That's because you didn't read mine (as explained). ?

Why would you use light or heavy caps lol? Mistake #1. Is that a compliment? ? It's not a word at least. I love that you tallied that up :D. Yeah it helps. Guess what also helps? Shaft+Titan. Can't think of a better weapon to use even for a Wasp bro. If you wanna just _play around_ then sure, use a weaker turret.

Do you :D. Maybe you stopped reading before the part about one of its only purposes of praying on Hornets. Could've smiled about that too. And Hornet is a lot faster than Viking. And Wasp is even faster.... if speed got you kills, yea, I'd bet it really definitely mattered. ? And as also mentioned, the speed of Viking is completely negated by its wide profile. It's also super slow to turn, so where you thinking of running with it? And which turrent you planning on using with that peek-a-boo tactic? Cuz you can't really "dodge" a shaft round. ? So best you can do with it against Shaft+Titans is to run away, and if that's it, then I guess you might as well use the better hull then. Cuz bro, mid range hulls = trade-off. They're a _compromise_. They can't outrun a Hornet, and they can't outlast a Titan. I mean use them all you like, what do I care? Brings me more kills as usual. And then somehow you still conclude that Titan+Shaft is better for kills. And then the hypothetical CTF scenario that ends 0-0 ends up ending 0-3. By the way, that'd be the easiest battle ever with 50% protection, and rail, mag, striker, gauss, you name it if Shaft is out. Hornet would bypass the OD domes, and another Titan dome would protect the flag guy. Like I said, I win about half of my mult team matches, and that includes my #1 mode CTF. You literally couldn't do that with _any_ _other_ hull or turret when you need fast kills, quick recharge, and lots of HP, cuz there's nowhere to run anyways (it's not like your team's got your back). Wasn't that long ago I killed 8 guys solo while returning with the flag (dunno how many I got twice). That doesn't follow at all lol. Why is TDM #3 in my mode rankings, if that's the only one I should play? And if you played me in any of those, I'd probably be the only one charging at your spawn, because the Shaft Rapid-fire is the OP'est rush gun in the game, people just have a hard time accepting it (it's literally the only alt I mentioned anyways). ? Roasts basically anyone short to mid-range, and you can always use the sniper for long range (and it roasts even with the -30%). There's not a single better all-arounder than that, and not a single one that deals damage as fast, and reloads as quickly. In conclusion: Shaft+Titan for kills & caps. ?

You weird people come up with your analyses and terms like LC, RFM and SBE Shaft, yet I bet in actual use (like, playing cuz it's a game) none of you gets close to the kd I do. Even after playing Parkour almost exclusively for prob over a year, I'm still at >3.0. And seriously, Mammoth and Viking? ? Mammoth is _the_ dumbest hull for MM _almost_ in every single possible scenario. Maybe Dictator tops it, but Mammoth is slower to move than Titan, slower to turn than Titan, and gets the same HP as Titan (talking about M4 cuz it's all that matters - Mk8 is a stupid term). And Viking, don't even _talk_ to me about Viking. ? The most over-used and overcompensating hull in the game. All it's got going for itself is the sacrifices in HP so it's weaker than Titan, and the sacrifices speed, so it's slower than Hornet. (I didn't include Wasp there, because Wasp is basically a joke too. Best you can use it for is Shock Freeze and OD.) So that makes Viking. Maybe sort of fast enough to prey on the weaker Hornets & Wasps, and _possibly_ to outrun Titans (altho its so fat it gets stuck everywhere, and the people (kids) who use it almost exclusively hold "w" until they die). Every time I face a Viking, almost exclusively even without the protection, they're toast. Shoot 2 times with Rapid-fire, wait until the 2nd shot reloads, shoot again, and again, until they heal, and fire the 1-2 reserve shots. Toast. Toast is what I'm telling you. So to sum up: Mammoth = slow (garbage), Viking = a compromise of better hulls (garbage), Dictator = LOL!, Hornet = super hard to make work, basically hangs by its OD, Wasp = same thing, just even more unstable & noticeable. Titan = best, Hunter = you could make a case. Relies on OD but a pretty good one. So yeah, in a tank game you want a turret (Shaft) and a tank (Titan) - preferrably not a flamethrower-equipped piece of ?. Have yet to meet my match. Since MM, I invariably get 90% mult teams, but I carry them (it's too hard for Tanki to put pros in pro matches and noobs in theirs), and we win about half the matches with my >4.0 kd as opposed to their <1.0. It's safer a lot of times for enemies to just camp at our spawn instead of their own. _Only_ thing that _ever_ gives me trouble 1 on 1 is another Titan with 50% protection. Luckily, that's pretty rare, and usually, they kinda blow.

No, just last turn. They don't stack up like last time.

Well I would definitely "see" it. As in "let's not ever do anything". "OK, we have to cuz it's way too uneven". And if you wanna say "OK so why did snowmen lose" (if so), then fine, they're just as bad at that as MM matchup balances. So that to me in-and-of-itself is not a good argument. E: the weirdo ""spies from the Elves faction have dug up info" thing would fit that too. ?

Yea would be awkward if us Santas lost bro.

Yikes!

That's for sure, we have a lot more to lose than some people.. ^^

Oh thanks, I was Ctrl+F'ing "vault" all over.

So wait, vaults dont give conts like they did last time or what?

That's how we got 100 thousand players down to 16 thousand and star-counted wars that don't count the stars.

Last year's Wolf Faction member here. We didn't quite reach the peak back then, but we sure came far. This time, as Santas, you're not coming for us - we're coming for you.