NEW SCORING SYSTEM!

[TOXICPIN3APPL3 1]

OK! I just spent 3 hours in one match gained a score of 2025 the fund was 604. everyone else left 6 people join on the enemy team and they got the hole fund except for 2! I SPENT 3 GOD DAMN HOURS IN A MATCH FOR 2 CRYSTALS!! :angry:. THE SCORING SYSTEM SHOULD BE BASED ON TIME SPENT NOT KILLS OR ANYTHING SO THE PEOPLE WHO STAY IN THE BATTLES TILL THE END DESERVE THE MOST CRYSTALS :angry:

[Dihos 2]

Dude, calm down. You are just mad because you only got 2 crystals. It's called rage. Happens to everyone. The scoring system is fine as it is now.

[RockandRide 12]

Then the person who creates a battle would win everything :/ And Thats happened to me a lot dude... at least you didn't use ur drugs.

Edited November 23, 2012 by RockandRide

[Panzer5454 3]

Dude, calm down. You are just mad because you only got 2 crystals. It's called rage. Happens to everyone. The scoring system is fine as it is now.

ha ha ha ha LOL :angry: RAGE :angry:

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Which team won the game?

Panzer5454 - Can you please not derail this thread?

[WookySpolf 63]

A well-timed use of a nitro can win the match. Besides, if the other team is over-run by druggers there is nothing anyone can do.

[jalenpen 9]

If it was who was in the battle most, there would be no point in trying to win.

[Meliora 1,652]

What about the person who just stood there and did nothing while the others all left?

[mchen 162]

It should be the winning team that gets most of the crystals and that is what happened, this game rewards winners not losers

[Wiki-goo_Forumz 1]

Don't wanna be rude, but those 6 people made that guy a wasteman.

[Timo_legend 1]

Dude, calm down. You are just mad because you only got 2 crystals. It's called rage. Happens to everyone. The scoring system is fine as it is now.

 

The scoring system is good, but it isn't fine as it is by a long shot. The mechanics of the scoring system seems to basic to me. I agree that winners should be primarily rewarded because the aim is to win. I feel spending a large lump of your time on a match that is stolen towards the end by a 'team' of druggers is BS and the mechanics should incorporate time spent. I've played many others games in the past where despite the fact that I am not the best on the team I was loyal and invested the most time, which resulted in me getting a better reward than the person 3x better than me but putting in a 3rd of the time. The atmosphere of druggers "rushing" a match taking the cream of the crystals and "rushing" the next battle is rampant in this game and I really do think better measures should be taken to reduce the repeated spamming of drugs in matches.

In summary the scoring system would benefit from some tweaking to prevent it favoring the people tipping the scales.

[r_bluelight0 3]

OK! I just spent 3 hours in one match gained a score of 2025 the fund was 604. everyone else left 6 people join on the enemy team and they got the hole fund except for 2! I SPENT 3 GOD DAMN HOURS IN A MATCH FOR 2 CRYSTALS!! :angry:. THE SCORING SYSTEM SHOULD BE BASED ON TIME SPENT NOT KILLS OR ANYTHING SO THE PEOPLE WHO STAY IN THE BATTLES TILL THE END DESERVE THE MOST CRYSTALS :angry:

you should have changed teams =D

[mchen 162]

agreed, it's your fault if you pick the losing team, druggers is a problem that can't really be solved but you should have hopefully considered the possibility of druggers ruining the game in the first place!

[DR.TWINS 253]

You win some you lose some. Life's not fair.

[Timo_legend 1]

agreed, it's your fault if you pick the losing team, druggers is a problem that can't really be solved but you should have hopefully considered the possibility of druggers ruining the game in the first place!

 

Wouldn't that ring true for just about every match and therefore leave you with no option but to just not play at all? Flawed logic really. Drugging should be addressed on moral grounds and even if you just limit amount per hour you drug or extend the timer before you can drug again. Its a small gesture that will positively impact those that CHOOSE not to spam drugs.

[Neverhood94 0]

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=154372&hl=

(:

[HichigoShiiro 4,378]

at least you didn't use drugs.

[mchen 162]

Wouldn't that ring true for just about every match and therefore leave you with no option but to just not play at all? Flawed logic really. Drugging should be addressed on moral grounds and even if you just limit amount per hour you drug or extend the timer before you can drug again. Its a small gesture that will positively impact those that CHOOSE not to spam drugs.

Yes you might say that, but you might misunderstood the meaning, first you pick a battle that you can actually play in and if druggers do come, you'd better be prepared. Also by picking the losing team, most of the time you'll come out worse so no, not flawed logic at all Timo_legend.

And no, choosing to drug less does not work. This is due to people having saved up drugs and the need to win so drugging can't be addressed by an agreement but the need to fight back, if you can't win the fight then you might as well leave or play on but in my opinion this wastes time that could be spent elsewhere to earn crystals.

[Timo_legend 1]

Yes you might say that, but you might misunderstood the meaning, first you pick a battle that you can actually play in and if druggers do come, you'd better be prepared. Also by picking the losing team, most of the time you'll come out worse so no, not flawed logic at all Timo_legend.

And no, choosing to drug less does not work. This is due to people having saved up drugs and the need to win so drugging can't be addressed by an agreement but the need to fight back, if you can't win the fight then you might as well leave or play on but in my opinion this wastes time that could be spent elsewhere to earn crystals.

 

Am I to believe that we are can't beat them, so join them? It is that way of thinking that prevents issues like these being addressed. I have a neighbour that lets her dog poop in my garden, do I fix this by pooping in my garden too? No I think not. I understand your meaning just fine. Pick your fights, only join winning teams and drug drug DRUG! I disagree, has much thought been given to the struggling teams? If I'm on a team that was doing well but is now struggling, is it appropriate for me to switch to the winning team? No it isn't and I find it noobish and cowardly to join a winning team because it's winning. I always join the struggling team to help even up the sides and 7/10 matches I find it makes a difference.

The drugger problem needs addressing and all this navel gazing isn't going to help find a resolution.

[r_bluelight0 3]

Am I to believe that we are can't beat them, so join them? It is that way of thinking that prevents issues like these being addressed. I have a neighbour that lets her dog poop in my garden, do I fix this by pooping in my garden too? No I think not. I understand your meaning just fine. Pick your fights, only join winning teams and drug drug DRUG! I disagree, has much thought been given to the struggling teams? If I'm on a team that was doing well but is now struggling, is it appropriate for me to switch to the winning team? No it isn't and I find it noobish and cowardly to join a winning team because it's winning. I always join the struggling team to help even up the sides and 7/10 matches I find it makes a difference.

The drugger problem needs addressing and all this navel gazing isn't going to help find a resolution.

that

[mchen 162]

Am I to believe that we are can't beat them, so join them? It is that way of thinking that prevents issues like these being addressed. I have a neighbour that lets her dog poop in my garden, do I fix this by pooping in my garden too? No I think not. I understand your meaning just fine. Pick your fights, only join winning teams and drug drug DRUG! I disagree, has much thought been given to the struggling teams? If I'm on a team that was doing well but is now struggling, is it appropriate for me to switch to the winning team? No it isn't and I find it noobish and cowardly to join a winning team because it's winning. I always join the struggling team to help even up the sides and 7/10 matches I find it makes a difference.

The drugger problem needs addressing and all this navel gazing isn't going to help find a resolution.

Get your facts straight, never did i say join the winning team if your on the losing. This makes it worse for 2 reasons, 1. you lose all of your points so it's all gone to waste, 2. you won't even win too many crystals anyway because there is likely to be a tank already in first with a lot more points then you. When I meant pick a battle, I meant going from the server and pick a decent battle that you think you'll probably earn some crystals in not the fact that swapping teams was the solution, I've played this game long enough to know what I' doing.

Secondly, never did I say drug hardcore or USE EM ALL UP! The fact I was trying to explain to you was that you should be prepared to meet druggers with drugs. It's the only way, asking nicely never works unless you're friends and I don't think that you know more than 90% of the online community do you!? Picking a struggling team is fine but the chances of winning are lower than the other team winning unless your team significantly outnumber or outskill them when more people join on your team and people leave theirs. I never said picking a struggling team was bad, what I implied through all of my comments was that you pick a decent battle that you'll think you'll win as there is no certainty as to who will win.

Secondly, I'm not noobish, I'm a higher rank than you so get your facts straight and the drugger problem will never be sold as this is a boost for money for the owners of tanki and are a unique feature. Maybe no supply battles becoming more frequently is an option but other then that, I'm not seeing a solution.

Edited November 27, 2012 by mchen

[Timo_legend 1]

I wasn't targeting you per say, sorry to cause offence. Asking people to cool of drugs wont work which I agree, that's why I think reigning in the abuse of them might help. Alternatively make the no supplies more attractive with a higher crystal drop or a quicker fund growth. Covering your ears and not addressing the problem won't help. I don't think it's fair to put 2hrs+ into a productive match then have to start spamming drugs because a team has swooped in to steal the game with drug abuse. That match may have been well picked at the start but now has become unsustainable so how is that fair? Does that mean you should now avoid those games and pick timed matches? All that serves to do is reduce diversity.

 

I'm not noobish, I'm a higher rank than you so get your facts straight

Higher ranks means little to me, it just means you have wasted more time on this game than me. /insert sarcastic clap.

[mchen 162]

Higher rank, ( haha) but I'm sorry but it means a lot to me. You said I'm noobish, you did say sorry but did you mean it!???Think not, think about what you say before you say something because since I'm a high rank, I'm quite sure I know what I'm doing in this game, I didn't say I was better than you but rather the point was made to battle your comment about me being noobish.

Matches aren't really diverse anyways, have you forgotten?? Millions of Silence games dominate the servers and they aren't diverse anyway. They are terrible games usually leaving the game quite unbalanced and unfair so one side usually outpowers the other eventually. The map layout is alright but the blue team have too many camping spots to shoot from and the red teams base is sometimes way too entrenched.

I never was covering up my ears, I support drugs and they are good in the game and personally, I drug from time to time but only to stop the enemy druggers and nothing else. They are feature of the game and many people say they are bad but they're free anyway with daily bonus so I don't know why I'm not addressing the problem because I believe there is no problem.

Matches like I said are unexpected of what is to come in the first place, I said that in my last comment and you ignored it - off course you won't know what the outcome is! But picking a good game is a vague point but the point was that if you pick a reasonable game where you think you have a good team then it's fine but you can't always say millions of points about why a battle goes wrong, a epic player could join the enemy team or you might lose or your team might lose players. It's a totally unpredictable and not a very good point.

Edited November 28, 2012 by mchen

[Timo_legend 1]

I think perhaps you need to straighten some facts I didn't call you noobish. I called the ideology of joining the winning team noobish. If you take that as me calling you a noob then I can live with that. I'm happy you take your digital rank seriously, and the apology was only true to you taking offense not to the comment. Anyway this topic is derailing and its time for both of us to remember Wheaton's Law (google for definition). The issue in this topic is that you bust your chops in what started out a fun enjoyable match and then the other team fills up with a organised team of druggers that steals the whole thing. That isn't fair for the now losing team but that also sucks for the other members of the winning team. This is where in my view the problem needs addressing not drugs as a whole.

[mchen 162]

I never said you should always join the winning team but what you think is the better team to join, ( might be the losing team but who cares this subject has derailed.)

The noob thing is kind of getting complicated and the above sentence i''ve said shows that i do not support the ideology of joining the winning team and never have done. (End of story...)

The guy did get a little angry over drugging but cannot be solved, you need you and your friends to drug back to battle them, like I've said before, you need to be prepared before going into battle and for the worst outcomes. Drugs can never be really addressed unless they are banned or you're playing a NS battle then I don't see how?

Just playing for fun is good but if you want to start winning, you might have to think about what battle you're joining.

Let's just end with a truce :)