Let's Discuss Shaft!

[r_Drdred1 0]

my teqnece is shaft plus a viking and its extermly powerful thats what i like about it

 

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

Mammoth and shaft always beats viking/hornet with shaft. I know from experience because those combos that have fought me have all suffered and they have never been able to kill me or any other players as well as my combo. Yes they might be faster but they are too weak and can't sustain alot of damage to fight my mammoth and shaft or any other high powered combination. Actually, they can't really fight anything and survive in direct contact at all! Why? Because you can't move in scope mode, so if someone finds you you're toast. Trust me, hornet and viking don't work as well as mammoth or titan.You need a heavy tank. 

 

...anyway I was going to write a guide for M1 shaft but now it's so easy to use I'm not going to bother, unless anyone wants me to. 

Edited May 1, 2014 by ERADICATIONNATION

[themaster360 11]

Mammoth and shaft always beats viking/hornet with shaft. I know from experience because those combos that have fought me have all suffered and they have never been able to kill me or any other players as well as my combo. Yes they might be faster but they are too weak and can't sustain alot of damage to fight my mammoth and shaft or any other high powered combination. Actually, they can't really fight anything and survive in direct contact at all! Why? Because you can't move in scope mode, so if someone finds you you're toast. Trust me, hornet and viking don't work as well as mammoth or titan.You need a heavy tank. 

 

...anyway I was going to write a guide for M1 shaft but now it's so easy to use I'm not going to bother, unless anyone wants me to. 

Did you get your M2 Shaft yet? And problem with Mammoth/Titan is the big target you become. All the Railguns will be able to hit you much more easily and you won't be able to run away from Light hulls.

Edited May 2, 2014 by themaster360

[gazatron30 513]

Sorry, meant for TDM.  Don't play much CTF with my Titan/Shaft combo!

In TDM, you get points for partially damaging enemies as well. An unassisted kill is 10 points, while if 2+ players split the kill, 15 points are divided between them. The other guy on your team may have been damaging enemies a lot, but not killing them. So, he still got points. You on the other hand, were probably getting a lit of unassisted kills with that shaft, 10 points each. So you ended up with a lower score than him.

[marcoagf 47]

Shaft destroying enough enemies; but in return was hampered get crystals and capture the flag; in small maps was easy target for any weapon. 

 

With the game faster; without power to kill anyone with one shot; have to be exposed to load; becomes an easy target. 

 

Now shaft is the worst weapon in the game, on most maps is a waste of time to enter

[marcoagf 47]

R.i.P

 

[Rubberduck4106 0]

 

 

Who chooses to play with Shaft ; gives up to grab the crystals and the flag , in order to destroy more opponents ( this was compensation ).

 

 

 

You make an excellent point here.  Because we hide in the weeds with slow hulls (so we can absorb multiple hits), running for any drops (not just crystals) is not part of our game, lest we give away our hidden position!

[marcoagf 47]

Everyone talks in balance 

But the real charm of the game is the imbalance 

 

What is the balance that exists in a Freeze near a Shaft? 

Because Shaft has to be balanced with a Freeze in long distance? 

 

Shaft is horrible to be destroyed by a Freeze surrounding you; but is glorious destroy a freezy with sniper

If freeze can destroy me easily when this close to me, I want to destroy easily freeze this in my sights; That would be just.

Edited May 2, 2014 by marcoagf

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

Did you get your M2 Shaft yet? And problem with Mammoth/Titan is the big target you become. All the Railguns will be able to hit you much more easily and you won't be able to run away from Light hulls.

Yes I got M2 shaft :lol: it's so fun to use!

 

Anyway, unless there is a wall or something to hide behind there really is no escape from being hit from those rail guns and shafts, regardless of what hull you use. Plus, you can't move while in scope mode, so you're bound to get hit which is why you need something that can take a decent damage. And now shaft has a decent rotation speed so light hulls aren't much of a problem anymore unless they have freeze. 

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

 

The problem is not wanting Shaft destroy all in one shot ; Who wants to defend shaft wore the paint .

each weapon has a characteristic , the power of Shaft was the power to destroy most of the long distance ; always been totally ineffective in the short distance . places where Shaft is known by all ; that was the game ; if you miss the shot turned easy target . So there are many Shaft fighting each other for space in the woods "lost temple" and no shaft in "sandbox". 

If there were true balance, shaft could play on any map 

The real charm of the game is the desiqulibrio exists in every situation. 

Imbalance in favor of shaft in long distance; and harmful imbalance to Shaft in short distances 

Shaft was always powerless against Raigun , Isida , Fire, freeze and Thunder at short distance ( was quite good as well ) .

The problem now is that Shaft does not destroy anyone else with a shot at long distance to the target is not already broken ; but long distance weapon is usually the first shot.

Programmers are just looking at the power of the shot , forgot to other features of the game ; improved turret rotation and quick shot at close range ; but that means nothing to the strategy of Shaft ; much worse when diminished the power of the shot Sniper

Who chooses to play with Shaft ; gives up to grab the crystals and the flag , in order to destroy more opponents ( this was compensation ).

 

All weapons want an upgrade on your device 

Who REALLY loves playing Shaft; can not agree that Shaft is nerfed. 

Only raigun says: Shaft this good. 

Those silent and consent; playing against  

 

I never really had any problems with the turrets you listed, especially rail gun, which happens to be a piece of overrated crap. Just ask all of the rail guns that have suffered me without actually being able to kill me. I do not think shaft is nerfed completely, and instead think that shaft is more versatile now. Arcade mode once again has a purpose, and the new rotation speed lets shaft fight in closer ranges, although I agree shaft will still struggle in places like island. It's not really OP in long range situations because its damage has been lowered like 20 HP points and not under-powered in mid to close range situations either. Shaft can still destroy alot of opponents, and I can still make the top of the winning team just by sniping the enemy flag carriers. I make plenty of crystals this way, too. 

                     Bottom line: shaft is not dead, but actually quite opposite for those who use nothing but shaft (*ahem*, me)...

[ll.SILVER.ll 456]

What is the balance that exists in a Freeze near a Shaft? 

Shaft is horrible to be destroyed by a Freeze surrounding you; but is glorious destroy a freezy with sniper

First of all you are comparing between a short range and an unlimited range weapon which have a total different style of gameplay cause of the vast difference in range

 

Freeze might have the upper hand in small distances but still you can try to shoot him with arcade mode whereas if the distance is increased then the Freeze

is helpless so he can't possibly do anything and has no choice but getting sniped by you and that is a huge advantage to you, now that case is different if you

purposely go in front of a freeze trying to kill it in close combat. After all shaft was meant to be the sniper as said by yourself

 

And btw It's not only shaft that get's destroyed easily by a freeze, you ever saw a rail beating a Freeze face to face?

In fact a Freeze can kill any tank regardless their weapon if the freeze effect is used properly

[marcoagf 47]

I never really had any problems with the turrets you listed

For a genius like you all may be great

talking ; even a parrot talks .

Disparage the opponent , is just immaturity

If I want to stay hidden in a hole , sucking the team and hoping someone go in front also have no problem with anyone.

If I want to just get crystal, also no problem ; just leave the team. but this is the problem ;

I not only play Stadium , Lost Temple and Monte Carlo ; I play on maps that no other Shaft plays , including Island .

Only game with Shaft ; I have D / L high on most maps (until 90:1) , but that does not stop wanting to improve my equipment.

Wanting to participate in other parts of the game; 3000 crystal gold you've picked up? 

Today I took 2

Edited May 2, 2014 by marcoagf

[marcoagf 47]

First of all you are comparing between a short range and an unlimited range weapon which have a total different style of gameplay cause of the vast difference in range

 

In fact a Freeze can kill any tank regardless their weapon if the freeze effect is used properly

But that's exactly what I'm writing 

 

I'm not asking to be nerfed freeze in short distance 

I am asking for the power shaft in long distance 

which was his characteristic 

 

Edited May 2, 2014 by marcoagf

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

 

For a genius like you all may be great

talking ; even a parrot talks .

Disparage the opponent , is just immaturity

If I want to stay hidden in a hole , sucking the team and hoping someone go in front also have no problem with anyone.

If I want to just get crystal, also no problem ; just leave the team. but this is the problem ;

I not only play Stadium , Lost Temple and Monte Carlo ; I play on maps that no other Shaft plays , including Island .

Only game with Shaft ; I have D / L high on most maps (until 90:1) , but that does not stop wanting to improve my equipment.

Wanting to participate in other parts of the game; 3000 crystal gold you've picked up? 

Today I took 2

 

OK....your article is just a big run-on sentence. It's hard for me to try to get your point. First you say that shaft is dead and whatever in your earlier posts, and now you are saying that you are just so amazing with it. If you are so amazing, then why do you say it sucks? Its a paradox. And who needs gold boxes if there is a high battle fund and I'm in first place? Why would I waste my drugs, time, and life on 1000 (in this case 3000) mere crystals? I play for mostly XP and really don't give a crap about crystal boxes if there is a good battle fund to be divided. 

 

Another thing: If you want a high powered long range shaft, then why do you play close range battles? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of your desire? Please learn how to write, because you're doing nothing but confusing me.

 

Also your opening lines make no sense and don't rhyme, if you're trying to be a little poet. And sucking the team? WTF is that supposed to mean? I help my team by killing flags and defenders that my team can't. Derp. That is what shaft is for. It isn't supposed to go to close range maps just as freeze isn't very good in huge maps. Get what I'm saying or are you going to keep trying to write a proper point?

Edited May 2, 2014 by ERADICATIONNATION

[marcoagf 47]

OK....your article is just a big run-on sentence. It's hard for me to try to get your point. First you say that shaft is dead and whatever in your earlier posts, and now you are saying that you are just so amazing with it. If you are so amazing, then why do you say it sucks? Its a paradox. And who needs gold boxes if there is a high battle fund and I'm in first place? Why would I waste my drugs, time, and life on 1000 (in this case 3000) mere crystals? I play for mostly XP and really don't give a crap about crystal boxes if there is a good battle fund to be divided. 

 

Another thing: If you want a high powered long range shaft, then why do you play close range battles? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of your desire? Please learn how to write, because you're doing nothing but confusing me.

 

Also your opening lines make no sense and don't rhyme, if you're trying to be a little poet. And sucking the team? WTF is that supposed to mean? I help my team by killing flags and defenders that my team can't. Derp. That is what shaft is for. It isn't supposed to go to close range maps just as freeze isn't very good in huge maps. Get what I'm saying or are you going to keep trying to write a proper point?

Write very well in my language, unfortunately the forum is in English; Give credit to the google translator. 

 

Do not want to confuse you, do not know how long you play with shaft 

Formerly also played only on defense with Mammoth Shaft and unfortunately after nerfer the Mammoth Shaft and needed to change my tactics and game today with average hull as playing raigun am more successful but I like least. If you like to play as raigun, would raigun up. I have to move around all the time 

 

Another thing, do not use drugs (only those caught in the game). This is another side of the problem; I have to play with other players full of drugs, the only way to win is to move and predict the reaction of the opponent 

Make many points, grab many crystals is a consequence; but above all, this game was supposed to be fun. 

 

Liked more the old Shaft. 

Not always what you do well, it's what you enjoy doing 

Increasingly Shaft is losing power, that's too bad, now nerf 20 more 

 

One thing you need to understand when you play on many maps with generals, people are more experienced; a stationary Shaft losing a shot is a dead Shaft. 

 

Another thing you still do not understand, I'm not complaining Shaft, I'm complaining about the criteria adopted to reduce the power of the sniper. 

it is leaving the lower shaft that was 

When I write that died Shaft ; I mean the old Shaft died 

This current Shaft, is another

Edited May 3, 2014 by marcoagf

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

hhh

[Pow12345678 12]

i did not know that you took that picture buggati :)

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

kk,when is the video of the week revealed? :ph34r:

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

 

Write very well in my language, unfortunately the forum is in English; Give credit to the google translator. 

 

Do not want to confuse you, do not know how long you play with shaft 

Formerly also played only on defense with Mammoth Shaft and unfortunately after nerfer the Mammoth Shaft and needed to change my tactics and game today with average hull as playing raigun am more successful but I like least. If you like to play as raigun, would raigun up. I have to move around all the time 

 

Another thing, do not use drugs (only those caught in the game). This is another side of the problem; I have to play with other players full of drugs, the only way to win is to move and predict the reaction of the opponent 

Make many points, grab many crystals is a consequence; but above all, this game was supposed to be fun. 

 

Liked more the old Shaft. 

Not always what you do well, it's what you enjoy doing 

Increasingly Shaft is losing power, that's too bad, now nerf 20 more 

 

One thing you need to understand when you play on many maps with generals, people are more experienced; a stationary Shaft losing a shot is a dead Shaft. 

 

Another thing you still do not understand, I'm not complaining Shaft, I'm complaining about the criteria adopted to reduce the power of the sniper. 

it is leaving the lower shaft that was 

When I write that died Shaft ; I mean the old Shaft died 

This current Shaft, is another

 

Oh, I didn't know you spoke another language. Sorry...

 

Honestly I have always believed that shaft beats rail gun no matter what and I still do. My rail gun has not been touched since I was a Sargent and I'm not planning on using it ever again. Actually, I despise rail gun. Ever since I ditched rail gun I have used nothing but shaft; It's been to every battle I have been in since I got rid of using rail gun. That was about 10-11 months ago out of the year I have been playing this. The Mammoth hull has always been my counterpart even before I used shaft, and I'm too used to it to change to any other hull. 

 

The Mammoth/Shaft combination has always worked for me and continues to work even if I face generals. it might not work for you, but it still works for me.

Edited May 3, 2014 by ERADICATIONNATION

[Pow12345678 12]

i have to edit it littlebit because i was talking to my friend in skype and you can hear our sounds..

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

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[GMG4LIFE 1]

hey watch this guys like and sub please it would help great. 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTZs91-N_2o

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

cool

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

But DM is a very wrong place for a shaft user,a lot of struggle to find a sniping place!!!

[Pow12345678 12]

ill get it done today buggati so tomorow when they show the results we will see