Let's Discuss Shaft!

[dfoofnik 341]

You won't be laughing once there are 3-4 Shafts pointing at all entrances .. . happened in one Silence battle I was in. Nobody could capture anything! :lol:

You mean until it points toward the sky? I still have the same problems: spinning and pointing up uncommanded. You would think that since the devs "broke" it they would spend a little more time trying to fix it. It always seems to happen when you really NEED to make a shot after respawning...and can't because of the stupid change. Could we try removing Mouse Controls just from shaft since practically no one is using them??

[kayitsiz 621]

You mean until it points toward the sky? I still have the same problems: spinning and pointing up uncommanded. You would think that since the devs "broke" it they would spend a little more time trying to fix it. It always seems to happen when you really NEED to make a shot after respawning...and can't because of the stupid change. Could we try removing Mouse Controls just from shaft since practically no one is using them??

It was already for shaft, mostly

[kayitsiz 621]

Expensive MUs :( Okay, now everythink is more clear but mone crystals will be needed  :(
 
By the way against a "rock" shafter and great team.
Until last minute, was 1-1  :lol:

By the way a battle with a friend 

 

 

 

Edited May 24, 2015 by kayitsiz

[danny53_the_crazy 1]

Expensive MUs :( Okay, now everythink is more clear but mone crystals will be needed :(

 

By the way against a "rock" shafter and great team.

Until last minute, was 1-1 :lol:

 

 

congrats :D

[Amagi 1,728]

Noob drugging ftw.

[danny53_the_crazy 1]

Noob drugging ftw.

what does ftw mean?

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

what does ftw mean?

for the win :)

[kayitsiz 621]

what does ftw mean?

 

 

for the win :)

Yes, because his oppoennt was very good 

[xeon-xxx 7]

Rail is way better, though if ur close to ranking, use shaft for gurantteed cry and points. (ESPICIALLY IN NOOB RANKS LIKE MINE) xDDDDD

[ThunderM20 25]

Shaft:

- Slow reload

+ Best range

+ Sniper mode

+ Good Impact Force

+ Laser

Rating: 92% ... Extreme Good!

[dataDyne 24]

+ Laser

 

That's a disadvantage.

[Longcat970 119]

Could we try removing Mouse Controls just from shaft since practically no one is using them??

I use mouse controls and keyboard interchangeably for shaft... Haven't had any problems with rotation since about a week from the update.

[HaloScorpionV2 438]

Uhh so what can Shaft m3 kill full power with DP?

[kayitsiz 621]

Uhh so what can Shaft m3 kill full power with DP?

Without paint:

 

Everythink M3

Until Dictator M4(Dictator M4 included)

 

Paints can change of course...

 

%16 protection saves Dictator M4, for example

[danny53_the_crazy 1]

Rail is way better, though if ur close to ranking, use shaft for gurantteed cry and points. (ESPICIALLY IN NOOB RANKS LIKE MINE) xDDDDD

yep i agree whit u, i can t wait for day 4 to buy m1 hornet and m1 rail.

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

 

You mean until it points toward the sky?

You made me laugh when I had no reason up until that point, +1 for you. Yes, I agree whole heartedly that this issue remains a rather unplesant, and seemingly timed occurence, usually the WORST time, mind you, to have the barrel decide to go bird watching without your consent. The other player is right though, 5 or 6 shafts on a team that has an otherwise aggresive make up of other players is nearly undefeatable, so long as the shafts are good too.

 

Your point, I have to simply applaude, because I can nearly see your jaded face dismissively mouthing that comment you typed while taking a swig of some bitter drink. It's annoying as hell.

 

Speaking of guarding entrances, talk about a royal pain, shaft on shaft, you trying to clear a path for the flag runners and some big chunky hulled shaft pointing back at you with a ISIDIA behind it, short of finding a DP and a DA lying around, full charging, and dropping a bomb on that unit, it simply CANNOT be dislodged. I played one either yesterday or the day before, three shafts, two isidias, NO FLAGS for our team, and heaven knows they were trying, but those shafts were damn near indestructible. In fact, since DA's nearly fell close to my position, I had to pray for a DP, pick it up, and wait for my team to engage at close range, distract them, and then I could drop a round on them, only times I could pick them off.

 

So for all the "noob" sayers, yeah, laugh all you want, and post your stupid looping gif, you don't do that when five of those things are hanging around, of this I'm certain.

 

 

what does ftw mean?

Danny, I fear there are those trying to shelter you from the lowliness and pettiness of the world that surrounds you. While the effort is noble, and very well in intentioned, if you are going to live among those people, you need to know what they are really saying, not to emulate them mind you, but to know who you are dealing with.

 

Thus I shall be the bad person that does away with a touch of innocence and explain a few things to you.

 

First off, babies, where they come from. I'll keep it short. There are these birds, called storks, and in the divine creator's wisdom, he purposed them to live among mankind and help deliver new generations of men and women since time eternal. This of course means the babies are brought to the door steps of homes upon purist white wings, as unblemished as the soul of the tender child joining the new family it will soon come to call it's own. Those wings that carry that child, they fly, that's wings do, thus, the "F" in "ftw" is really fly. People fly to have children, and one day you too will find someone to fly with. You will love flying. Flying is like nothing else in this world, and once you fly, you will want to fly often. Of course, when the stork sees you flying, there is a good chance they will in turn fly you a child, and then you will have to tend to that child, thus, while flying is of great interest to most, one should use caution when flying with one's partner, lest you make a mistake that alters your life forever, and leaves wishing you had not flown with abandon. Not to say you will not want to fly one day to have children of your own, it is quite likely one day both you, and the one you are flying with, will WANT to fly into the company of storks, but parenting and raising a child is no easy task, so when you do start flying, always keep in mind that a stork MIGHT see you, and if they do, you might end up with a child, and then everything changes. Protect yourself when flying and only fly with people you trust, that you know are responsible, and won't attract the undue attention of storks.

 

As for the rest of the letters "tw", well, it is a way of saying if you are IRRESPONSIBLE, you will be attracting, or have witnessed the attraction of another person, of the storks of the world, and you/another will be forced to endure the consequences, perhaps being inundated with the deliveries of the storks and have to suffer the huge burdens of what all those deliveries mean. So "tw" mean "the world", and as such, "fly the world" basically means the whole world should be burdened for their irresponsible behavior, a sort of curse. It's not very polite or nice, though it's not the worst thing one could say, but still very unpleasant and you'd do well to abstain from saying it.

 

I hope this helps and good luck.

 

 

 

Maybe I softened the blow by making a few very obtuse analogies, but that said, no matter what anyone says about this later in this thread, the fact of the matter is you are in fact being told the truth, simply in a VERY POLITE and MEASURED fashion, minus the birds. The birds are a necessary illusion to remain polite and not be rude, but trust me, the birds and babies are real, the only thing here that might be a bit of literary license is the actions the birds take. As I said, rest assured that the end message you got though is spot on, and you now know what "ftw" means, or what it is really trying to say.

 

 

Edited May 30, 2015 by falcosenna1

[kayitsiz 621]

You made me laugh when I had no reason up until that point, +1 for you.  Yes, I agree whole heartedly that this issue remains a rather unplesant, and seemingly timed occurence, usually the WORST time, mind you, to have the barrel decide to go bird watching without your consent.  The other player is right though, 5 or 6 shafts on a team that has an otherwise aggresive make up of other players is nearly undefeatable, so long as the shafts are good too.

 

Your point, I have to simply applaude, because I can nearly see your jaded face dismissively mouthing that comment you typed while taking a swig of some bitter drink.  It's annoying as hell.

 

Speaking of guarding entrances, talk about a royal pain, shaft on shaft, you trying to clear a path for the flag runners and some big chunky hulled shaft pointing back at you with a ISIDIA behind it, short of finding a DP and a DA lying around, full charging, and dropping a bomb on that unit, it simply CANNOT be dislodged.  I played one either yesterday or the day before, three shafts, two isidias, NO FLAGS for our team, and heaven knows they were trying, but those shafts were damn near indestructible.  In fact, since DA's nearly fell close to my position, I had to pray for a DP, pick it up, and wait for my team to engage at close range, distract them, and then I could drop a round on them, only times I could pick them off.

 

So for all the "noob" sayers, yeah, laugh all you want, and post your stupid looping gif, you don't do that when five of those things are hanging around, of this I'm certain.

But for this, shafters at least have to have avarage knowledge and ability and equipment.

One avarage-gppd shafter can prevent 3 newbie shafters easily, and still can help their teammaates.

A shafter who just trying to block other shafters can be successful.

 

This is extremely rare to find 3 avarage-good shafters on one team. But once... not that hard

Edited May 29, 2015 by kayitsiz

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

But for this, shafters at least have to have avarage knowledge and ability and equipment.

One avarage-gppd shafter can prevent 3 newbie shafters easily, and still can help their teammaates.

A shafter who just trying to block other shafters can be successful.

 

This is extremely rare to find 3 avarage-good shafters on one team. But once... not that hard

I'm guessing these guys REALLY did have experience, they were good, and they had expensive shafts, M2s and probably some MU, the reloads on them were REALLY fast.  It's darn Isidias behind them that were the problem.  Tried sniping those first, but by the time I could a got off at one of them after killing the isdias, at least one was back and healing them again, SO FRUSTRATING.

[Strawwitz 86]

I'm guessing these guys REALLY did have experience, they were good, and they had expensive shafts, M2s and probably some MU, the reloads on them were REALLY fast.  It's darn Isidias behind them that were the problem.  Tried sniping those first, but by the time I could a got off at one of them after killing the isdias, at least one was back and healing them again, SO FRUSTRATING.

At your rank, don't be fighting Majors with M2 shafts. Find lower rank battles to avoid this "frustration". Also if you see good Isida support , odds are, you are dealing with a pre-configured team, avoid those battles too, to lower your "frustration". 

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Well, the quoting of the word "frustration" in your posts tells me you are of inclination to find it distasteful that I would complain. Make no mistake, I ADMIRE the cooperation and team work, and frankly, I find it a challenge worth undertaking, I just wish I could do better given the lot of my equipment, for skill is not something I believe I lack. I am happy to say that they were most certainly NOT drugging, at least what I could discern (I was too far to see the ornaments), and they were dispatched on occasion by base raiders, thus no super shields or health packs being used prodigiously or constantly.

 

This brings up an excellent point, the idea of ranks and classification and the notion that a cubby hole is of import when seeking niche to play. First, let me start off by saying I'm better than most at my rank in a shaft, period, end of story, no discussion. Two, I don't skype, I don't have a circle of friends I play Tanki with, and in fact there is only one other person to date I have ever consistently ever teamed up with. Three, being a shaft, I tend to adapt to the teams game play, but only as much as it makes sense to. There is no reason to go find games with "your" rank predominantly, if skill is your only concern. Shafts rank MUCH slower than most, we earn less than most, thus we have been playing more than most people at our rank, and we have a completely different set of priorities in game than any other platform. The only other turret(s) that might have such unique paradigm are freeze and firebird, and that is again the unique manner of engagement, and the perils involved in that method of combat. The only place rank plays a real role is wealth and available equipment, this I WILL concede. Benny's buy stuff, we all know that, so longer you play, the more money you got (or you buy for real), and of course somethings ARE NOT available until later ranks, thus yes, M2 is not within my purview yet. Other than that though, shafts are better players on the whole than most average players, at least into the ranks I am, if they standardize on that platform. Yep, you heard me, auto aim is for chumps, sorry, truth hurts. We gotta stop, aim, charge, loose a shot, lots of moving parts in our game play, so shafts are a completely different beast, complicated even at times when making decisions in the moment. Arcade shooting is also an art, given the reload times. So the point here is that if a shaft says it is "frustrated" there is good reason for it, and not because it can't compare to the opposition, but rather there are real factors at play that need to be addressed in terms of game dynamic, solutions we need to come up with.

 

Your suggestions are appreciated, but don't be so quick to push people around into rankings, I have seen plenty of higher ranked players whose sack lunch I stole, ate, and regurgitated back on them, over and over, in a single game. I have also had battles where it was all I could do to defend myself at times by lower ranked aggressors that understood how to exploit my platform's weaknesses. Rank only counts in the beginning and much later on down the ladder, but I find in the middle its anyone's game in terms of simple rank matching.

 

 

But for this, shafters at least have to have avarage knowledge and ability and equipment.

One avarage-gppd shafter can prevent 3 newbie shafters easily, and still can help their teammaates.

A shafter who just trying to block other shafters can be successful.

 

This is extremely rare to find 3 avarage-good shafters on one team. But once... not that hard

In this game ,the shafts ruled the roost (they were the important defenders) thus all my focus was on getting rid of them. Little crossed the map that wasn't being hammered by shafts. IF they made it at all, they were so beat up that any tank in the base to dispatch them easily. These guys were very good shafts too, and while I agree most shafts are not very good, comparatively speaking, ESPECIALLY vs other shafts, even the bad ones at my rank can do enough damage to stop some flag rushes.

 

Also, I hate drugs, so I'm a little at a disadvantage most of the time.

[Ramarrone 8]

Hell, i tried my shaft after a couple of weeks, it's still out of order ...

Will it be ever fixed???

[kayitsiz 621]

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P

By the way I didn't use drug.

[Kid95 67]

I'm waiting for Tanki's birthday now. Once that comes by I'll get my m2 shaft. No more struggling with defense, although I've learnt to think better using an m1 against tougher opponents like m2 vikings and hunters

[Amagi 1,728]

I'm waiting for Tanki's birthday now. Once that comes by I'll get my m2 shaft. No more struggling with defense, although I've learnt to think better using an m1 against tougher opponents like m2 vikings and hunters

Great choice mate, M2 Shaft is a very big improvement from M1.

[NewbieCake 3,067]

Great choice mate, M2 Shaft is a very big improvement from M1.

M2 Shaft on Major = pure pwnage