Micro-upgrades in progress

[ShadowyNinja 208]

When the micro update comes,should i microupdate isida or rail? (on new acc (master sergeant ) i have 20000 crystals there

i upgrade rail because it could have m2 damage at the rank you get it

[ShadowyNinja 208]

Some of my real life friends who plays tanki they also think that. So they wont microupgrade anything. They will just make m1,m2,m3 permanantly. They also thinks that there will be a m4 in the future.

i agree that there will be an m4 in the future

[GTDONE 98]

Guys.. I was thinking, micro upgrades will be totally useless, because now, game is balanced, everyone has M2-M2 fight or M3-M3 etc..

But when it will be launched, everyone will; after a short time, have his gun and hull upgraded at M2.7 or M3.7. The fight will stay equal and the game balanced, but we will have spend more crystals !

 

I come to the conclusion that this upgrade is just a way for Tanki to make more money on Tanki's buyers - They will have to buy the M + microupgrades and as it will be more expensive to get the M+microupgrades, more players will buy crystals with real money as they will need more crystals to get the same balanced fight.

 

you spend the crystals anyway when you buy the next tier weapon plus the next tier is cheaper if you microupgrade so your argument does not hold up, crystals are ment to be spent

Tanki is business? for sure ! i mean you posted here so.. no point ranting elswhere, as long as you can play for free what is the point of this

[Raphael2 3,263]

you spend the crystals anyway when you buy the next tier weapon plus the next tier is cheaper if you microupgrade so your argument does not hold up, crystals are ment to be spent

Tanki is business? for sure ! i mean you posted hereso.. no point ranting elswhere, as long as you can play for free what is the point of this

You still haven't understood. Actually, we pay the price of a M2 (at my level) to have a balanced gameplay.

With this upgrade, you will have to pay the price of the M2 + microupgrade price ! The game will still be balanced once everyone has buy microupgrades. BUT everyone would have paid more !

 

And eve, if next tier is cheaper.. Microupgrades on M2 + M3 cheaper will still be more expensive than M3 alone !

%y argument hold up.

[GTDONE 98]

we can only speculate about the costs, that is why you have only a theory not a fact, what if for m3 you pay only the difference between m2+micro to the m3 price ? even if it is more crystals it is still better than waiting 10 ranks to get from rail m2 to m3 for example

Vasily Sabirov said in the video that you can upgrade max 75% of the next tier so common logic dictates the price for the fully microupgraded gun to be at least 75% x value of next tier imo

we can only wait until the update is released to debate properly the pro/cons , as for the dynamics of the gameplay they will be changed il give you that, just look at the rank limits brought by the 161 update wich messed up everything

[Raphael2 3,263]

It is logical that microupgrade+M cheaper will be more expensive than M at normal price.

And it is 70%.

[THEKILLer98 6]

Good job tanki developers :)

[ronen93 46]

Raphael would be right if the Tanki dev teams implement those MU pricing system which Raphael mentioned in earlier post.

Here's the similar analogy relate to a business that focus on capitalist: Let's say MU are like mini chocolate bar and cost 2 tokens each and full upgrade are like large chocolate bar which is four times the size of mini choc bar and cost about 6 tokens. You go to a shop that sells these choc. You have enough to buy large bar, with 6 tokens in your pocket, but is not available in stock. So you decided to buy four mini bars to have same size of large one but is costing you more than what you can pay, total cost is 8 tokens. So you leave one and pay the three mini bars instead with no changes. Price should not fool customer because smaller one price may sound cheap ( in fact, it is cheap) but paying more for large one is much more beneficial in terms of price to size ratio.

So this is where tanki dev wanted us to pay more crystals, either by choosing buying MU or full upgrade which it doesn't matter since crystals are spent anyways.

[GTDONE 98]

And it is 70%.

to me it's sounds like 75 % at min 2:08 in the video, perhabs Semyon could clear this up for us if Vasily said 75% or 70%

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Guys.. I was thinking, micro upgrades will be totally useless, because now, game is balanced, everyone has M2-M2 fight or M3-M3 etc..

But when it will be launched, everyone will; after a short time, have his gun and hull upgraded at M2.7 or M3.7. The fight will stay equal and the game balanced, but we will have spend more crystals !

 

I come to the conclusion that this upgrade is just a way for Tanki to make more money on Tanki's buyers - They will have to buy the M + microupgrades and as it will be more expensive to get the M+microupgrades, more players will buy crystals with real money as they will need more crystals to get the same balanced fight.

 

FALSE. Micro-upgrades allow us to alter specific characteristics of our equipment. Some of us may choose to increase our hulls health, while others may stick with speed. Therefore, our equipment will be able to further enhance our play styles. It allows tanks to be tankier, and speedy wasps to be even faster. It means more variety in game, and the ability to make the most of tactical play styles. A smoky for example can ignore his damage output, but focus on his fire rate, therefore allowing for more critical hit opportunities. An isida can decide to increase his teammate healing ability, or he can simply focus on his own damage. If he chooses the former, he is able to focus his playstyle on being a medic rather than a vampire. A railgun vs railgun fight, if one upgraded their damage while the other upgraded their firing speed, and both shoot each other at the exact same time the first shot, in the second shot, the railgun who chose firing speed should in theory shoot the enemy first before the railgun with damage upgrades can fully charge his weapon. If a firebird wants to play a peek-a-boo playstyle, he can raise his afterburn effect damage so that he can pop in and out from behind walls, allowing him to avoid being out in the open receiving damage, while hurting his opponent. There are so many more options now, hopefully the examples I listed above will allow you all to think more tactically with this update just around the corner.

 

(This is correct, yes? We are allowed specific characteristics of upgrades, microupgrades are NOT overall equipment upgrades. They are certain aspects.)

Edited June 25, 2013 by r_brandybabyxx0

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

ALSO --- IMPORTANT Take this into consideration!!!!!!

 

If (as the above comments state) we can upgrade our equipment 75% OF THE NEXT MODIFICATION.... Look at these specific upgrades.... dictator for example? M2-M3 the jump is HUGE. So is the level required! That means a M2 dictator unlocked at first lieutenant can be 75% as good as a Generalissimo item? Therefore at first lieutenant we are essentially getting a much higher ranked item? And think about thunder! M2-M3 is so minimal. If you get 75% of upgrades on an M2 thunder, you pay for basically nothing. But on a wasp?!? M1-M2 difference is HUGE again. That means you can have super low ranks running around with (lets do the math) (m1wasp - 8.0 speed -> m2 wasp 10.1speed .. 75% of 2.1 = 1.5 SO 9.5 SPEED ON A M1 WASP?! At a suuuuper low rank?!?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING GUYS.

 

This means M1 Wasp micro-upgraded for speed (75% of M2) makes M1 WASP FASTER THAN M3 HORNET?! Prepare to say hello to more wasps, and goodbye to hornets!

 

It also means M1 Mammoth can in theory have 275 HP at Staff Sergeant. SAY GOODBYE TO BALANCE.

Edited June 25, 2013 by r_brandybabyxx0

[The-Player3 6]

If you microupgrade Rail M0, you will be able to 1-shot Hornet and Wasp M0.

[jonathanjoseph 71]

It also means M1 Mammoth can in theory have 275 HP at Staff Sergeant. SAY GOODBYE TO BALANCE.

Never thought about that! So, a 275 armoured person can play against Privates?

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Never thought about that! So, a 275 armoured person can play against Privates?

I doubt even the mods thought about it. Make sure everyone reads my last two posts lol. I love the idea of faster gameplay though. The faster the hulls move, and the more damage the guns do, the more skill it requires to aim and stay alive! Meaning the game requires more time to master.

Edited June 25, 2013 by r_brandybabyxx0

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

you spend the crystals anyway when you buy the next tier weapon plus the next tier is cheaper if you microupgrade so your argument does not hold up, crystals are ment to be spent

Tanki is business? for sure ! i mean you posted hereso.. no point ranting elswhere, as long as you can play for free what is the point of this

Like I've said before, it's your view of what is actually ''cheaper.'' Remember that some Micro-upgrades will fail, and you will not get any Crystals back. Then there's a chance you might get half of the crystals back- still lost crystals. Then there's the chance that you might get the Crystals back in drugs. Well you can't buy Railgun M2 and such with drugs can you? Still lost crystals. Anyways, true, when you Micro-upgrade, the original price to the next Modification will lower. However, if you stockpile all the crystals spent on Micro-upgrades that failed, the amount of crystals you lost might exceed the amount of Crystals cut in the price to the next Modification.

 

True, there's also the chance you might get 2 in 1, but I'm guessing that it will have the same chance as Daily Crystal Bonus -> Rare. It will come maybe once in 2 days, or a week, or so much. So yep.

[Royalworld 1,269]

Guys.. I was thinking, micro upgrades will be totally useless, because now, game is balanced, everyone has M2-M2 fight or M3-M3 etc..

But when it will be launched, everyone will; after a short time, have his gun and hull upgraded at M2.7 or M3.7. The fight will stay equal and the game balanced, but we will have spend more crystals !

 

I come to the conclusion that this upgrade is just a way for Tanki to make more money on Tanki's buyers - They will have to buy the M + microupgrades and as it will be more expensive to get the M+microupgrades, more players will buy crystals with real money as they will need more crystals to get the same balanced fight.

I know, every gamechanging update(some exceptions) are for money

[Raphael2 3,263]

to me it's sounds like 75 % at min 2:08 in the video, perhabs Semyon could clear this up for us if Vasily said 75% or 70%

Dude, it is 70, even Semyon told it would be sort of M3.7, not M4

[2soon2 3]

so what?

just sayin' :facepalm:

[High 773]

When will it be out?

[semyonkirov 29,038]

 

to me it's sounds like 75 % at min 2:08 in the video, perhabs Semyon could clear this up for us if Vasily said 75% or 70%

It says 75% in the video. So yes, you will be able to upgrade an item up to 75% of the next modification.

[semyonkirov 29,038]

if i start micro upgrading my favrite gun ricochet m1 then log out and come back next day will it be done micro upgrading

The time required for a micro-upgrade depends on the step of micro-upgrade and the modification you improve. So it depends on what you are micro-upgrading.

[already.dead 360]

if 75% of next mod. what will m3 go after then

[TheLegend15 4]

Guys.. I was thinking, micro upgrades will be totally useless, because now, game is balanced, everyone has M2-M2 fight or M3-M3 etc..

But when it will be launched, everyone will; after a short time, have his gun and hull upgraded at M2.7 or M3.7. The fight will stay equal and the game balanced, but we will have spend more crystals !

 

I come to the conclusion that this upgrade is just a way for Tanki to make more money on Tanki's buyers - They will have to buy the M + microupgrades and as it will be more expensive to get the M+microupgrades, more players will buy crystals with real money as they will need more crystals to get the same balanced fight.

Totally Agreed! But of course the Devs need money. Edited June 25, 2013 by TheLegend15

[ShadowyNinja 208]

If you microupgrade Rail M0, you will be able to 1-shot Hornet and Wasp M0.

as a fulltime railgunner i am looking forward to that Edited June 25, 2013 by ShadowyNinja

[KillerXenaRider 10]

as a fulltime railgunner i am looking forward to that

u already can

m1 kills m1 wasp