Let's Discuss Shaft!

[DEVASTATORSNS 5]

Shaft controls are working fine on my end for some reason. I'm using Firefox, maybe that has something to do with it.

im also using Firefox but my one is totally messed up.

[dardayy 493]

Shaft in snipe mode was supposed to move accurately with the mouse, just like with other games when they reduce the side mouse moves to match with the rotational speed of any weapon, and you can control how fast you can rotate around your character by changing the mouse sensitivity

Of course i am not assuming that shaft must be moving as fast as mouse can go, that may break the actual speed, but to make the mouse moves to match with that one of shaft.. otherwise its laggy, however it may requires some patience until people and players will get used to this delay in aiming .. beside if they add some auto aim to shaft would be much better to bring back the reputation to this dying gun ..

[kayitsiz 621]

Maybe we should look at from a good side. 

Shaft needs as skill as no one can use  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[marcoagf 47]

RIP Shaft

The genius Developers Tanki managed to expel many players.

Began to kill Shaft, when decreased their firepower, then with the Laser decreed his death, now with this update was the funeral.

Edited April 10, 2015 by marcoagf

[Kid95 67]

i was refering to the last part , the last part of his post destroys all he said till then , maybe he was right , maybe no , i won't give my oppinion about it , but the last part has nothing to do with the " discuss shaft " is more like trying to show that he is better than others , look:

"Noobs always exist wherever you are. With short range turrets, you see them with Hammer and Firebird. With mid range, they normally use Rico or Twins. Shaft isn't the only turret they use, it's just that a noob is more noticed when he uses a Shaft because of it's damage dealing aspect."

let me analise the text for you:

" noobs always exist" well let's accept this as a fact

 

" wherever you are" this already is a directly offense , if you are home with your family for example , if we take this proposition as a true one it mean you have a noob person in the family --> offense , i repeat he said "wherever" this exits tanki area.

 

"with short range turrets" this my friend is a judgment on players allover tanki , and can easily be seen as an offense 

 

" you see them with Hammer and firebird" see ? the judgment of him goes even farther putting the players with hammer and firebird in category of noobs , what if a noob uses isida ? then is not noob any more ?...

 

"with mid range , they normally use rico and twins " who are these "they" ? the noobs ? then all the players who uses rico are noobs ... an other judgement 

 

"Shaft isn't the only turret they use, it's just that a noob is more noticed when he uses a Shaft because of it's damage dealing aspect" is needed to continue my way of analise on this last proposition as well ? ..

 

 

so in final , the last part of his post destroys what he said , he went down ( for me at least ) by saying that last part , think that make me not to take in consideration the rest of his post , now you understood what i meant ?

Well, not really. If you didn't look at it that way, that's not what I meant. First of all, I'm terribly against offending one's family (I'd go as far as knocking someones teeth out if I didn't know them and they did that sort of thing). And second, I never really referred to every Rico, Firebird, Twins and Hammer player as a noob. I've seen good players using those turrets well and I've also seen more players using them wrong (although Rico is an exception to that statement) 

 

Oh, and yes, I do actually appreciate how Ricochet works it's way through in a battle as times. I've never used that turret in a long time, but it's a very annoying an interesting turret that can have it's way if it wishes.

 

No turret can be considered a noob turret. You can have noobs but not noob turrets in this game.

 

And finally, if you do like, you could go ahead and criticise the last part of my comment. I don't mind, really. In the end it only clears up any misunderstanding, if any:)

Edited April 11, 2015 by Kid95

[Loackie 269]

automatically trigger full-screen

sounds intentional to me. Mouse controls works 100x better in fullscreen even though mouse controls are terrible in the first place.

[Kid95 67]

I upgraded to Digital paint because railguns are more numerous than enemy shafts, and that paint don't help at Damage x 2 :(

Haha yeah you're right brother, but in the end I've mostly concentrated on getting enemy Shafters out of the way, and Dirty has saved me quite a few times from getting one shotted by an m2 shaft. I find railguns slightly more easier to deal with, although there's scores of them. 

[Strawwitz 86]

Haha yeah you're right brother, but in the end I've mostly concentrated on getting enemy Shafters out of the way, and Dirty has saved me quite a few times from getting one shotted by an m2 shaft. I find railguns slightly more easier to deal with, although there's scores of them. 

Dirty is the best paint in the game for a long time, particularly because it has the best shaft protection in game , until you can buy winter for 100K at Lt. Col. -and that is a long time.

 

Dirty also makes you "invisible" behind/in a few bushes , sometime even one bush. So it makes a good paint to camouflage yourself when using shaft, if the you play on maps with natural cover.

Edited April 11, 2015 by Strawwitz

[Kid95 67]

Dirty is the best paint in the game for a long time, particularly because it has the best shaft protection in game , until you can buy winter for 100K at Lt. Col. -and that is a long time.

 

Dirty also makes you "invisible" behind/in a few bushes , sometime even one bush. So it makes a good paint to camouflage yourself when using shaft, if the you play on maps with natural cover.

Not planning on getting Winter for now, and probably even at Lt. Col. And you speak my thoughts to the point in that comment not just because of why I use it but also because I've been eyeing Winter as well:)

 

Dirty is pretty good for camo, and I'm planning on sticking to it for a very long time, since my battles are mostly against Shafts. While Digital also helps you blend in, it reduces your tanks protection from Shaft if you're a former Dirty user. 

[Kid95 67]

What has happened to the Shaft controls????

 

I was playing Tanki for the first time after mouse controls have been implemented and I cannot use the keyboard buttons properly. Sometimes my turret continues rotating without me pressing a button. In other cases, I go into sniping mode and the turret points downwards or upwards automatically against my will. I just messed up one game because of that. Anyone facing this? So not cool!>:(

[Amagi 1,728]

Shaft is still broken.

Worst update of 2015.

Edited April 11, 2015 by Stinger911

[Loackie 269]

Shaft is still broken.

Worst update of 2015.

But then I can play on my alt no worries soooooo

[Longcat970 119]

Going mouse controls, fullscreen /w maxed battle window fixes the offset crosshairs. Although since my monitor is massive, it gets a little disorienting to play.
Aside from that, shaft in mouse controls looks pretty good actually, there's now a sort of gyroscoping effect alongside being able to pan the camera around faster to look for incoming enemies. Just have to watch the crosshair's position as it moves to the cursor.
 

[M1-A2 840]

 

Erm,Yeah, whatever, but you aint seeing nub shafter's here :)

Most of us have invested a lot of time in shaft and aint campers (I dunno about M1 but)

 

Stinger is usually like

( I dont remember his paint)

I cant see why should someone camp with that...

 

 

Kayitsiz is

And I have seen him to much to know he doesnt camp,

 

Finally, Me, I when still used my shaft ( Ill get back to it when I get it M3)

was like

which with its amount of health I hardly camped with and was mostly on the move .-.

 

Not any of your nub shafters here...

 

shaft and Viking M2 with corrosion.

I'll camp if I need to. But i follow a snipers creed. Never fire more than two shots from the same position.

I shoot twice and move. (Unless I absolutely have to fire more).

 

Also, this mouse update has absolutely trashed shaft. (I know we've gone over this but I felt like putting in my two cents)

Even using keys it drops or rises or generally doesn't work. I tried using shaft a few times after the update. Was really hoping to try out mouse controls with it. Unfortunately it's broken so that's out.

Edited April 11, 2015 by M1-A2

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

I'm a thunder guy too. However, the generalization that shaft is nooby is rather uncalled for.

You know what my primary long range turret is? Do you know what turret single handedly got me from Master Corporal all the way through Lieutenant Colonel? You guessed it.

 

Not railgun

 

 

Now you might be thinking: "big whoop. Easy to use weapon got you to Lieutenant colonel. It's still a noob weapon."

That's where you go wrong. I made my shaft career in the time where the scope moved around and there was no laser.

I'll follow this up with a list of things shaft players must do.

1) find a sniping spot. Not always easy. But you need to find a good spot or spots to effectively support your team. This forces to use forward thinking skills to determine routes of entry into your base, potential choke points, and cover.

Now this is something that a lot of turrets need to consider as well, but not all of them cover as many bases as a shaft.

 

2) keep an "Eagles eye" on the battlefield. This entails keeping tabs on not only enemy tanks, but also your team and yourself. You need to be aware of your surroundings so you don't get caught from behind. You also need to determine enemy weak spots, so you can target specific areas for your teammates to break through. Not only that, but you need to watch enemy defenders and take them out to help your team. Additionally, you need to scan for enemy attackers and knock them out to protect your base. On top of that, you need to watch all of your teammates so you can cover them as they make the attack on the enemy base, ensuring that they get there with the most health possible.

Now at this point, you might be thinking: "Great any turret can do that." In response, I'll say sure they could do that, but do they NEED to do that. The answer is no. Now the turrets that Need to do this is down to your midfield to long range guns. Smoky, thunder, vulcan, railgun, and shaft. You can narrow this list down further by looking at the turrets that have a high damage per shot. This eliminates all but rail and shaft. The reason I took out Vulcan is because it can sustain damage, but it deals large damage over time. Time that is easy in which to punch a med kit or have an isida heal the tank.

So now we're down to rail and shaft. Both have high damage, range, and require you to look at the battlefield as a whole. This is where shaft wins. It has the scope to allow you to be more effective when taking out defenders. Not only that, but because you can't move while in scope mode, you need to be MORE aware of your surroundings. With a rail, all you have to do is move away when a threat comes. With shaft, you need to be aware of tanks that could be coming. Going back a bit, you need to keep tabs on all your enemies. Rail doesn't have to do that. All you need is to focus mainly on what's in front of you. Yes, you need to watch around you too, but it is much easier to do that with rail than it is shaft. That all being said, it's starting to look like shaft forces you to use more tactics and planning skills than railgun does.

I'll wrap this up by saying this: people consider railgun the real "pro's weapon" because it can be used in a wide variety of settings. They say shaft is a weapon for "noobs" because it is limited in where it can play. Because of the way shaft is, you can't play on certain maps effectively. However, this does not change the fact that to use shaft, you need more skills than your average player. You need more thinking skills than when you use firebird or freeze. You need to plan your shots carefully, and be more precise than railgun. You need to watch over the whole battlefield. Most other turrets don't have to do that. Shaft may be an easy weapon to use. But then again, so are all the turrets. What sets weapons apart is using them effectively. Simply put, you need a heck of a lot more thinking skills to use shaft effectively than you do with most other weapons. Mot so much for aiming, I'll give you that, but when it come to a test of the brain, shaft is where it's at.

My name is FogOfWar_XXX and I approve this message.

 

(Brought to you by the Council Of Players That Are The Real Game Makers and Breakers (why?  Because I take first place in CTF, w/Shaft))

[caproz 61]

People consider shaft a noob weapon because it is strong. It is the damned one shot/ one kill that makes people angry! ;D I think it is a good defensive weapon, but rarely (indipendently of the score you can see pressing "tab") it makes the difference in a match. It makes it if the shaft know what he must do in the map (skill) and it doesn't just stay in a comfortable place camping and killing undangerous targets.

[sackpilot 9]

What has happened to the Shaft controls????

 

I was playing Tanki for the first time after mouse controls have been implemented and I cannot use the keyboard buttons properly. Sometimes my turret continues rotating without me pressing a button. In other cases, I go into sniping mode and the turret points downwards or upwards automatically against my will. I just messed up one game because of that. Anyone facing this? So not cool!>:(

I alsohad his problem, I had to press the key in diretion the shaft started turning to stop it. Kind of annoying but i might switch to mouse controls when using shaft cus they are kinda nifty.

[Loackie 269]

(Brought to you by the Council Of Players That Are The Real Game Makers and Breakers (why?  Because I take first place in CTF, w/Shaft))

Which maps in CTF?

[DEVASTATORSNS 5]

What has happened to the Shaft controls????

 

I was playing Tanki for the first time after mouse controls have been implemented and I cannot use the keyboard buttons properly. Sometimes my turret continues rotating without me pressing a button. In other cases, I go into sniping mode and the turret points downwards or upwards automatically against my will. I just messed up one game because of that. Anyone facing this? So not cool!> :(

im facing the same problems.but thers a soultion.i dont know whether itll work for ur one.but, play in full screen mode.also every time u fire a shot til it reloads just use the mouse and click on ur tank.This certainly helpd me>

[justin_the_prosurfer 1,116]

something is wrong , when I aim with shaft in scope mod ,it points up and moves by itself , is my keyboard damage or really its a game tech problem ?

 

 

pls tell me so ik not to get it m3

[AeonAlpha 0]

My shaft scope is still looking for birds in the trees, up left, and no chance I can move it from there. After the last update, the oen with mouse control, shaft sope is going lullaby. WHEN DO YOU FIX IT ????????????

[justin_the_prosurfer 1,116]

best shaft combos to me :

 

wasp + shaft  + 38 anti shaft to survive another shaft shot

shaft + hornet + atleast 30anti shaft to survive another shaft shot

hunter + shaft = for defense , faction fights , supporting assaults

Viking + shaft = camping

titan + shaft = for more mobility mammoth

shaft + mammoth = defense

shaft + dictator = I recommend good camo otherwise your the biggest target in battle

 

to me I rather medium hulls ...

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

My shaft scope is still looking for birds in the trees, up left, and no chance I can move it from there. After the last update, the oen with mouse control, shaft sope is going lullaby. WHEN DO YOU FIX IT ????????????

The devs said that they're working on bug fixing right now. Getting rid of bugs can be pretty hard work, and it's not easy to predict when all of them will be squashed. I just hope that time will be sooner rather than later.

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Hmm I've none, and the scope is moving smoother on the standalone flash player, have you tried that? 

[pizzaslad 471]

Hope the devs will stop working on uncalled for updates as well