Let's Discuss Shaft!

[wolverine848 13,097]

25 minutes ago, Potdindy said:

Alright lets get off this conversation and have the hornet vs wasp convesation instead.

I do think hornet has the best OD in the game, that being said, I am beginning to think that with shaft, the two hulls are very even, and here are my reasons:

Hornet's OD works best when facing a lot of protection...shaft typically doesnt face a lot, especially at lower ranks.

Hornet's OD works best when you can deal tons of damage quickly, like with Fire up close or gauss...Shaft might get some easy 1shot kills but its oveall damage is a lot lower over time than other turrets. Vulcan for example, does way more damage to a clump of tanks under a dome, than shaft.

I like wasp's handling better. It is smaller, and moves better. Others may disagree.

Wasp's bomb is kinda noob but can be useful in battles where enemies are clustered.

Feel free to disagree. Facing a hornet shaft with its OD active is scary, so I'm acknowledging that both are solid 

Yeah, except for RFM, shaft users don't tend to move around a lot.  So the hornet OD is probably somewhat wasted on all but the RFM shafts.

As for hornet, unless you have a map for ambushing, I don't find it's OD so great for close-up confrontations.  Keeping distance allows it to survive longer and make better use of those 20 seconds.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

2 hours ago, Det87 said:

Well it is and it isn't. If you wanna achieve things much higher than the general population you gotta think that's it's possible. If you think you're better, you're more likely to train harder, because it's gives you purpose and fullfillment. If you don't think so, then why bother? And most people like that, they kind of stop.

I may have quite an ego myself, but I don't show it to the public because it is unnecessary, unneeded and unwanted. And having too much ego could make people go around causing fights, which is not what anyone wants.

2 hours ago, Det87 said:

When you grow older bro you'll notice that ain't really a good diss. It works for people your age, possibly, not really at anyone much older.

Not really a diss, it's more like a judgement of age based on how you act. And right now you're acting like a 7 year old when you shrug off everyone else's opinions.

 

Also forcing people to use titan shaft is like me wanting my teammates to use Viking isida. Not everyone wants to be a healer just like not everyone wants to be a sniper. It's just one of the things you have to deal with.

[Det87 18]

13 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

Not really a diss, it's more like a judgement of age based on how you act. And right now you're acting like a 7 year old when you shrug off everyone else's opinions.

I do shrug off that opinion. I don't really care about your opinion. 

13 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

Also forcing people to use titan shaft is like me wanting my teammates to use Viking isida. Not everyone wants to be a healer just like not everyone wants to be a sniper. It's just one of the things you have to deal with.

Well, not really. Forcing people to use my set would make it a lot more challenging for me.

[Det87 18]

1 hour ago, Given said:

Inferiority of other combos in your opinion. If you can't play skillfully using equipment that people do wonders with, then that's neither your nor their fault. We all play for fun, doesn't matter if one takes the difficult route (such as LCs) or the easy one to get satisfaction. 

This has been my experience since 2014, in a variety of rank ranges and on different accounts. Many times I was like "meh, that guy on my team is a complete noob for using Dictator + Twins M3 in Noise CTF". And then that guy would come first, being the person who played a major part in our team's victory by capping several flags.

Shrug. Not my experience.

1 hour ago, Given said:

I don't intend to offend you

No, that was nothing offensive, bro. Given has given nothing offensive.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

17 minutes ago, Det87 said:

1) I do shrug off that opinion. I don't really care about your opinion. 

2) Well, not really. Forcing people to use my set would make it a lot more challenging for me.

1) if you don't care about my opinion, then why did you reply? You obviously care, other wise you wouldn't have replied. Also I would love to see you say this to your boss (if you actually have a job) I bet he would fire you on the spot.

 

2) why can't you make your gameplay more challenging yourself? Just use a different setup.

[Det87 18]

2 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

1) if you don't care about my opinion, then why did you reply?

Same to you, good sir. 

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Also I would love to see you say this to your boss (if you actually have a job) I bet he would fire you on the spot.

You're not my boss? What am I missing, bro? Like, I'm not the president of your country either, or your dad... so... 

I have a job, but that's secondary with university still, you know.

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2) why can't you make your gameplay more challenging yourself? Just use a different setup.

Na. Ruins kd. Nub teams already make it medium challenging.

Edited February 24, 2020 by Det87

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

52 minutes ago, Det87 said:

1) Same to you, good sir. 

 

2) I have a job, but that's secondary with university still, you know.

3) Na. Ruins kd. Nub teams already make it medium challenging.

1) you actually do care about my opinion then.

2) I dare you to tell your boss that you don't care about their opinion. You'll see that that attitude isn't gonna get you very far in life.

3) but you claimed that you were "the best" at this game. Are you actually admitting that you are wrong for once? Or are you just too self centered to change it up a bit?

[Det87 18]

3 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

1) you actually do care about my opinion then.

If you say so. 

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2) I dare you to tell your boss that you don't care about their opinion. You'll see that that attitude isn't gonna get you very far in life.

That statement here still doesn't make any sense. 

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3) but you claimed that you were "the best" at this game. Are you actually admitting that you are wrong for once? Or are you just too self centered to change it up a bit?

Idk when I said I was the best lol. You're starting to bore me, cuz you're just too young and your attention span is too short.

Edited February 24, 2020 by Det87

[Potdindy 866]

I kinda get the feeling some of us are trying to have a profitable conversation and yet theres this dk measuring contest going on between. Would you two please move to pm? Pretty please?

[Towns 574]

You all know Shaft, the turret with the most abused alteration, Rapid-fire mode. Let's stop that and start trying other Shaft alts. Who's with me?

[Maf 32,314]

People say that light capacitors is more powerful.

[Potdindy 866]

1 hour ago, Maf said:

People say that light capacitors is more powerful.

Absolutely. RFM is like Hammer duplet....sometimes you get those surprise close range, youre dead, but I use LC with everything....wasp--titan.

RFM turns you into essentially smoky, while LC's allow you to play shaft as a long range turret.

I haven't been impressed with RFM compared to LC's

Edited March 3, 2020 by Potdindy

[Towns 574]

10 hours ago, Maf said:

People say that light capacitors is more powerful.

Yes, but it's not as abused and requires much more skill, because RFM is just turn your turret on a target, use DD (because Booster) and tap space bar 3 times really fast.

[Potdindy 866]

2 hours ago, Towns said:

Yes, but it's not as abused and requires much more skill, because RFM is just turn your turret on a target, use DD (because Booster) and tap space bar 3 times really fast.

Every turret becomes OP with booster. You cant really use a drone to say a turret is OP. RFM barely kills a medium hull if both have damage and armor activated...it is powerful, but so is sniping mode

[Michael828 817]

16 hours ago, Potdindy said:

Every turret becomes OP with booster. You cant really use a drone to say a turret is OP. RFM barely kills a medium hull if both have damage and armor activated...it is powerful, but so is sniping mode

But it cripples your enemy really fast, as well as being more dynamic than the other alts. 

If it's the most widely used alteration, then it's likely because the majority perceive it to be the best.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Heavy Capacitors is also so OP with Booster Drone LOL

[Towns 574]

1 hour ago, yellowghetto said:

Heavy Capacitors is also so OP with Booster Drone LOL

But who would prefer to wait 6 seconds for full charge and have a slow scope just to kill the JGR? I'd rather have a fast scope and to wait 2 seconds for a full charge to kill all the Russian bois and make them extra salty lol (in any mode but SJR and TJR)

Edited March 4, 2020 by Towns
People who use Heavy Capacitors are crazy IMO

[Det87 18]

By the way, Vulcan is now obviously best, but Rapid-Fire Shaft still comes close.

And duh, Titan is better than all the  hulls.

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

10 minutes ago, Det87 said:

By the way, Vulcan is now obviously best, but Rapid-Fire Shaft still comes close.

And duh, Titan is better than all the  hulls.

Thing is, everyone's entitled to their opinions, sure.

But I really, really don't remember anyone asking.

[Towns 574]

Help for all you Shafts out there ^

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Wow, the conversation here is really bad lately.

[ultraslavpapastalin 5]

Best maps for shafts pls

[E_polypterus 2,374]

17 hours ago, ultraslavpapastalin said:

Best maps for shafts pls

Serpuhov, Scope, Kungur, Skylark, Solikamsk, Skyscrapers and Highways are the best maps fer shaft imo. Of course there are a number of other maps which are good as well.

Edited April 1, 2020 by E_polypterus

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

Every MM map can work for it. The same can't be said for all PRO maps, however.

[ultraslavpapastalin 5]

1 hour ago, E_polypterus said:

Serpuhov, Scope, Kungur, Skylark, Solikamsk, Skyscrapers and Highways are the best maps fer shaft imo. Of course there are a number of other maps which are good as well.

Thanks!