pm me for more info if you want to, i stand behind my words, it's a plain and easy map, but by all means contact me and prove me wrong in game. :)

boombox, has the worst qualities of small and medium maps mashed together. A complete slaughterhouse for a non-drugger, only 1 point in cp, flat, boring and easy terrain and overall unintresting gameplay. Thank god no-one makes those at higher ranks.

What do you guys think of paladin? I'm a fan of medium to large maps and already have thunder 30/50, but im thinking smoky could work better as aggressive offender and something to switch off when the enemy team has those 40-50% thuder protected guys who target me. And most of all i'm still lacking m3 hull. i thought hunter would be more ideal becouse of the stability and power, but after using wasp for a few months i've learned to value speed more and think viking could work too. Do you think it's still a good kit after the rebalance?

i could've used a basic discount, but i guess it's nice to support buyers too.

Possible, but i refuse to believe he has an alt without isida and mammoth as main combo.

I'm sensing a @RIDDLER_8 influence here, you even got the font down.

Getting m3s without buying at colonel used to be easy, i don't buy and had my isida m3½ back then. Anyways i understand it's kinda bs:y now, that you can't even get m3s to fight them with. Still, every low rank m3 is gonna rank up pretty quickly and stuff will balance out. Well, besides the drug part, there is still nothing you can do against full m4 drugging jackhammer, but leave... but those are the guys paying for our playing so i don't personally mind.

Playing wasp and thunder i often die by getting forced out in the open and pounded by smokys vulcans and hammers, but it's still worth wasps speed, that allows me to keep distance. I hate getting people in my face when i use mammoth or hunter.

Someone who has plaid the game for years and has millions of exp already has a huge advantage over new genes, he might have gotten almost free m4s when the mus were rebranded. Many of them have huge drug-pools as a result of the old drug kits, not available for non-buyers anymore. Some have gotten to earn their crystals against equal opponents when m4s were just implimented or didn't even exist, Most have protection modules with 4 slots. Some have went thorugh the first refund, and gotten to start their garage fresh at generalissimo. Some have bought old op kits, some have gathered a year or 2 worth of daily gifts, when tanki gave away that stuff for free. Those are some of the benefits a veteran has had. And while we are in the topic of benefits: is it really a problem if only from now on legends will get 40k /200k exp, meanwhile there are premium buyers who constantly gain 2x more crystals and finish ranks and exp missions 0.5 times faster? I mean maybe it could be like 100-200k or something for veterans over 3 million, but you have to realise that veterans, buyers and expesially veteran buyers have huge headstart over new legends. and this will only balance things out for them. And balance is what ultimately makes this game fun and wortwhile for everyone.

You really are devovted to that combo and the ctf mode, i'm pretty impressed by that :)

Now that i've observed thunder on my main for a few days it really feels like that is the case, but measuring range is a bit hard in game. If the wiki stays outdated for much longer i'll do some more m0 tests on that and some other stuff.

I don't find it vulnerable at all, it's smaller and heavyer than viking and definetly not unstable anymore. The height is also good for shooting higher, catching golds and shaking people off of your hull. I do agree, that smoky isn't the best turret with hunter, but it's not that bad either, expesially now that hunter handles close combat better, due to the added strenght. The "hitting edges is hard" thing only applies to fighting vikings (which are also easyer to knock off now that they are lighter) other hulls are usually high enough (atleast for my thunder) to knock off. Frankly i think hunter got a whole lot better after the update, similar health with dico and viking makes it more capable in drugwars, and the added weight and acceleration give it some nice pushing power and stability. I think your problem is that you have an m2 at a rank this high as do i, and many people you and me fight have m3 guns and hulls, that are harder to knock off, push, give hareder punch and make hunter seem weak, even though it's not. Afterall hunter m2 is a hull that unlocks at captain. Im definetly getting hunter m3 over viking, unless i get a really good deal.

I did some experimenting with m0 accounts and there definetly is a curve, not only with thunder, but with every turret besides shaft, freeze, fire, hammer and isida. (edit: and smokys crits) Max damage isn't dealt when a turret shoots from distances lesser than "the range of max damage". The damage in question is something between the min damage and the max damage, from what i've seen. The wiki is outdated, and doesn't represent the way current turrets deal damage.

Haha, i just now noticed the skeleton teeth. All this time i've thought it was just a plain picture of Guevara :lol:

Thunder is good now, no denying that, but as i said he already has emerald lgc. Besides, thunder doesn't work in smaller maps where fire and freeze are found. The only maps that module would really suit are poly cps, and twins is pretty common there too. Twins reload was cut in half? NO. The big changes are in m0-m2. m4s reload is still the same and m3 got a miniscule nerf of 0.2 seconds longer reload (2.5 tp 2.7). Not to forget twins got it's damage and range of maximum damage got buffed, so m3 is pretty much the same, meanwhile m4 twins is better than before. The alteration is a fair enough point, but don't foget twins and freeze don't even have their m2 alteration out yet, not to even talk about m3 Alterations aren't a stable investment yet imo. And 100k, means module, another m3 or many mus in a good sale.

1.Badger T-F, it's more specialised and very good for smaller maps. You already have emerald lgc for good thunder protection. 2. Twins m3, you already have freeze for areal damage. Most poular freeze modules have fire prot too. Twins has that infinite ammo for heavy drugwars, and it didn't get nerfed like it's competitors smoky and hammer did.

After a few hours of playing im pretty satisfied with the new balance :)

Buyers are usually nice. I guess if you are willing to spend money on a game you most likely enjoy it and thus have some kind of respect towards others who share the same enjoyment. However there are some arrogant ones i don't like. And i'm certainly not a fan of getting raided.

They swapped the maouverability. Viking isn't as fast as old hunter, and both have the same health. But tbh it results in the same conclusion as just plain swap: hunter will be more desirable.

It's a fun-to-use turret, which many people own, or have planned to buy. But tbh all the fuzz about is a bit odd

Yeah, sorry for your crystals, but there will be a sale and 2x funds so you got that going for you.