Let's Discuss Ricochet!

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Ricochet seems stronger than ever.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

57 minutes ago, ghost-guns said:

Ricochet seems stronger than ever.

How so? What makes it seem stronger now? 

[Michael828 816]

Ever since the energy reservoir update a few months back, I legit think this is the most versatile turret in the game. 

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 hours ago, Michael828 said:

Ever since the energy reservoir update a few months back, I legit think this is the most versatile turret in the game. 

 

You need MFS to make it versatile - too  short a range otherwise.  Of course I always play with MFS.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

13 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

You need MFS to make it versatile - too  short a range otherwise.  Of course I always play with MFS.

Have you tried Berserk or Plasma Torch? Do they appeal to you? Or are they too expensive to consider at the moment? 

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Have you tried Berserk or Plasma Torch? Do they appeal to you? Or are they too expensive to consider at the moment? 

Berserk?  Sounds like it's really only useful on light hulls.

 

Plasma torch... now - does that kill more quickly?  If so it might be good with Hunter OD where range is not an issue.

[Michael828 816]

2 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

You need MFS to make it versatile - too  short a range otherwise.  Of course I always play with MFS.

Yes, with its alterations you can pretty much do well in any map. I'm more of a plasma torch user, because the last update it got made it much more suitable for MM.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, Michael828 said:

Yes, with its alterations you can pretty much do well in any map. I'm more of a plasma torch user, because the last update it got made it much more suitable for MM.

What is advantage of plasma torch over stock?

[Michael828 816]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

What is advantage of plasma torch over stock?

Higher DPS

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 minutes ago, Michael828 said:

Higher DPS

Alrighty - sounds like a decent alteration to be used with Hunter.  Too bad sale is over 

 

120k crystals?   Ouch! 

Edited December 31, 2019 by wolverine848

[123tim456back 195]

6 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

You need MFS to make it versatile - too  short a range otherwise.  Of course I always play with MFS.

Really? Personally, I have mfs but I rarely use it.  I prefer the higher dps, the range isn’t as useful for me.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

6 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Berserk?  Sounds like it's really only useful on light hulls.

It's useful in general. As long as you have lots of in-range enemies to shoot at. 

 

6 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Plasma torch... now - does that kill more quickly?  If so it might be good with Hunter OD where range is not an issue.

Technically, yeah. You can ambush stationary enemies and they'll be dead by the time they can properly react. Your ammo supply runs out fast so you'd have to be wary of that. And yeah, I wouldn't buy it off-sale. 

 

3 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Alrighty - sounds like a decent alteration to be used with Hunter.  Too bad sale is over 

I see it used with Hunter almost exclusively. 

[Michael828 816]

6 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Alrighty - sounds like a decent alteration to be used with Hunter.  Too bad sale is over 

 

120k crystals?   Ouch! 

I bought it all full price :'/

[ghost-guns 1,486]

This turret is disgustingly overpowered. 40% protection is doing nothing!

[wolverine848 13,097]

8 minutes ago, ghost-guns said:

This turret is disgustingly overpowered. 40% protection is doing nothing!

versus stock or an alt?  Drone?  Hornet OD?

Riccos have trouble vs heavy hulls that have modules + DA.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

21 minutes ago, ghost-guns said:

This turret is disgustingly overpowered. 40% protection is doing nothing!

It may seem like they have infinite ammo, but realise that they may have used almost all of their ammo on you. They still kill my M4 Titan with 40% protection, but I know that when they're finished, they most likely don't have enough energy to go up against another player with protection. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

10 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

It may seem like they have infinite ammo, but realise that they may have used almost all of their ammo on you. They still kill my M4 Titan with 40% protection, but I know that when they're finished, they most likely don't have enough energy to go up against another player with protection. 

Ricco has 5600 damage "in the pipe"?  Is that what it can do now after it's last update? 

Never feels like that when I use it.  When I run into heavy hulls with that much protection I struggle - often coming out on losing end.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

15 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

versus stock or an alt?  Drone?  Hornet OD?

Riccos have trouble vs heavy hulls that have modules + DA.

Always viking or hunter and yes with a drone, but I'm not sure which one or what they do.

It is frustrating when I have DA and 40% protection and yet my health goes down rapidly.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

13 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Ricco has 5600 damage "in the pipe"?  Is that what it can do now after it's last update? 

Never feels like that when I use it.  When I run into heavy hulls with that much protection I struggle - often coming out on losing end.

They shoot 29 projectiles before running out of ammo. That's 7250 with the average damage. 

Because the heavy has protection and probably DA, the engagement will be longer. They win if they can survive the time it takes to kill the heavy. 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

1 hour ago, ghost-guns said:

This turret is disgustingly overpowered. 40% protection is doing nothing!

 

1 hour ago, TheCongoSpider said:

It may seem like they have infinite ammo, but realise that they may have used almost all of their ammo on you. They still kill my M4 Titan with 40% protection, but I know that when they're finished, they most likely don't have enough energy to go up against another player with protection. 

For me, the most frustrating thing when I come up against this turret is that impact force coupled with its firing rate.

 

The most annoying thing when using it is that it's range is too short.

[tanki_ccc 1]

I don't know what to put with ricochet. Viking's od is op for destroying the juggernaut, but its stability sucks. Dictator has the stability, but its really slow. Hunter is the middle, with a bit of stability, and speed, but I want to know if Hunter is good for battling the juggernaut. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, tanki_ccc said:

I don't know what to put with ricochet. Viking's od is op for destroying the juggernaut, but its stability sucks. Dictator has the stability, but its really slow. Hunter is the middle, with a bit of stability, and speed, but I want to know if Hunter is good for battling the juggernaut. 

Does JUG still have damage reduction - even when stunned?  If so, Ricco will have trouble kiling it before energy runs out.  You'd probably have to have DD on every time to be significant.

As an aside, Ricco works great with Hunter in most other cases - you can kill stunned enemies very quickly.

[tanki_ccc 1]

thanks wolverine848, i will buy hunter instead of viking in the upcoming sales. And maybe also MFS alteration?

Edited April 8, 2020 by tanki_ccc

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

2 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Does JUG still have damage reduction - even when stunned?  

What damage reduction?

[wolverine848 13,097]

42 minutes ago, tanki_ccc said:

thanks wolverine848, i will buy hunter instead of viking in the upcoming sales. And maybe also MFS alteration?

MFS is good if you like to keep your distance some, and you like faster balls - a bit easier to hit moving targets.

I have that and Plasma Torch - which is really good up close on light & medium hulls. Klls faster.  BUT... PT has difficult time with heavys+modules as it recharges much slower.

23 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

What damage reduction?

Thought it had permanent DA or something... or is it just a huge amount of health.

I guess the real question is... can Ricco kill JUG on 1 tank of energy 1) with DD and 2) without DD?

Does Hunter have any effect on JUG besides the 2.2 second stun?