A drug costs 50 crystals, just one drug while a health box costs 150 crystals.For the prize fund to be 500 crystals you would roughly have to play for 20 mintues, since 2-5 crystals are earnt for every kill depending on what rank you are, playing with no drugs. Lets calculate this scenario, pro battle pass where you can use all drugs at a time, you play arena with one opponent, you and your opponent are the same rank and have the same turret and tank so each kill earns the same amount of crystals. Now playing with drugs , you can accumalate more kills and if succesful take more of the prize fund, but using one double power, (dp) one double armor (da) and of course one speed (s) would already cost you 150 crystals if you were to rebuy them and you havent even used your healthbox 150 crystals per dp, da and s, those 150 crystals at a time you use to enhance gameplay won't increase the prize fund any more than if your opponent killed you but will instead accelerate it, so instead of 20 mintues you play with your opponent to accumate a total battle fund of 500 crystals, you would only have to play for 15, that's great assuming that you earn more crystals per the extra 5 mintues, but the extra savings made barely would make much of a difference. You only have 5 hours left to play, that's 15 battles you can play arena with your opponent, every mintue you play you use 3 drugs, every 2 mintues assuming your opponent caused damage to your tank you pull out your health box, every 3 mintues, you die The total loss of crystals for 1 battle including health boxes would be just over 2000 crystals, the prize fund you would earn for that amount of time playing would be 500 crystals, because you used drugs against your opponent as an advantage, the prize fund accelerates to 700 Even if you took the whole 700, the loss of crystals you would have earnt would be - 35%, almost twice the prize fund (1400 crystals) Times that by 15 and the total loss of crystals for drugs would be a grand total of 21000 crystals, compared to your earnings, 10500 crystals, you would have had double what youve earnt, and taking into account your opponent killed you, the loss of earnings would be far greater, and now drug every day and add this up everyday; 20k, 40k... 40k, 80k... etc the numbers become really scary, this is just a basic calculation and estimation on how much crystals you guys trash! Which is why i limit my drugging as much as possible if not at all Before smart cooldowns, this was the amount of crystals some of you lot were wasting.... With smart cooldowns and playing normal battles you wouldn't be using so much drugs at a time, so the loss of crystals for drugs would be around 15k in this instance but still, it aint worth it

The game has gotten boring for me now, not because i've been playing for quite long but because of the updates which devs won't admit they have divided the community, used to be fun, not only the updates but when they switched to unity and changed systems the lag has become unbearable

You already decreased ranks now you are decreasing them again? It should be our choice on what battles we would desire to join, if someone is stupid enough to complain they cant win when they join generalnissmo battle with m0's thats their problem, there are many battles for their rank, at this rate i won't be able to play with anyone hardly

You did shaft justice, however it will be harder to knock railguns off aim now with smoky thanks to this update

Some players on your list are coming back

Still sucks I will forever hate firebird :lol:

And i doubt minigun will have unlimited ammo range, but we will just have to wait for testing to see if it is better than twins or not :p

Hoping that hammer will be nerfed i've come to realise is a bit pointless :) simply because it can't be nerfed until another rebalance, which could be months away, protection against hammer will be equally proportional to other turrets, you may be able to survive an extra shot but i highley doubt it will change anything for me

If tanks can't climb on top of tanks even i would get bored and quit, if people are multing why can't you just report them? Anyway it would be really hard to implement this, say i had a wasp and i was travelling full speed on map like hill and i jumped on top of a player i just get blocked?

What about parkour :lol:

Yeah that is true, what im going to do is reserve mass crystals for m3 to m4 and then use that m4 to buy my other m3's while earning good crystals :D

The only map i played on in my lower rank days was silence and moon silence, i remember catching my gold on the balcony, that's all i can say :D felt good, but they are really hard to catch

I would disagree with you but that weapon has officially became a joke, i can't disagree either, i have a fully upgraded m2 shaft sitting in my garage, never to be used again....

I plan to get both at your rank :P Anyway its a tough choice personally i'd get hunter first

Oh, it used to be unlocked at generalnissmo, thats great

Might be lag, this happened a lot to me last year, it will either unfreeze or you have to refresh

It only took me 5 months to reach captain, you won't be playing with m0's for long, i always used to lose battles to others at my lower rank, however as i ranked up i could earn more crystals and the game wasn't that overpowering anymore Your concept would lose tanki thousands of dollars, pounds whatever currency they deal with, that they could use to make the game better anyway! What about generalissimos and other ranks like me? Your not thinking about the majority. All buyers would quit buying and then you might as well can keep your m0's because there won't be a game to start with anymore! A really bad way for business

For now its neutral, its not going up or down, the only thing for certain thats going up is the $ in their pockets, apart from that everything is neutral They nerfed thunder a bit with self damage, and reduced damage to ricochet and firebird (whch was needed) They also reduced smoky critical hits Private battles being changed to pro-battle pass, not needed, the other modes added to pro battle pass were a clever idea, but for 5k a month to do this to participate in parkour contests and xp mode, is it really worth it? I will continue to stand by my thoughts on shaft, i don't care what anybody says because its true, sticking a laser on a turret is not a rebalance, its the final burying on a turret i used to love, and does tanki think im really bothered to struggle to pick maps were it will actually be useful? Used to be intimidating, a turret that no one saw coming, now its a joke, and i will never use it again because of that, whoever actually came up with that concept must be really really dumb, sorry for speaking the truth As for the new turrets the concept of the ideas was really smart, and im certain they will be enjoyable turrets to buy in the game Smart cooldowns were needed, battles were unbalanced as they were anyway, you can reserve more drugs and not have to worry about people pressing 1,2,3 every time taking crystals which would never be enough to account for their loss of drugs, so that was a neutral change as well Crystal boxes was also a neutral change, im not being discriminate but sometimes i hate the fact a game has so many immature kids in it, 50 and 100 crystal boxes could have stayed if it wasn't for so many kid mults who had nothing better to do than to mult for crystal boxes, no one was playing at all (well adult and teens were) and crystal boxes being added to battle fund gives everyone a fair share, even if the proportionality of what you receive is sometimes lower, it restored the point of playing again Cooldown timer if a team was another great idea, 5 minute timer gave us more time to wait for other guys to join and restore gameplay rather than that two minute timer which gave no time at all Micro upgrades were introduced a few months ago i think, it gave m2 users a chance to compete with m3's and guys who had m3's to go to m4's whcih was equally good for buyers and non buyers, besides this game is one of the cheapest i've seen, so at least it makes not much of a difference Product kits are a bit pointless to buy now but at least it helped filter the druggers, hiding them i wouldn't really be happy because there were some kits i would have bought but because im one or two ranks higher, i can't access them You may have hated smart cooldowns and others didn't but then you may have hated crystal boxes being removed and the ones that did hate smart cooldowns didn't, i can't say the game is getting better because they were some really terrible updates last year but at the same time nothing has dropped really Overall its neutral

It won't be OP simply because there is a re balance coming with a bunch of new paints that will protect against both at once Anyway they've hyped us up too early about machine gun, exciting turret however its almost been 2 1/2 months now and still no release!

I never use heavy hulls :p

With that laser? No chance even if they took it off you would have very little chance either, that weapon is trash to me and ill never use it again :D

Im certian there are guys with more skill than him, you've literally got to play 10+ hours non stop 3-4 years +, its a life i woudln't want...

No, paints will affect hammer, if you can block its 3 shots with paint you have a chance to kill them before they reload, also my corrosion can help me survive 3 railgun m3 shots and 3-4 railgun m2 shots, you just need bigger paints By the way, zeus can deal with fire very effectively, place it on titan and mammy and you have a nightmare to deal with... :ph34r:

Does, its easy to differentate twins users who have skill and those who don't

Not when you get to m3