I hope people keep saying thunder is bad, that will mean less paints against it.. and the less of those paints around the even stronger thunder will get.

I have both (since last 50% paint sale :)), both are awesome. I tend to use savanna on larger maps and emerald on medium maps and for really small maps Im finding that I still use Rustle since it has the freeze and isida protection.

maybe at your rank, i can make 5000 crys in a few hours

You do realize the 5000 lets you in NS battles for a full month, right?

I want the sale too so I can get it but then imagine how many annoying freezes there will be everywhere! I guess that's Murphy's law at work.

Anybody have freeze m3? How is it? I'm considering but IDK, seems like the much better option is Firebird.