Please go back to the original unlimited instant usages of purchased supplies! :lol:

sidenote: I don't like the PRO Passes (including the ones included with purchased crystals) because they force you faster up through the ranks...

//Before I played for a year all sort of standard battles and I never had the feeling of "organized crime". I still refuse to think there would be so many players wasting time to plant mults in 15 minutes battles...// - Gabe I'm "glad" to see that you admit your extreme bias and therefore lack critical thinking, which means your points on this topic are invalid.

//Well bro u have said in your previous posts that u have seen more than half of the team sabotaging. Maybe u are confused with sabotagers,mults and low skill casual players// - asifmak You, you accused me of saying that all players on teams sabotage the other team. So I then told you that I never said all. Now you accuse me of something else and imply more than I said. I had said that I sometimes noticed over half of teams being mults, which I accused there being at least one player from the opposing team putting those mults there. Typically there are "only" 2-4 mults on a team and only 1 or none on the other team. Putting mults on an opposing team is sabotaging them. sidenote: Yes, hacking is also a form of sabotage when hacking the opponent. Anyway, my point was that the above forms of cheating INCREASED with the reduced supplies test AND that this test made it almost impossible to succeed against the cheaters...

//What is true in internet life - be it games, politics, or gossip - is people with a gripe post much more often than people who are satisfied.// - littledenis About the only thing I seem to agree with you on, though I'd add this applies to radio and newspaper lives too.

asifmak 2117 posts Profile Posted 20 Feb 2017 - 02:07 Canada_wins, on 19 Feb 2017 - 15:17, said: I my 4 years of playing this game i have never seen such things and i do think these type of things doesnt exist only i have seen successful fly hacks. Plz stop spamming with your nonsense post I mean the whole team sabotaging .. Seriously? Seriously? :o In my 4 years (about), I have seen what I've described increasing the higher the rank. And yes, I also used to see the fly hack, but now I'm again seeing the jumping teleportation hack, but not often. Mostly I "only" see the artificial lag hack and putting players onto opponents' teams who don't try to help that team win (sabotage/multing)... EDIT: and I never said a whole team was sabotaging, I said one or more players on a team were sabotaging the other team with fake teammates so that their own team could win unfairly...so you should stop lying. (besides, my comments aren't the original internet meaning of the word spam, nor are they the slang meanings since none of my comments are useless, nonsense, gibberish, irrelevant, obnoxious, attention seeking [the comments themselves of mine], nor intended to disturb, and I don't break forum rules...so therefore I haven't spammed)

...I've seen those too but the cheaters are typically astute enough to play their tank for at least a few seconds, in order to pretend they're not cheating like you did.

Oh really? I'm getting better stats with this update when I'm on a cheating team than before when I was on a cheating team. Mind you, I'm getting worse stats on teams not cheating with this test than teams not cheating before the test.

You are lying. I have often noticed one or two (sometimes as many as OVER HALF of the team) being players that generate almost no points and almost always have almost 0 kills. And typically this isn't the same for who composes the other team. Sometimes this cheating happens by whoever on my team against the other team but most times on my team by the other team... And sabotaging is not hacking, unless it's done by someone on your own team against your own team. And at my current rank, there are zero unskilled players. (unless they cheated to acquire that account)

Look :ph34r: , if Tanki had almost 100% no multing/sabotaging and any other forms of cheating, then and only then would I be GLADLY willing to consider this anti-drugs change. (When I was in battles where no cheating occurred and my K/D hadn't been significantly negatively affected by cheaters in previous games, I enthusiastically enjoyed playing with zero drugs...even when on a losing team.)

^ quit copying me. :P (to sniperhitman)

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LittleWillie 817 posts Profile Posted 19 Feb 2017 - 18:58 Many many many players have come here and told us that thousands of players will quit Tanii if the experiment becomes the normal system. I have two things to say. (1) These are empty threats. You can say you will leave Tanki but you cannot speak for anyone else. You do not know what thousands of stragers will do. Of course you might turn out to be correct in your guess, but let's all understand that is just a guess. (2) Sunday morning about 1am USA time I happened to see the number of players in the game. It was 75,000+ I have never seen more than about 65,000 players before and that during the big Christmas celebrations. Has this drug experiment sparked more interest in Tanki than anything else since Modules were separated from Paints? Tanki collects the data. They'll see. But just maybe these threats from the big druggers will prove to be 100% untrue in reverse. Might Tanki increase their player base by making it more interesting to the majority? Hmmmmmmm. Little Willie, This is the first time over the years that I've actually considered quitting Tanki. If this test becomes the norm, I'm leaning to either outright quit Tanki or quit once I run out of what I have in my game's account... ...too much multing/sabotaging now occurs compared to before test! (it was already bad then, which is the largest reason I drugged, to counter them but now I usually lose to the cheaters)

I'm even more mad now, because: 1) my comments were edited by an admin/mod despite my not saying anything wrong 2) the cheating in games has drastically INCREASED (more sabotaging after the testing started compared to before)!!!! :angry:

I just completed a few more games to finish my missions and I'm even more mad now!!! ...this time I was on teams who the other team multed (put fake players onto my teams). What was my K/D this time by being on the victim side? 0.8 Until Tanki removes multing and hacking, full drugging is the only solution...so bring it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am mad!!! :angry: I just finished a CTF game (Noise map) with a 26.00 K/D ratio...I'm shocked that I was so high, until I clicked Tab and noticed my team had cheated against the other team by putting a couple fake players onto their team. I wish it hadn't taken me almost a full round to realize this but I typed my complaints anyway AND reported the mults... ...this new version simply makes it easier to cheat, because the victims can't use drugs nonstop to defend themselves from the cheaters.

The only reasons I drugged (meaning that I never drugged otherwise and didn't complain when my team was winning or losing during the exceptions to this list): 1- other team put fake players onto my team (multing) 2- other team made my team have artificial lag hack 3- enough of the above happened to noticeably decrease my K/D so I'm trying to get back to 3.50 and need to drug to do so 4- when gold boxes drop ...and since I'm not a hypocrite, I also complain when my team cheats by multing the other team!

#307 Mafioso 10937 posts Profile Sometimes it's be better to save your supplies and let the enemy take the flag and then do a powerful counter-attack while they are on cooldowns. And if your team is weak, then what can I say? Tough luck. CTF is a team effort and the stronger, more organised team is supposed to win. A single player with a lot of drugs shouldn't be able to carry the whole team and resist the full enemy opposition. That was the main problem with CTF before. Which is why the multers/cheaters are now owning Tanki. I drugged to compete successfully against those friggen cheaters...

madalien 12 posts Profile Posted 18 Feb 2017 - 10:20 A thought on cheating: surely cheats are now obvious. If you run a routine at server level, you should now easily be able to pick out the people who drug instantly they enter battle, or spawn, as this can only be done by cheats. Also pick up people who go instantly from no drugs to full drugs. These should then be automatically banned for a week (say) on first offence, then a month etc. The new update should make spotting such people very easy - it would then be worth implementing permanently with a lot less whining than we are seeing in the discussions above. What do you think Hazel??? Dude, that ONLY applies to one type of cheating and that type of cheating is rare. Most cheating is instead causing fake lags or giving the other team fake teammates...

Thanks Little Willie. I already noticed that too. I don't know how they do it but during this test AND BEFORE it, hackers also instantly drugged repeatedly...they hate us buyers being able to mostly compete with their cheating but yes, we buyers who don't hack can't do that with our drugs, unlike them. (never mind them multing our teams as another form of cheating and/or them hacking our systems so we get artificial lags) Extra Edit: But this kind of cheating I rarely see. I typically only see the fake lag cheats and the fake teammates cheat. I almost never see the fake drugs cheat.

I know it's a test and I'm pee'd off about it because it's a massive failure (unless you like the cheating to stay the same or increase)!!!! :angry: ...I'm obviously not referring to purchased supplies/"drugs" since they're legal. I am instead referring to the less deterrence against the hackers (ie/ fake lags have since increased) and saboteurs (ie/ multing), which have increased since this test started. (now, just watch the gossip spread about my complaint to where the cheaters will then choose to almost never cheat during the test until AFTER the test becomes an implemented reality...)

Since I'm banned from quoting anyone else and/or myself: This game now is more unbalanced and emphasizes even more frequent cheating... ...what's not to love about that if you're a hacker and/or a multer/saboteur? :o

And you are a liar about not seeing anything of the kind. After my last map round today, and after I complained again about the other team putting fake players onto my team (which they did), and after I reported said players, my team had at least one other player put a few fake players onto the other team, so I complained AGAINST my team and reported that too...

This game now is more unbalanced and emphasizes even more frequent cheating... ...what's not to love about that if you're a hacker and/or a multer/saboteur? :o

Saying that I HATE this update/version is being too kind. I ABHOR it!!!!!!!!!! :angry: Why? Exactly as I feared.... 1) the hackers succeed far more often 2) AND the multers/saboteurs succeed far more often now!!!!!!!!!